US Air Force Engineer Charged With Sawing Down Flock Surveillance Cameras Receives Thousands of Dollars from Supporters Across the Country

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Town@lemmy.zip · 137 pts · 30d (6 replies)

I'm expecting laws soon that make damaging or destroying mass surveillance cameras an enhanced felony like terrorism.

holy_scroller@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 30d (2 replies)

No prosecutor wants to take that case to a jury.

DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Yes they do.

Same pool of citizens that voted for Trump and friends. They know how to stack a jury.

holy_scroller@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 29d

I don't think this is a partisan issue, but I do understand that Trumpism defies strongly help political beliefs.

Stormy@thelemmy.club · 20 pts · 30d (2 replies)
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4am@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 30d

That’s not a good idea

Batmorous@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 30d

Its not a good idea and they would need to fear ever trying that more than they are now

theherk@lemmy.world · 133 pts · 30d

Aim high, buddy. We salute you.

fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 74 pts · 30d

Free Jeffrey Sovern

nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 56 pts · 30d

Be careful, hes a hero.

Tim_Bisley@piefed.social · 47 pts · 30d (1 reply)

Man the air force is cooking lately.

halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 35 pts · 30d

The Air Force is the military branch with minimum requirements for mental capabilities, even if not officially. Pilots and aircraft mechanics are not front line fodder. And until the Space Force came along, they handled most of the stuff related to managing space as well.

The Army and Marines will basically take anyone breathing. And the Navy is a bit of a mix, just gotta be a little bit gay since you're gonna be stuck on a boat for months at a time with a bunch of seamen.

Is it really surprising that it's the Air Force that would have the servicemen that can read, comprehend, and act against all this obvious bullshit?

oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 45 pts · 30d (23 replies)

Everybody should take down all of them.

Almost willing to say hang out there for the guy to come replace it and beat him just shy of disablement.

That's a little severe, but stupidity should be a crime. And with a job like that you're either a bad guy or a stupid good guy. Or if your forced to work there somehow, you should be dismantling it from within.

trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 13 pts · 30d

Around here they made a schedule to install them in the dead of night, like 1 or 2am. It was maddening watching them pop up.

1984@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 29d (3 replies)

I think you should be happy that stupidity isn't a crime since your comment is very stupid.

Hurting the guy who installs a camera is absolutely the worst idea I've ever heard to fight flock surveillance.

Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 28d (2 replies)

As a guy that installs cameras I'm not against it

Zoot@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Yeah for real, camera install techs have plenty of options. I've left plenty of corporate lpw voltage companies because they're shit towards the customer. Generally mom an pop pay better anyway!

Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 27d

Yup

I'll be fucked if I push products that spy on people to my customers.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 29d (15 replies)
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Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 29d (13 replies)

The cops who beat peaceful protesters are also (willing) pawns in the same game. Being a pawn doesn't absolve you of your culpability and "I was just following orders" isn't a defence.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 29d (12 replies)
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nlgranger@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 29d (4 replies)

I'm not capable of violence myself so I won't pretend to support it. That being said, there is a whole process of dilution of responsibilities to make unacceptable decisions happen, if everyone plays nice and by the rules, nothing will happen. Past struggles have never been overcome peacefully.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 29d (3 replies)
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slag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 29d (2 replies)

I personally vote for being polite and cordial. Patiently wait for them to finish, then swat the camera right back down with a baseball bat.

Smile, then offer them the baseball bat and invite them to take a swing.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 29d
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CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d

I'm picturing someone standing down the street, watching the camera being installed, tubing cutter or sawzall in hand...

Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 29d (6 replies)

Sure, one beats protestors, the other helps them figure out who to beat.

At this point, you're arguing which turd stinks less, when they all smell like shit.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 29d (5 replies)
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oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 28d (4 replies)

And how many lives get directly fucked because of each individual camera?

Would you not shoot a Nazi installing miniguns around the top of the white house? Sure, there's "being forced into the machine", but actively settng up their weapons is definitely at least one step too far.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -2 pts · 28d
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decolo@piefed.social · 3 pts · 29d

No more or less than your average palantir or meta employee

bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 29d

Almost willing to say hang out there for the guy to come replace it and beat him just shy of disablement.

I'd try doxing them and damaging their vehicles first. Contractors will just stop taking those jobs.

No need to get violent until Flock employees are forced to to come out and do it themselves..

0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 30d

Almost willing to say hang out there for the guy to come replace it and beat him just shy of disablement.

That's gross.

RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 35 pts · 30d (2 replies)

Where can I donate?

Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 37 pts · 30d
TIEPilot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 29d

Came here to say the same, I'm more than happy to help!

LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 29d
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Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 28d

American Patriot and freedom fighter.

Sirdubdee@piefed.social · 7 pts · 28d

I’m pretty sure that guy was teaching me jury nullification on those days. Couldn’t be him.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 29d

Also Ring doorbells

P1k1e@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d

Hell yea!

Stormy@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 30d
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