make sure you cook your food to the safe temps. The good news is it's technically time and temp. you don't have to overcook your chicken to be safe about it. For example, you can cook your steak to 130 in a sousvide and hold it there long enough for the center to be at 130 for 121 minutes and achieve a log 7 reduction, while still serving a perfectly medium rare. (just let it rest down and sear it off on high heat for a perfect crust and perfect medium rare.)
160 is high enough that if you reach it for any amount of time you've achieved the same log-7 reduction, though. I've found taking chicken breasts to 145 and letting them rest to 155 (and back down) is both safe and also the best texture (I'm not a fan of very-rare chicken. technically you could do some pink if you held it at a lower temp, but, eh... it's still juicy and tender this way.)
(pdf warning, but you can find more detailed info here there's other sources for the information- this is from usda guidance to restaurants.)
You cannot reopen facilities that had Listeria, you pretty much have to bulldoze it and start over, due to how pervasive the bacteria is. No amount of gutting and/or replacing this or that is going to eradicate it completely. And I guarantee you they cut corners to save on costs to get this facility running again.
Also, they are still racking up non-compliance reports, so expect more foodborne illness from this supplier.
Such a damn shame, all the rest of the delis near me have absolute garbage pastrami. Every damn deli is diets and watson and they carry the lowest grade of pastrami I've ever had.
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22 Comments
zd9@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1d
The one on the right has LESS worms in it amazingly
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
It really kinda annoys me that people get this fact so wrong.
RFKjr doesn't have brain worms- they died of starvation.
jim_v@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
For now. 🤞
http://screwworm.gov/
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
Wow I'm officially confused on what all I'm supposed to avoid. Someone help us
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
make sure you cook your food to the safe temps. The good news is it's technically time and temp. you don't have to overcook your chicken to be safe about it. For example, you can cook your steak to 130 in a sousvide and hold it there long enough for the center to be at 130 for 121 minutes and achieve a log 7 reduction, while still serving a perfectly medium rare. (just let it rest down and sear it off on high heat for a perfect crust and perfect medium rare.)
160 is high enough that if you reach it for any amount of time you've achieved the same log-7 reduction, though. I've found taking chicken breasts to 145 and letting them rest to 155 (and back down) is both safe and also the best texture (I'm not a fan of very-rare chicken. technically you could do some pink if you held it at a lower temp, but, eh... it's still juicy and tender this way.)
(pdf warning, but you can find more detailed info here there's other sources for the information- this is from usda guidance to restaurants.)
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
130 Celsius is pretty high for medium rare, isn't it?
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
130 f. roughly 55 c.
black0ut@pawb.social · 5 pts · 1d
Ohhhh, I was wondering how you made the water in the sous vide not evaporate at 130°. Now it makes sense.
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Football field units! I knew it!
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Best to just start fasting until the next administration
Murse@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 1d
...this is really disrespectful to pastrami and corned beef.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Speaking of Listeria in meat...
Avoid Boar's Head at all costs!
2024 US Listerosis outbreak, tied to Boar's Head deli meats
This year, they have reopened the deli meat plant tied to the 2024 Listeria outbreak
You cannot reopen facilities that had Listeria, you pretty much have to bulldoze it and start over, due to how pervasive the bacteria is. No amount of gutting and/or replacing this or that is going to eradicate it completely. And I guarantee you they cut corners to save on costs to get this facility running again.
Also, they are still racking up non-compliance reports, so expect more foodborne illness from this supplier.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1d
Way ahead of you. I didn't even know that was a thing until this comment.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
Such a damn shame, all the rest of the delis near me have absolute garbage pastrami. Every damn deli is diets and watson and they carry the lowest grade of pastrami I've ever had.
breezeblock@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
Head office wants you to…
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1d
I can excuse fascism, but stay the hell away from my pastrami!
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
We have the meats
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
meats and ferments.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 3 pts · 1d
sound of buckets of molten rubber being poured through a leaf mulcher-rfk voice
"You could argue that me embracing the worms that make me exist is somehow disgusting. But I'd beg to differ. It's racist. And I think it's about time we give these magnificent creatures their day in the spotlight for sharing their life force with us.
Do you realise how much work they put into keeping roadkill supple for us? Be grateful."
ickplant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
“Did you even say Thank you?”
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
With and without.
Janx@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
Boomers in shambles...