Blame game as Brussels builds ‘Europe’s largest frying pan’ instead of shady square
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/09/blame-brussels-eu-quarter-schuman-square
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/09/blame-brussels-eu-quarter-schuman-square
27 Comments
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 25d
Even the original vision was still a frying pan, only with a green egg.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 25d
it_depends_man@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 25d
It is infinitely embarrassing that a simple roof as a shade is supposed to cost 13 million € or 5 million €.
Who is kidding themselves here.
Good on the Brussels local government for not allocating those funds.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
It would not have been a simple roof, but yes, it should have been built.
Green spaces and places to relax socially are always a good thing.
it_depends_man@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
I agree on the green and social places. The thing I don't understand and where we disagree, is why everything always has to be such a dick measuring contest.
13 million Euros?! 13 MILLION Euros?
Not for a mansion, but for some... thing that's supposed to nothing but block a little sun in the summer?!
schnapsman@feddit.org · 7 pts · 25d
It's a lot of money for sure, but it doesn't strike me as way off the mark given the size. As a fun exercise, check how much it costs to repave a street in your hometown and make sure you're sitting down first.
nomecks@lemmy.wtf · 6 pts · 25d
Sounds like it's time to drill a bunch of holes and plant a bunch of trees.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 24d
It was always going to be a complex project: majestic tall trees were out of the question as the square sits over an underground car tunnel, railway and metro station, and a maze of gas and water pipelines.
leagman1@feddit.org · 1 pts · 24d
What about raised beds for trees?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 24d
That was the plan. Someone pasted a picture. You're not going to get big trees by planting them in pots. If they can't develop roots they simply will not grow very big.
leagman1@feddit.org · 1 pts · 24d
What if the bed is really big or something
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 24d
If you would put a 5m tall bed there people on the street level would simply stand next to a 5m wall with a tree on top. That would be pretty terrible.
leagman1@feddit.org · 2 pts · 23d
Agreed
john_lemmy@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 25d
Fucking pivot then. The fancy green roof wasn't built, there are still many ways to add benches and, more importantly, soil, trees and bushes. Throw some water fountains while you're at it. The alternative is a sad, inhospitable place.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 24d
Jesus, how hard is it to not cover something with concrete, damn!
Folstar@lemmus.org · 5 pts · 25d
I would have made a giant web of sunshades with the flags of all member nations. Then again, at the cost of some poles and large sunshades plus labor, what would we do with the other 12 million euros?
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 24d
Invest in a fund to pay for 50 years of quarterly flag replacement.
Folstar@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 24d
Investing in future maintenance is a good idea. Though, do you say quarterly because you expect nations to start getting creative with their flags or because you don't know how long modern sunshades last? The park near my house has had the same cutesy shade over the playground for a decade and it looks fine.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 24d
Its one of the main protest spaces in Brussels. Lots of poles are impractical.
atro_city@fedia.io · 4 pts · 25d
They don't even have to plant trees, they can put grass on the ground and give space for vines. I heard khudzu grows like weed 😉
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 24d
Addressed in the article. Its one of the main protest spaces in Brussels. It would turn to muddy shit quickly.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 24d
Ah okay, so concrete everywhere it is, then!
Why even use concrete for walk ways? It looks god awful, cracks and breaks within months, repairs are always ugly as fuck, it is a horrible material for that. At least use street stones or tiles, you can make awesome designs with it. It looks amazing, it doesn't crack, only maybe moves a little. If that happens, its easily repaired, just take out the stones, straighten the sand foundation, put the stones back.
Even if you need stones for people in stilleto shoes, you can pack them close enough tohryhet or use bigger tiles
And then for the architects under us: USE TREES, USE PLANTS, USE GREEN.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 24d
If only there was a cheaper, more natural way to equip an open space with greenery and shade. Like a "canopy" or a roof made of leaves of some kind...
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 24d
The article specifically says that there are tunnels and pipes below this roundabout so plating trees was not possible.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 24d
That makes sense for the trees. Still could've built a simpler structure with some plants that don't have such deep roots.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 4 pts · 24d
That was the plan. From the article it looks like it failed because Belgium can't elect a government and they were not able to fund this project properly. It's a simple administrative failure in a country with way bigger issues than ugly roundabout.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 0 pts · 25d
Taking up White House decor.