The US Regime has decided that the executive branch has the power to change the laws on who is eligible for brithright citizenship via executive order (08/06/26)
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RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 21d
Oh yay, people who will be born illegally and have no legal status in any country. Basically slaves.
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 21d
huh, I wonder if they will decide to revoke citizenship for Native Americans like they seemed to be fine with when this was being argued before the court?
think of all that Indian owned land that would be up for grabs... just sitting there, on top of unexploited mineral deposits and water rights claims... just waiting to be confiscated.
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 21d
On the otherhand, I've always wanted to arm natives against invaders I guess.
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 21d
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 21d
Bless those Patriots.
PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au · 6 pts · 21d
No, no. Stateless. Different.
Not treated any better, but the labor value extraction isn't as explicit!
Death to all States.
morgan_423@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 21d
Wait, didn't SCOTUS shoot this down? Like, literally a month ago?
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 21d
They did, but the branch charged with enforcing the laws is basically saying fuck the law.
searabbit@piefed.social · 12 pts · 21d
Straight from the Andrew Jackson playbook on genocide.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 21d
what a sentence. It has come to this.
PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au · 7 pts · 21d
Who cares?
Laws are about what we accept. They're not magic spells passed down by fucking gandalf. You get used to thugs with guns telling you what the rules are, the rules are what the thugs with guns say they are.
Zier@fedia.io · 25 pts · 21d
Illegal shadow president Miller wrote that EO because he is a racist scumbag.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 21d
Reading through the executive order I see three categories of people it's trying to affect.
"Terrorists". This is the category I expect to be used first, and as such is the one I expect to get struck down first.
Diplomats and other individuals with diplomatic immunity. This one frankly I assumed already didn't get birthright citizenship, as my reading of the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause was that it was these people it was excluding.
"Birth Tourists". This is the one that I have been exposed to the most fearmongering about. To be frank I am skeptical it happens often enough to matter, and the government would probably fare better simply denying access to the country anyone pregnant enough for it to come up. I also expect this part of the order to be struck down the moment an attempt is made to apply it.
That's all assuming the order doesn't get suspended and subsequently struck down by the courts immediately, which is unlikely.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 21d
The diplomats one is kinda insane. It says if EITHER parent works for a foreign government, including consulates. So if there was a man who worked at one, had a baby with an American woman, the baby wouldn't have citizenship. Potentially there could be an American single mom, with a child born in America, and she would be harboring an illegal alien. All without leaving America once.
booly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 21d
But if one of the parents has American citizenship, they would have the right to American citizenship through their parentage, and the executive order only purports to apply to children for whom neither parent has US citizenship.
It would need to be a pretty narrow set of circumstances, and it would still be unconstitutional if applied to a child for whom one of the two parents could have had a child with birthright citizenship.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 21d
It says EITHER PARENT on multiple occasions.
(b) either parent of that person is a foreign government employee, defined to include:
(ii) persons employed by a foreign embassy or consulate who are nationals of that foreign country;
booly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 16d
You're quoting the subsections but the section 2 as a whole, at the top, says:
It's a boolean "and," so in order for those provisions you've quoted to apply, the person must also not have a citizen parent.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 21d
Seriously, that there's wave after wave of pregnant women entering the US just to give birth, to create American Babies, then leave again? These poeople really have worms in their brains.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 21d
He’ll lose this one too.
Thrickles@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 21d
With Antifa designated as a terrorist organization, does that also fall under sec 2(a) of this EO?
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19d
Yep. That's the framework they're going for, anyone left of Hitler is "antifa", and "antifa" can be jailed or executed or shipped overseas all without trial, their families destroyed and their possessions stolen by the thugs doing the "enforcement", right down to their shoes and the teeth from their mouths.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 21d
Executive Order
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A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 21d
The first sentence is already rotten. No single person in a state of law should have that much power.
It's probably standard verbiage since even before the Patriot Act, but I still don't like it.
I was hoping I could get the tl;dr from the text, because I simply cannot listen to his voice rn, but I can't read this shit either.
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 21d
Damn those babies acting as agents of foreign governments!
ulkesh@piefed.social · 2 pts · 21d
Oh look! Two micropenises in a room together.
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
duckCityComplex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19d
Better explain it to him again, Tim... Looks like he nodded off there.