Since most things are kept secret, I assume the worst, meaning that the US gains full unlimited read access to databases and can pull data as they like, including from those people who do not even want to visit the US. Therefore everyone is affected.
Unnecesary, you need a visa/permit to travel to the UK too. I don't see the issue in filling a shitty form and providing ID pictures when the alternative is compromising the whole privacy of a country giving them unrestricted access to biometric data and more.
If the price of visa free travel is giving a foreign government access to Europeans’ biometric data, then it’s a bad deal: The EU lectures the world about privacy and digital sovereignty, yet too often folds when Washington asks for another exception!
Some people (those stupid enough to visit the US) getting at least something (visa-free access) out of it is actually an incredible good deal.
The expected EU move would be to just give away all our data without getting anything over some ridiculous pretense because our corrupt politicians got some small favors from a lobbyist.
No, you have to understand, if you're a company and, for reasons, you need to send 500 people to the US every month, it's so tedious to apply for visa. Think of the economy u guise. /s
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MattR@feddit.org · 59 pts · 37d
Since most things are kept secret, I assume the worst, meaning that the US gains full unlimited read access to databases and can pull data as they like, including from those people who do not even want to visit the US. Therefore everyone is affected.
RiQuY@lemmy.zip · 46 pts · 37d
Unnecesary, you need a visa/permit to travel to the UK too. I don't see the issue in filling a shitty form and providing ID pictures when the alternative is compromising the whole privacy of a country giving them unrestricted access to biometric data and more.
eicker@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 37d
If the price of visa free travel is giving a foreign government access to Europeans’ biometric data, then it’s a bad deal: The EU lectures the world about privacy and digital sovereignty, yet too often folds when Washington asks for another exception!
Ooops@feddit.org · 6 pts · 37d
Some people (those stupid enough to visit the US) getting at least something (visa-free access) out of it is actually an incredible good deal.
The expected EU move would be to just give away all our data without getting anything over some ridiculous pretense because our corrupt politicians got some small favors from a lobbyist.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 37d
Simple: stop traveling to the USA.
gabelstapler@feddit.org · 22 pts · 37d
Are you sure that you data is only transferred to the US if you're travelling to the US? I wouldn't be so sure...
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 36d
Thiel wants that data and is already breaking the law to get it. I'm sure there's corruption somewhere in the EU he can bribe for it.
BigShammy80@feddit.org · 3 pts · 36d
If anything, this is definitly true!
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 37d
Correct. Visa doesn’t guarantee safe stay anyway.
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 15 pts · 37d
No, you have to understand, if you're a company and, for reasons, you need to send 500 people to the US every month, it's so tedious to apply for visa. Think of the economy u guise. /s
botbot@feddit.org · 6 pts · 37d
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 1 pts · 37d
Beats me but our government seems to think it's a bad idea to anger the King in Orange.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 37d
Sad to see that most European countries continue to act like vassal states.