Johnson Says Pentagon Needs More Money for ‘Fighting Communism on Our Own Shores’

https://www.commondreams.org/news/johnson-us-military-communism

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spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 51 pts · 37d (12 replies)

Trying to deploy the U.S. military "on our own shores" against lawful speech and activity is blatantly illegal.

The U.S. Posse Comitatus Act:

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus (a group of people who are mobilized by the sheriff to suppress lawlessness in the county) or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

You'd expect a sitting congressman to know the law (or at least research it) before spouting this kind of BS. But who am I kidding? Johnson is a Republican who is not subject to the Constitution or the laws that the rest of us must follow.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 37d

A fine and a maximum of two years in jail for what has to be one of the most egregiously tyrannical actions one could take. Assuming the law is ever actually applied.

What a joke this country is.

Heikki2@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 37d (2 replies)

Its doesn't matter if you site it for them. They cant/won't read it. They are too far gone at this point to realize they are wrong

core@leminal.space · 10 pts · 37d

They don't care about wrong or right, just what they can get away with

Janx@piefed.social · 1 pts · 36d

Calling out blatant illegality and corruption like this is still important. Not because the MAGA cult is reachable, it's for everyone else. History has shown us they won't always be in power and it's vital to document this shit...

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 3 pts · 37d (6 replies)

Someone slept for a years.

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 37d (5 replies)

You think deploying troops because you don't like someone's political beliefs is the same thing, do you?

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 0 pts · 37d (4 replies)

Did you read the article?

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 36d (3 replies)

You don't seem to understand what plausible deniability is. This is the from second paragraph:

Roughly 700 active-duty Marines were deployed into Los Angeles on Monday, June 9th, 2025, under orders from President Trump, following days of unrest triggered by federal immigration raids.

Sending troops because there are "commies among us" is not the same thing.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · -1 pts · 36d (2 replies)

Yikes. And he asked Congress & Cali’s Governor’s permission, right?

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 36d (1 reply)

I prefer adult engagement.

And yet your every comment is absolutely brimming with snark and condescension. I prefer adult engagement too and that means not wasting any more time on you.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · -1 pts · 36d

I’ll read this as “I excuse Trump’s illegal deployment of Marines on a state that never requested help, therefore Speaker Johnson’s request for an increased military budget is hereby excusable following days of unrest triggered by Communists” and carry on.

ContactClosure@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 36d

Emil Bove is the guy that suggested they simply not follow the courts and judges. Remember his name.

llamapocalypse@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 37d (1 reply)

Is the communism in the room with us right now?

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 36d

There are some good orgs like the Party for Socialism and Liberation that are gaining in popularity, and thus have begun being targeted by the state.

ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 37d

Cmon cowards, nuke the communism

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 37d

.ml got them shook

apftwb@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 36d (2 replies)

Red Scare... Again... For the third time.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 5 pts · 36d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d

A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

Two things result from this fact:

  1. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power.

  2. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Communism with a manifesto of the party itself.

To this end, Communists of various nationalities have assembled in London and sketched the following manifesto, to be published in the English, French, German, Italian, Flemish and Danish languages.

dan69@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 37d (2 replies)

Where in the hell is this communism in my neighborhood?? I haven’t even seen one thing about communism, the closest I’ve seen are these stupid bus and train stops and sub safe bike lanes (paint)..

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 36d

Some orgs like The Party for Socialism and Liberation have been doing great work, like sending a flotilla of aid to Cuba, and as such have begun being targeted by the state.

matlag@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d

Public transportation is communism.

Bike lanes are woke, and wokeness is communism!

And anything serving the public general interest should be investigated for possible sympathy for communism.

MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 37d

Anything that doesn't support perverted capitalism is now communism, by their definitions.

tortina_original@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 37d

Oh, cute.

You know who else liked to use "enemy within" phrase?

BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 36d (1 reply)

That little Nazi Bottom just admitted he wants to use the military against our own citizens.

I hope his constituents tie him to the goalposts and leave him there all weekend.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 36d

hes lucky where hes at because KEVIN was so flip floppy in the house.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 37d (2 replies)

doing anything to convince boomers, and CUBANS, and other south americans to keep voting for them.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d

and CUBANS

You misspelled Guasanos.

BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d

Just one more term bro!

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 37d (8 replies)

Two words he seems to have missed in his education: Posse Commitatus.

Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 37d (7 replies)

Are you hoping the military itself enforces that? Or the cops who already let ice murder people in the streets? Or what? McDonald's employees?

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 37d (6 replies)

That is the bis American problem. You've got mostly good laws, but nobody seems to follow them anymore. A kind of anarchy, but from the top instead from the bottom.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d (1 reply)

A lot of it has to do with the corrupt ass supreme court shitting on the constitution so they can enrich the guys buying them RVs.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d

Yes, SCOTUS is a problem here. Having executive, legislation and jurisdiction trying to burn the state down is a real issue. I'm amazed that the US still has some recognizable democratic elements, despite all those attacks on it.

ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 36d (2 replies)

You've got mostly good laws

No. No we do not. I mean for Hell's sake we incarcerate way now individuals per capita than any other nation in the planet.

Or so called justice system is fucking horseshit.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d (1 reply)

I'm not talking about application. But the ideas behind them are OK. And I'm amazed that democracy is still not totally broken, despite the efforts of your current government and the spinelessness of the opposition.

ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 36d

No.

The ideas behind them involved slavery and genocide. Otherwise known as "colonial settler" behavior.

We have always been the baddies.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 36d

Laws anywhere apply only as far as they benefit the ruling class, be that class the capitalists or the workers. That's the function of a state.

HubertManne@piefed.social · 7 pts · 37d (1 reply)

this country is the constitution. the internal enemies that need to be dealt with are the ones violating and subverting the constitution. period.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 36d

this country is the constitution

reads the Constitution

I would fucking hope not. We can do better.

AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 36d

Something something tankies bad

Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 37d (2 replies)

This is to get more money to fight Iran right

WitchKnight@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 37d

$5 it's either forever war or trans people

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 37d

to distract from epstein files. at the same time jean e caroll been in the news.

ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 37d

Mike McCarthy showing his true stripes. And stars.

Triumph@fedia.io · 4 pts · 37d

Fight me.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 37d (1 reply)

The american citizens need communism. They are dying and need help. Regardless of what the giant capitalists think, communism is good. Democratic socialism is better. They are both mostly the same with regard to helping citizens and not businesses, even though words like "ideology" get in the way so everyone can keep debating while those giant capitalists continue to scrape away at your own bottom line.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 36d

sadly its been largely qaushed during the red scare, by right wing propaganda for decades.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d

"Mostly the 'democratic' part must be criminalized"

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 36d

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d

Wonder how few democrats will vote against.

yonderbarn@lazysoci.al · 2 pts · 37d

Bring on the revolution

humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 36d

Political lesson for the day:

Naziism is an establishment philosophy that is primarily/near exclusively devoted to anti-communism as a path to maximizing Oligarchist/Corporatist supremacism. Ethnic supremacist hate is just a populist veil to provide oligarchist power maximization. Nazis won ww2. Reagan shifted the US to open devotion to voodoo nazi economic theory. Trickle down economic theory as a "pro labour" facade to naziism, because giving everything to oligarchs will incentivize them to buy a blowjob from you plebs.

The Nazi extremism of current GOP is far higher than 1930s Germany. It mixes Zionazi supremacist rule over Americans, and instead of targetting non-existant Marxism (labour supremacism) political force, they demonize any restraint to their fascism.

Democracy permits the power to seize tratorous zionazi supremacist supporters assets (media, military, energy). Not under the pretext of marxism, but on the pretext of treasonous theft of prosperity and safety, in addition to national sustainability.