Bikes can typically go further than horses in a days travel. Unless you have a lot of horses to switch through and have them positioned along your route.
Maybe the info I found online is wrong but looks like a horse and rider can go about 50km a day. Going by Google maps that is around 3 hours by bike and their times I find are not too far off a casual bike ride for someone who doesn't do any racing training.
If you have a racing bike and use it frequently then then you could probably cut it down to easily under 2 hours.
If you go from not biking to biking 50km good luck with not being able to walk the next few days.
Assuming you even make it that.
It's a possible distance yes, but not if you're not used to it.
Also Google isn't really reliable like that. If you input a 200km journey into Google it estimates 48 hours. Which is insane. 40 km a day is considered a fairly good backpacking pace. That would in reality take nearly 5 days to make that walk.
Google estimates average speed while doing an activity, not what is feasible for a long duration
Here up to 3 miles each way is considered a reasonable distance for kids over the age of 8 to walk or cycle to school - which comes to just under 50km in total over 5 days. Above that distance assistance can be offered by the local government.
To give another point of data.
People walking pilgrimages like El Camino de Santiago de Compostela routinely walk 23 km (14 miles) per day for multiple weeks. And those are people in all kind of shapes and ages, including slow walking grandparents. Trained people can do twice more.
Humans are really good at long distance, not just athlets. Modern life made us forget about it and anything longer than 5 km sounds impressive.
Exactly, a day is a long time. You can take breaks along the way and don't have to push yourself for speed. When I was in my teens the local scout group often went to the next town over, about a 20km round trip. No one trained for it, some people may have been a little tired by the end of it but not excessively so and it was fun.
Similar trips done both walking and cycling, of course cycling it takes much less time. Even our school ran a bike trip at the end of the year, wish I measured the distance but certainly 10s of km as it was pretty much a full school day riding. Minus maybe an hour at the start of the day to check over bikes and a bit for lunch.
...you say that and yet I randomly switched bus to bike to ride to work and nothing happened except tired legs. And I was doing 63km weekly.
3 hours to go 50 km is bullshit for someone who didn't train tho. In 4 hours, maybe. Person that isn't used to biking will need more frequent breaks and will travel at lower speed.
3 hours is what Google maps suggested. For that distance then yeah maybe first time riding it will take a bit longer. Also type of bike would influence it a fair bit too.
My current bike commute is 80km a week and I just started doing it when getting the job because it isn't that far.
36 Comments
MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de · 42 pts · 67d
Ukraine about to have to deal with cavalry charges.
oce@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 67d
Both sides share history about that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 23 pts · 67d
How shit are your roads if you are turning to horses rather than bikes?
Edit - looks like they are actually using both
oce@jlai.lu · 29 pts · 67d
They don't have air anymore to inflate the wheels. Putin requisitioned all of it for his grandchild's air guitar practice.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 67d
Longer distances…? Why not walk and save the money than?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 67d
Bikes can typically go further than horses in a days travel. Unless you have a lot of horses to switch through and have them positioned along your route.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
You would have to be in incredible shape for that.
For the vast majority of people, a horse would be able to take them further than they could themselves on a bike.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 66d
Maybe the info I found online is wrong but looks like a horse and rider can go about 50km a day. Going by Google maps that is around 3 hours by bike and their times I find are not too far off a casual bike ride for someone who doesn't do any racing training.
If you have a racing bike and use it frequently then then you could probably cut it down to easily under 2 hours.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 66d
If you go from not biking to biking 50km good luck with not being able to walk the next few days.
Assuming you even make it that.
It's a possible distance yes, but not if you're not used to it.
Also Google isn't really reliable like that. If you input a 200km journey into Google it estimates 48 hours. Which is insane. 40 km a day is considered a fairly good backpacking pace. That would in reality take nearly 5 days to make that walk.
Google estimates average speed while doing an activity, not what is feasible for a long duration
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 66d
I suspect the same could be said about horse riding for an entire day.
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 66d
I think it's more a question of terrain and load.
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 66d
And base level fitness.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 66d
For some people that seems to be zero...
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
What? It’s recommended you don’t go more than 3-5 miles on your first few bike outings until you’re capable of going longer.
Those lengths you’re suggesting requires training like marathons.
People train to travel 50km by bike in a week, let alone a day or a single outing.
Maybe you’re thinking of ecycles and other non manual bikes?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 66d
Training to cycle 50km in a week? Lol wtf.
Here up to 3 miles each way is considered a reasonable distance for kids over the age of 8 to walk or cycle to school - which comes to just under 50km in total over 5 days. Above that distance assistance can be offered by the local government.
For me it was more like 30-40km from 11 onwards.
oce@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 66d
To give another point of data.
People walking pilgrimages like El Camino de Santiago de Compostela routinely walk 23 km (14 miles) per day for multiple weeks. And those are people in all kind of shapes and ages, including slow walking grandparents. Trained people can do twice more.
Humans are really good at long distance, not just athlets. Modern life made us forget about it and anything longer than 5 km sounds impressive.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 66d
Exactly, a day is a long time. You can take breaks along the way and don't have to push yourself for speed. When I was in my teens the local scout group often went to the next town over, about a 20km round trip. No one trained for it, some people may have been a little tired by the end of it but not excessively so and it was fun.
Similar trips done both walking and cycling, of course cycling it takes much less time. Even our school ran a bike trip at the end of the year, wish I measured the distance but certainly 10s of km as it was pretty much a full school day riding. Minus maybe an hour at the start of the day to check over bikes and a bit for lunch.
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
...you say that and yet I randomly switched bus to bike to ride to work and nothing happened except tired legs. And I was doing 63km weekly.
3 hours to go 50 km is bullshit for someone who didn't train tho. In 4 hours, maybe. Person that isn't used to biking will need more frequent breaks and will travel at lower speed.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 66d
3 hours is what Google maps suggested. For that distance then yeah maybe first time riding it will take a bit longer. Also type of bike would influence it a fair bit too.
My current bike commute is 80km a week and I just started doing it when getting the job because it isn't that far.
PagPag@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
Well the roads will be shit afterwards regardless.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 66d
Well, they are covered in more horse shit than before
thebasementcakes@leminal.space · 10 pts · 67d
Retail horses
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 67d
Why? What's wrong with their current tails?
merc@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 66d
Yeah... what kind of retailer sells horses?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 66d
a horse farm? breeder?
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 66d
Is that a retailer?
Asafum@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 67d
Perfect! Now we just need Big Horse to lobby the government to protect their profits and we can reduce gasoline usage!
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 66d
The other benefit of a horse over a car is if things get bad enough you still have a week's worth of protein for your family.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 66d
In process of being sent back to the stone age through its own stupid actions.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 66d
Stone Age, you say?
UPGRADE says them.
orenj@leminal.space · 3 pts · 66d
Oh, they see horse sales. Not Sea horse sales. Got it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 66d
or RIVER horse,aka hippos.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 66d
"...in othe news, the Irish hip-hop duo the Rubberbandits are enjoying a surge of popularity - from a rather unexpected place!"
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 66d
why not mules, they are better at transporting.