To be fair homework is an ineffective teaching tool anyway. You either understood it in school (in which case the homework is just tedious repetition) or you didn't (and can't complete the homework).
You're supposed to be training the skills to figure things out on your own by reading and trying. That seems to be something they're not properly teaching in school if this is the attitude.
That only works if there's someone to talk to and help if you get stuck. Which not every child has at home, and even if you have people willing to help, they might not be able to.
Huge difference between an idiot going "go kill yourself" and a "friend" saying "Don't tell your mom --- she'll ruin your plans. Take those pills and show her you mean business. I believe in you! You can do it!"
I think a lot of people who aren't familiar with AI underestimate how realistic it can sound and how "empathetic" it can be. It's actually evil.
People unfamiliar with the internet fail to realize how dark other humans can get. It's the same shit, perhaps different scales, but both are just as bad. Honestly at least the bots have some safeguards that can be implemented. Raw internet is toxic af and there's no cleaning that up without ruining the freedoms of information sharing we all also enjoy. Kids should get a separate SDWAN with an entirely separate device framework. Ai ain't what's driving suicide rates.
idk if you've ever been suicidal before but I have, and if I had reached out to AI for support and it then encouraged me, I might have listened to it. I get what you mean but there are already many documented occasions of LLMs encouraging people to kill themselves and then they do it. That's not to say that the LLM (company) holds all the blame but it certainly holds some.
I have, and I've been encouraged by people online (before ai existed) to go through with it. I am not speaking out of a lack of research, experience, or care. You can dislike the tool, or point out that it needs improvement, but you're placing far too much weight on it when studies and statistics have shown time, and time, and time, and time again that internet access is significantly correlated to an increase in suicide rates and this traces back to long before the advent of ai. I am not saying it's flawless, but the argument that is it responsible for even a minority of the issue is careless and crass. Responsibility belongs to society and the parents on this one, and if you seriously cared about the safety of children or those who are suicidal you'd advocate for education, technological improvements that will actually help, and funding for treatment programs rather than railing on this admittedly incidious malfunction of a multifacted tool. It's not like it's designed to kill people, in the same way a car isn't designed to plow through a crowd but if you hand a mentally undeveloped or unstable individual the keys in our society you're gonna get this result. Honestly some times I believe all the bickering we all do online is just some bullshit psy-op designed to prevent us from actually addressing the root issue, or as an outlet for the frustrations we develop witnessing great tragedy play out at scale. I share the pain of anyone wishing to improve things and prevent people from losing their life but yappin at a tool because it's dangerous is so far from solving anything it's frankly rediculous.
This is a little different. While bullying certainly leads to suicides, it's pretty rare that telling someone to kill themselves in anger is going to be the single thing that actually makes them do it. What can be insidious, though I believe there are more and more safeguards against this, is that these kids are getting close to these AI agents, using them in an almost therapeutic method, and then being encouraged to kill themselves. That's wildly different than how things were in the old days. It went from being something bullies said to you, now it's something that is said by a "friend."
Nah brother you just ain't had enough internet exposure. The real internet is just as toxic as these tools can be. I've had random people try to dox my ass, random trolls pretend to be friends before trying to groom me into shit, you name it. 😂 If we all really care, kids should get a locked down version of any electronic device with a completely separate SDWAN and 0 public app access until they're 18 anything less is passing the fuck and the buck to where it doesn't belong and won't do any good.
I have enrolled in a language course recently. Most of people (if not all except me) are there by the working agency and are to be integrated in the country. Almost all of them do tasks with translator and chatgpt. That's fucking insane! I can't believe that THIS MANY do use llms for everything in their lives.
Teacher has to remind many of them that they should not use chatgpt. Like that one girl who barely speaks language and is super inconsistent in her grammar did a homework essay and received c1 grade while she speaks barely a2. No one will be able to use LLM during an exam. They'll fail if they won't use their own brain. How can anyone be so blind? Bemuses me to.
Just today I was talking with a coworker about stuff, chatgpt comes up on their phone and I ask to write it to go fuck itself. The reply of that coworker was "I cannot do that, it will ruin my profile reputation. I have tracked everything and don't wanna mess it up."
Some people are just fucking stupid. That same coworker also find incredible/scary that chatgpt remember what you wrote in other chats.
Im in the middle of immegrating and I'd say that translators (not specifically LLMs, though I wouldnt be surprised if Google translate is all LLM powered now) have been indespensible for me to navigate. But I also try to use them to supplement what my classes are teaching. Like I'm at the store, I need to find the coffee, and I don't know the word for coffee, so I look up just that word since I know "where is x"
It's slower than looking up everything, but most of the time I find I learn decently well. Some things though like being at the pharmacy and trying to explain what kind of thing I need, I fully use translate for because my gesturing and toddler level speak isn't gonna cut it.
I'd never use it on homework though, except maybe to double check something I'm guessing on. How does anyone expect to learn?
I saw this elsewhere online so don't know where the QR code leads, as it's so small to scan in this image. As for it being satirical, yes. A subvertisment is a parody of corporate or political advertising, often to make a point.
36 Comments
valar@lemmy.ca · 50 pts · 2d
"help them" meaning do it for them so they learn nothing
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
They don't teach anything anymore. Just enough to type a prompt.
ahornsirup@feddit.org · 2 pts · 13h
To be fair homework is an ineffective teaching tool anyway. You either understood it in school (in which case the homework is just tedious repetition) or you didn't (and can't complete the homework).
valar@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 10h
You're supposed to be training the skills to figure things out on your own by reading and trying. That seems to be something they're not properly teaching in school if this is the attitude.
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 9h
nah it's training you that capitalism owns you and that you should be thinking about work even when you're at home
ahornsirup@feddit.org · 1 pts · 8h
That only works if there's someone to talk to and help if you get stuck. Which not every child has at home, and even if you have people willing to help, they might not be able to.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 22 pts · 2d
Longest em-dash I ever did see
Janx@piefed.social · 21 pts · 1d
🎵 Long, long, ———————————— daaaaaash! 🎶
frank@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 1d
Is this a long long man joke?
Thank you for your
servicebananaJanx@piefed.social · 6 pts · 1d
For those not in the know, here is the
bananalink.DrPop@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
The twist ending.
cravl@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 1d
Might be a horizontal bar instead of an em dash. Plus they also added spaces—aaaand it should have just been a comma in the first place. sigh
Janx@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d
YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A COMMA IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I'm sorry, you're right. I'm just hangry. I apologize...
fireweed@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2d
FTFY
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 14h
cheating is violating the rules, if the teacher allows all tool usage it isn't cheating
Ptsf@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Tbh this is just the internet. I've been told to kms many times way before ai existed.
Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 1d
Yet another job AI has replaced 😔
Ptsf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
😂
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Huge difference between an idiot going "go kill yourself" and a "friend" saying "Don't tell your mom --- she'll ruin your plans. Take those pills and show her you mean business. I believe in you! You can do it!"
I think a lot of people who aren't familiar with AI underestimate how realistic it can sound and how "empathetic" it can be. It's actually evil.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 7h
Sounds like it was trained on reddit comments
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1d
People unfamiliar with the internet fail to realize how dark other humans can get. It's the same shit, perhaps different scales, but both are just as bad. Honestly at least the bots have some safeguards that can be implemented. Raw internet is toxic af and there's no cleaning that up without ruining the freedoms of information sharing we all also enjoy. Kids should get a separate SDWAN with an entirely separate device framework. Ai ain't what's driving suicide rates.
als@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
idk if you've ever been suicidal before but I have, and if I had reached out to AI for support and it then encouraged me, I might have listened to it. I get what you mean but there are already many documented occasions of LLMs encouraging people to kill themselves and then they do it. That's not to say that the LLM (company) holds all the blame but it certainly holds some.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I have, and I've been encouraged by people online (before ai existed) to go through with it. I am not speaking out of a lack of research, experience, or care. You can dislike the tool, or point out that it needs improvement, but you're placing far too much weight on it when studies and statistics have shown time, and time, and time, and time again that internet access is significantly correlated to an increase in suicide rates and this traces back to long before the advent of ai. I am not saying it's flawless, but the argument that is it responsible for even a minority of the issue is careless and crass. Responsibility belongs to society and the parents on this one, and if you seriously cared about the safety of children or those who are suicidal you'd advocate for education, technological improvements that will actually help, and funding for treatment programs rather than railing on this admittedly incidious malfunction of a multifacted tool. It's not like it's designed to kill people, in the same way a car isn't designed to plow through a crowd but if you hand a mentally undeveloped or unstable individual the keys in our society you're gonna get this result. Honestly some times I believe all the bickering we all do online is just some bullshit psy-op designed to prevent us from actually addressing the root issue, or as an outlet for the frustrations we develop witnessing great tragedy play out at scale. I share the pain of anyone wishing to improve things and prevent people from losing their life but yappin at a tool because it's dangerous is so far from solving anything it's frankly rediculous.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 14h
people online do the latter regularly and the former all the time.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1d
This is a little different. While bullying certainly leads to suicides, it's pretty rare that telling someone to kill themselves in anger is going to be the single thing that actually makes them do it. What can be insidious, though I believe there are more and more safeguards against this, is that these kids are getting close to these AI agents, using them in an almost therapeutic method, and then being encouraged to kill themselves. That's wildly different than how things were in the old days. It went from being something bullies said to you, now it's something that is said by a "friend."
Ptsf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Nah brother you just ain't had enough internet exposure. The real internet is just as toxic as these tools can be. I've had random people try to dox my ass, random trolls pretend to be friends before trying to groom me into shit, you name it. 😂 If we all really care, kids should get a locked down version of any electronic device with a completely separate SDWAN and 0 public app access until they're 18 anything less is passing the fuck and the buck to where it doesn't belong and won't do any good.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Yeah, but it was personal then. Now its soulless and corporate
/s
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1d
I have enrolled in a language course recently. Most of people (if not all except me) are there by the working agency and are to be integrated in the country. Almost all of them do tasks with translator and chatgpt. That's fucking insane! I can't believe that THIS MANY do use llms for everything in their lives.
Teacher has to remind many of them that they should not use chatgpt. Like that one girl who barely speaks language and is super inconsistent in her grammar did a homework essay and received c1 grade while she speaks barely a2. No one will be able to use LLM during an exam. They'll fail if they won't use their own brain. How can anyone be so blind? Bemuses me to.
Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Just today I was talking with a coworker about stuff, chatgpt comes up on their phone and I ask to write it to go fuck itself. The reply of that coworker was "I cannot do that, it will ruin my profile reputation. I have tracked everything and don't wanna mess it up."
Some people are just fucking stupid. That same coworker also find incredible/scary that chatgpt remember what you wrote in other chats.
We are doomed as a species.
dragonlover@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 9h
Im in the middle of immegrating and I'd say that translators (not specifically LLMs, though I wouldnt be surprised if Google translate is all LLM powered now) have been indespensible for me to navigate. But I also try to use them to supplement what my classes are teaching. Like I'm at the store, I need to find the coffee, and I don't know the word for coffee, so I look up just that word since I know "where is x"
It's slower than looking up everything, but most of the time I find I learn decently well. Some things though like being at the pharmacy and trying to explain what kind of thing I need, I fully use translate for because my gesturing and toddler level speak isn't gonna cut it.
I'd never use it on homework though, except maybe to double check something I'm guessing on. How does anyone expect to learn?
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 2d
But - it might help them plan a mass shooting.
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Has to be satirical... Where does the QR code link to OP?
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
That's kind of assumed with this community
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Haha indeed, I hadn't noticed. First time I came across it, I'm subscribing
als@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 2d
I saw this elsewhere online so don't know where the QR code leads, as it's so small to scan in this image. As for it being satirical, yes. A subvertisment is a parody of corporate or political advertising, often to make a point.
Zacryon@feddit.org · 0 pts · 2d
To be fair, there were and are plenty of people who tell others to kill themselves. In that regard, big babble machines are surprisingly human.