Incels deserve to be more celebrated. If they overcome their quirks they become a better person who is more likely to show empathy. If they remain they do us all a favor by not creating any offspring.
I keep seeing people try to rehab the word Incel online as a neutral term and I don't understand it. It's come to mean violent misogynist. Blablabla, it was originally coined by a woman, WE KNOW.
If you're just a guy who isn't a misogynist and is struggling to find a person to date, you'd say you're currently single and looking, but it's tough out there. Something like that. Hell, I doubt even devout terminally online incels actually self-identity as incels to people IRL because they know exactly what that word means to people should they recognize it.
Most of the time once someone has declared themselves a incel theyve committed to never changing their behavior. That is the inherent toxicity of it. If you cant self reflect and make changes then the damage is self inflicted.
Id say someone who is just generally unattractive and doesnt actually care about sex wont go as far to identify with incels.
Thanks for summarizing the past few years for me 🤣 (stopped following the news and the world around me a few years ago so I didn't realize what the word had come to mean. Oh boi.)
They're still people. When you fight someone acting like a terrible person, you fight for them. You make sure they know that their behavior is unacceptable, and that their way of thinking isn't doing them any favors. You do this not just because you're right, but because they need to hear it in order to have any chance of changing themselves for the better. Incels deserve to be fought because they deserve to be rehabilitated. Reinforcing behavior is how you solidify it, not change it; you have to challenge someone to see things differently for them to learn that there's another way.
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EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app · 20 pts · 40d
I keep seeing people try to rehab the word Incel online as a neutral term and I don't understand it. It's come to mean violent misogynist. Blablabla, it was originally coined by a woman, WE KNOW.
If you're just a guy who isn't a misogynist and is struggling to find a person to date, you'd say you're currently single and looking, but it's tough out there. Something like that. Hell, I doubt even devout terminally online incels actually self-identity as incels to people IRL because they know exactly what that word means to people should they recognize it.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 40d
Most of the time once someone has declared themselves a incel theyve committed to never changing their behavior. That is the inherent toxicity of it. If you cant self reflect and make changes then the damage is self inflicted.
Id say someone who is just generally unattractive and doesnt actually care about sex wont go as far to identify with incels.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 40d
Thanks for summarizing the past few years for me 🤣 (stopped following the news and the world around me a few years ago so I didn't realize what the word had come to mean. Oh boi.)
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 40d
The word has meant that for like a decade now did you live under a rock?
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 40d
I just checked, but all I could find is that nobody likes you :(
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 40d
Good for them. The feeling is mutual.
Suru@mander.xyz · 15 pts · 40d
I don't think reformed incels are particularly more likely to show empathy to anyone than your average non-incel.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 40d
I think they just meant better than they used to be, not better than average.
Suru@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 40d
That's fair. Although, I don't think getting laid necessarily makes people more empathetic either.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
I don't think that's what they are saying either.
A rehabbed incel would develop empathy and THEN they might have a chance at getting laid.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 40d
Why would you want to reinforce a negative personality trait?
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 40d
I've known lots of negative personality traits.. most of them dont take care of themselves like this one.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 8 pts · 40d
They're still people. When you fight someone acting like a terrible person, you fight for them. You make sure they know that their behavior is unacceptable, and that their way of thinking isn't doing them any favors. You do this not just because you're right, but because they need to hear it in order to have any chance of changing themselves for the better. Incels deserve to be fought because they deserve to be rehabilitated. Reinforcing behavior is how you solidify it, not change it; you have to challenge someone to see things differently for them to learn that there's another way.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 40d
One thing i honestly like about this site is that we don't talk about "incels" much.
theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
Jokes like this vastly overestimate how much it matters whether an unpleasant person reproduces.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 40d
One less is one less
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 40d
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