Hi! Italian is my mother tongue, and "Fugazzi" is not a word.
There are many ways to say "counterfeit": the standard word is "contraffatto", but there are also many colloquial terms such as "tarocco", "patacca" and more. If you're kinda racist you can say "cinesata" which means "trash from china".
According to my brief research Fugazzi is a brand of perfumes, and probably a surname...
According to google, fugazzi is used to mean "counterfeit" in the italian american community, and was popularized by the movie The Wolf of Wall Street.
Since you said it was possibly a surname, my guess is that someone named Fugazi was a well known counterfeiter for the mob, and the Italian Americans started using it as slang.
According to this, I was almost right. He owned a limousine rental service with the ad tag line, "look like a rich guy." So he was creating "fake riches."
For me it makes sense! I also imagine the name could originally be Fugazzi with two z, as that would make more sense in Italian. And then it maybe was anglicised first as Fugazy (as said in Wiktionary) and finally Fugazi!
Interestingly Wiktionary weakly supports my hunch that it was a last name.
Uncertain; said to be of Mafia origin, from the Fugazy Continental limousine company in New York City which was owned by William “Bill” Fugazy, due to its cheesy “look like a rich guy” advertisements of the 1970s and 1980s, or its alleged poor business practices,[1] possibly influenced by Sicilian fu cazzu (“it was nothing”). The word was popularized by the film Donnie Brasco (1997), based on the book Donnie Brasco: My Undercover Life in the Mafia (1987) by American former FBI agent Joseph D. Pistone (born 1939) who used the name “Donnie Brasco” as an undercover alias. First use in English appears c. 1974 in the novel Bones of Contention by Nicholas Gage.
Adjective
What people though? I've seen this 'fact' mentioned online which seems to trace back to some 2022 article. But growing up Fugazi was seemingly always considered emo.
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CorrenteAlternata@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 54 pts · 2d
Hi! Italian is my mother tongue, and "Fugazzi" is not a word.
There are many ways to say "counterfeit": the standard word is "contraffatto", but there are also many colloquial terms such as "tarocco", "patacca" and more. If you're kinda racist you can say "cinesata" which means "trash from china".
According to my brief research Fugazzi is a brand of perfumes, and probably a surname...
According to google, fugazzi is used to mean "counterfeit" in the italian american community, and was popularized by the movie The Wolf of Wall Street.
Hope this helps!
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 3 pts · 2d
It was in the xfiles episode I just watched as well.
Weird Americans.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2d
I thought the Z was just a fancy written one, not a double one. According to my search:
fugazi
adjective
Example: the stealing was first noticed when the fugazi bills began popping up in the bank deposits
noun
Example: it's all a big fugazi. He's used it as a ruse to sell a lot of stock
My first search came with "counterfeit" as first translation.
CorrenteAlternata@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 2d
What I was trying to say is that that's not Italian. It's US English :)
GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io · 13 pts · 2d
that's baloney!
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Since you said it was possibly a surname, my guess is that someone named Fugazi was a well known counterfeiter for the mob, and the Italian Americans started using it as slang.
https://lemmy.zip/comment/28532982
According to this, I was almost right. He owned a limousine rental service with the ad tag line, "look like a rich guy." So he was creating "fake riches."
CorrenteAlternata@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1d
For me it makes sense! I also imagine the name could originally be Fugazzi with two z, as that would make more sense in Italian. And then it maybe was anglicised first as Fugazy (as said in Wiktionary) and finally Fugazi!
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 2d
But that's more of an (american) english word that vaguely looks like it has an italian origin.
watson387@sopuli.xyz · 28 pts · 2d
Fugazi is an old punk band.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2d
And an album by Marillion.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 2d
They only sell bootlegs
djdarren@piefed.social · 9 pts · 2d
Is it a waiting room?
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Nah, it's just a minor threat.
djdarren@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
Is that a promise?
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 2d
It's a scam, they advertise good coffee but they were closed
muzzle@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 3d
I was not aware fugazzi meant anything in Italian (and I'm a native speaker). I think it just sounds Italian. Maybe it's a last name.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 2d
Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 2d
That is english, not italian
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2d
Ah ok, my bad :)
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d
Easy mistake to make.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2d
I fixed it :)
muzzle@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 2d
Interestingly Wiktionary weakly supports my hunch that it was a last name.
SolacefromSilence@fedia.io · 3 pts · 2d
Thank you for the etymology :)
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
I wonder if it is related or not, here in argentina we call "fugaza" to a variety of pizza manily made with cheese and onions.
Edit: i just saw the menu of that place, i'm 100% sure it is not related to our fugaza
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 3 pts · 2d
Also US military slang for something going catastrophically wrong, from “fucked up, got ambushed, zipped in”
DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Uh. No. Just no.
Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2d
So if that regularly happens, and it still goes to shit, does that make the fugazi snafu fubar?
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 2d
Fugazi is an emo band.
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
No where near emo band. People usually say post-hardcore or even punk.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1d
What people though? I've seen this 'fact' mentioned online which seems to trace back to some 2022 article. But growing up Fugazi was seemingly always considered emo.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 2d
I think it's a scam