yeah thats what i was thinking hell look at cuddlefish they literally mate with a bunch of males, save their sperm separately in packets and then pick the 'best' to optimize the genetic quality. nature is wack. would be wild to learn another creature unlocked Parthenogenesis tho.
What a roller coaster for the people caring for Charlotte. She has a lump that's probably a tumor, no it's eggs, no it's a baby, no it's a reproductive disease.
By late May and June 2024, medical testing and veterinary specialists confirmed Charlotte did not have embryos, but instead suffered from a rare and fatal reproductive disease that mimicked pregnancy on ultrasounds.
two scenes from jurassic Park spliced together for comedic effect
edit for extra context: the smaller man - Dr Alan Grant portrayed by Sam Neill - is taken from a scene at the start of the movie where he meets a dinosaur for the first time - a sickly triceratops - and is listening to its breathing. The larger man - mathematician Ian Malcom portrayed by Jeff Goldblum - is taken from later in the movie where he was injured in a dinosaur attack and thus appears in dishelved clothing/a state of undress.
They have replaced the triceratops and the background from the Grant/Neill scene with Malcolm/Goldblum and surrounds.
The stingray ended up being sick and not actually pregnant. They were possibly seeing cysts, not eggs. Or possibly cysts and eggs and the illness caused the embryos to abort and were eaten before anyone noticed them.
Sting Jesus, while obviously a joke, doesn't really make sense does it? Wouldn't it be Sting Mary? Or Sting Jesus's Mom? I'm not a Bibleologist of course, I only play one in the internet.
Big wheel keep on turnin'. Sting Mary keep on burnin'.
I'm extremely surprised '''''they''''' would think there's any species of shark could father babies with a ray, though but then maybe I'm just a big ole dumby for thinking they would be in reference to the keepers and support staff who cared for and/or studied Sting Mary.
This is the kind of early morning espresso/kratom talk I can get behind!
Rollin' on the river!
Sting Mary's womb was indeed empty, but the shape of her uterine void was mapped and used to build a functional replica of the salty messiah. When he was found floating down the Nile on a congealed foam of textile factory chemicals, the prophecy was fulfilled.
Source? The provided link said she was sick which made it look like she was pregnant.
A larger aquarium might have saved her but it feels disingenuous to imply they kept her despite that when it sounds like they didn't even know there was even a problem requiring escalation until it was way too late.
They knew there was a problem months before she died, and even if they didnât, they should have sent her somewhere with the proper resources. Instead, they kept her in a tiny âaquarium,â which is just a small room of fish tanks of aquatic animals that shouldnât be there.
They kept her because she was making tons of money.
Had they sent her to a proper pacific research aquarium that is knowledgable about her species, she may not have died.
Who's that man with the three piece suit?
Lookin' at stingbabe like she's mighty cute
Who's that man with the three sharp limbs?
Always takin' her on romantic swims
We just went snorkeling with stingrays in the Bahamas, and they had the same thing happen. The enclosure was only females, and yet one of them has gotten pregnant.
I assumed she was pregnant when the put them in the enclosure and they didn't know it? Or that they weren't as good at distinguishing male/female as they thought they were.
But you know, maybe there are some cool optional hermaphroditic traits in sting rays that biologists are just currently unaware of.
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Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 175 pts · 18d
How slow is a stingrays metabolism and ovulation cycle?
Can it hold onto a fertilized egg for a long while?
I checked and looks like they may be able to hold onto sperm for a few years.
Painted turtles can hold sperms for up to 3 years and fertilize eggs from multiple clutches with saved sperm.
Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world · 118 pts · 18d
yeah thats what i was thinking hell look at cuddlefish they literally mate with a bunch of males, save their sperm separately in packets and then pick the 'best' to optimize the genetic quality. nature is wack. would be wild to learn another creature unlocked Parthenogenesis tho.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 68 pts · 18d
Cuddlefish are a fictional species from the game Subnautica. I think you mean cuttlefish.
Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 18d
well thats just ducking great. (obviously my autocorrect is attention seeking)
NoPanko@feddit.uk · 20 pts · 18d
Poor touch starved autocorrect :(
Dojan@pawb.social · 28 pts · 18d
I just kind of assumed that stingrays were capable of parthenogenesis.
Did a cursory search and this was the first result which put a dampener on the whole situation unfortunately.
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 17d
What a roller coaster for the people caring for Charlotte. She has a lump that's probably a tumor, no it's eggs, no it's a baby, no it's a reproductive disease.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 18d
Sounds like they've perfected the process and us humans could learn a thing or two from them đ
village604@adultswim.fan · 13 pts · 18d
Eugenics has been pretty problematic for humans in the past.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 18d
Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 17d
The problem with eugenics is other people having control over your reproduction. This is more control in the loins of the reproducers.
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 18d
That's how human pregnancy works in the SF novel Ilium
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 18d
Sounds like they donât have time to cuddle.
Ajen@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 18d
Honey bees are another good example of this.
SystemDisc@feddit.org · 1 pts · 15d
nialv7@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 18d
need to vent?
sus
Quokka@quokk.au · 42 pts · 18d
à¶
Agent641@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 18d
I was doing tasks! Teal is sus
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 18d
amogus
Trex202@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 18d
Vent about how stoopid people can get
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 18d
Life, uhh, finds a way
crimson_iris@piefed.social · 42 pts · 18d
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 18d
thanks. i needed you outweird my coworker.
smh@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 18d
ELI5 WTF I'm looking at, please.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 18d
two scenes from jurassic Park spliced together for comedic effect
edit for extra context: the smaller man - Dr Alan Grant portrayed by Sam Neill - is taken from a scene at the start of the movie where he meets a dinosaur for the first time - a sickly triceratops - and is listening to its breathing. The larger man - mathematician Ian Malcom portrayed by Jeff Goldblum - is taken from later in the movie where he was injured in a dinosaur attack and thus appears in dishelved clothing/a state of undress.
They have replaced the triceratops and the background from the Grant/Neill scene with Malcolm/Goldblum and surrounds.
smh@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 18d
danke đ
degen@midwest.social · 5 pts · 18d
Now we just need Jim Carrey crawling out of his asshole
Etterra@discuss.online · 31 pts · 18d
That sounds like parthenogenesis to me.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 18d
And a surprisingly large number of species can do it.
Newhere@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 17d
I wish women could do...
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 17d
As the one of those from the half of the species that you are wanting to wipe out I have to say, "I get it... we brought this on ourselves."
CatAssTrophy@safest.space · 5 pts · 17d
The stingray ended up being sick and not actually pregnant. They were possibly seeing cysts, not eggs. Or possibly cysts and eggs and the illness caused the embryos to abort and were eaten before anyone noticed them.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/pregnant-virgin-stingray-wont-give-birth-after-all-heres-why-180984458/
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 18d
Sting Jesus, while obviously a joke, doesn't really make sense does it? Wouldn't it be Sting Mary? Or Sting Jesus's Mom? I'm not a Bibleologist of course, I only play one in the internet.
Big wheel keep on turnin'. Sting Mary keep on burnin'.
I'm extremely surprised '''''they''''' would think there's any species of shark could father babies with a ray, though but then maybe I'm just a big ole dumby for thinking they would be in reference to the keepers and support staff who cared for and/or studied Sting Mary.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 18d
Okay, but the baby would be?
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 18d
Dead, there was no baby.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 18d
This is the kind of early morning espresso/kratom talk I can get behind!
Rollin' on the river!
Sting Mary's womb was indeed empty, but the shape of her uterine void was mapped and used to build a functional replica of the salty messiah. When he was found floating down the Nile on a congealed foam of textile factory chemicals, the prophecy was fulfilled.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 18d
Would be, not is. Just trying to be pedantic over someone trying to be funny, don't mind me.
mirshafie@europe.pub · 7 pts · 18d
Sting Jesus is the bebe.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 3 pts · 17d
Before Sting there was Police. So it's Police Mary
DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 17d
And to play us out, here's Sting Jesus with Streams of Gold.
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 18d
What, you've never nutted in a stingray before?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 18d
Me nutting in a stingray isn't the surprise. Her being pregnant is the surprise. This one isn't on me!
Salvo@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 18d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_taxa_that_use_parthenogenesis
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-14/charlotte-the-stingray-pregnant-without-mate/103467922
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/03/nx-s1-4990216/charlotte-stingray-pregnant-not-disease
Odo@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 18d
Unfortunately a sad followup:
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/01/nx-s1-5025232/charlotte-the-stingray-pregnant-dies-north-carolina
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 18d
Itâs because they kept her instead of sending her to a larger aquarium or marine biology center that could support Charlotte.
glimse@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18d
Source? The provided link said she was sick which made it look like she was pregnant.
A larger aquarium might have saved her but it feels disingenuous to imply they kept her despite that when it sounds like they didn't even know there was even a problem requiring escalation until it was way too late.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18d
They knew there was a problem months before she died, and even if they didnât, they should have sent her somewhere with the proper resources. Instead, they kept her in a tiny âaquarium,â which is just a small room of fish tanks of aquatic animals that shouldnât be there.
They kept her because she was making tons of money.
Had they sent her to a proper pacific research aquarium that is knowledgable about her species, she may not have died.
Salvo@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 17d
Poor Charlotte.
ladicius@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 18d
Some sting ray enthusiast from the staff transported sting ray semen into the tank.
prex@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 18d
Someone from the staff is three stingrays in a trenchcoat.
FishFace@piefed.social · 5 pts · 18d
Who's that man with the three piece suit? Lookin' at stingbabe like she's mighty cute Who's that man with the three sharp limbs? Always takin' her on romantic swims
Stingray daa-aad, nobody suspects a thing!
mastod0n@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 18d
Shark ray pewpew
unknown@piefed.social · 5 pts · 18d
Put a fricken laser on it
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 18d
We just went snorkeling with stingrays in the Bahamas, and they had the same thing happen. The enclosure was only females, and yet one of them has gotten pregnant.
I assumed she was pregnant when the put them in the enclosure and they didn't know it? Or that they weren't as good at distinguishing male/female as they thought they were.
But you know, maybe there are some cool optional hermaphroditic traits in sting rays that biologists are just currently unaware of.
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 17d
Life uh... finds a way
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 17d
OG Jurassic Park famous Quote
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 16d
I get the science parts, but how is Danielle the topic of this vent?
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18d
It was bullfuck I tell ya
EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app · -2 pts · 18d
What are the odds on Kalshi?