Well the question that remains is how much will this Iran war break the oil economy. I think the time will come when people will be forced to take alternative commutes. That's how big of a disaster is present on the horizon.
Or maybe I'm just wishing we have a complete fuel shortage to enjoy car free living for a bit?
Imagine an America where gas prices are high and physical shortages are common. That's the future I'm envisioning. I understand alternatives aren't present, but people just biking to work is the alternative I'm envisioning.
You're not counting the scenario in which distant houses that are stranded in some "suburbia" will crash in value and those places will be slowly abandoned.
Detroitisation but not because of loosing employers + degradation of city services but because it’s impractical / too expensive to live in the suburbs.
Interesting idea.
I bought a cheap used EV at the beginning of july. A 40 kwh Nissan Leaf. I was really nervous about the idea of daily driving an EV, but I knew I'd figure it out if I just got one and forced myself to. I felt like I was making a potentially really bad decision.
This has not been the case. I plug in at home and charge midnight-6am for 8¢ per kwh. I leave at 100% and get home with ~50%, while running the AC in 105 degree heat. I've fast charged it twice, once because I wanted to see how it worked, the second time to show my wife how it worked. I've never needed a fast charger.
It's like driving a normal car, except it's cheaper, quieter, smoother, faster, (for at least the first 100 feet) and I don't have to burn almost a gallon of gas each way back and forth to work.
Yep. I got a Bolt EUV for a decent price and love it.
I live in an apartment though with no home charging. I'd hasn't proved a problem for me though because there's fast chargers 5 minutes away from work and I like to sit in my car on lunch break anyway lol. So I just charge on my lunch break once a week and I'm set. It's about half what I spent in gas per month! It would be around a quarter if I could home charge.
Next month gonna take a 2000mi road trip in it! Bolts charge really slow (relative to other EVs) so it kinda makes me regret not getting a Hyundai with way faster charging but eh, I take like two of these trips a decade. What's a couple extra hours? Besides 2.5hrs of driving then 50 minutes of charge/nap time could be a nice cadence.
What I like about it is just less anxiety about having hundreds of moving parts and service items just waiting to go wrong. EVs are so much simpler, mechanically.
Totally agree on the fast charging experience - instead of near misses, roaring engines, chemical smells, I have to sit for 20-30 minutes and read while listening to birds. Your Bolt should charge faster than my Leaf, and I'm pretty sure your battery has active cooling, which makes fast charging even easier/faster than my Leaf.
EVs are so much simpler, mechanically.
And there it is. That, to me, is one of the best parts. I know cars. I know a lot about car engines and drivetrains. Combustion cars are Rube Goldberg machines.
In a combustion car I worry about the oil level and condition, the transmission fluid level and condition, the rod bearings, the main bearings, the timing belt or chain, all the guides for the timing chain, the spark plugs, the ignition system, the fuel pump, the fuel injectors, the questionable fuel that I may have unknowingly bought, on and on and on.
With my EV, I mostly just have to make sure it gets 120 or 240 volts across these two contacts for a few hours.
Gotta hand it to him, he's done much more than any other person towards green and renewable energy and the reduction of cars and pollution. By crippling the economy and incentivizing other countries to go fully green and independent of energy coming from coal or oil. Several news have shown hydrogen power, solar, wind and atomic energy making headways. More EVs sold than combustion ones in Australia for example. More EV trucks as well. Similarly, there was an article about places in NewYork with no cars.... No noise, no deadly accidents, no tire pollution, no lack of space due to parking, and use of public transportation. ETC. He is winning at being the worse thing that could ever happen to the economy.
its weird because the busses in san diego are actually pretty good, and they have the sprinter from up north, we could just start extending that system throughout the rest of cali
I hate cars too but can someone explain how I can get around the US without public transport? Y'all are trying to lynch anyone that drives but some of us can't ride a horse to visit our parents??
Would you get mad if parking spots were taken away to put up a bike lane? Would you be mad if an extra lane was taken away to put in public transportation? If you answer yes to these 2 questions you don't hate cars enough...
This community doesn't want to lynch people who drive, we don't fucking want cars to take up 100% of our space especially in cities!
There’s no public parking anymore anyways but I’m not sure how people 40 minutes from the city could bike easily in America but I’m sure you’ve got more wisdom to shove down our throat over it.
It's generally not on the individual to make public transport changes (besides carpooling and biking where possible), just make sure you're voting for people who are willing to make more bus routes and invest in public transport. Local elections really matter for this.
Lol, maybe you shouldn't be driving 40 mins to do stuff? Enjoy sitting in traffic and hating life, hope your insurance rates continue to increase and you end up broke and under control like your masters want you to be.
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inari@piefed.zip · 27 pts · 1d
Not until people have real alternative commutes
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Well the question that remains is how much will this Iran war break the oil economy. I think the time will come when people will be forced to take alternative commutes. That's how big of a disaster is present on the horizon.
Or maybe I'm just wishing we have a complete fuel shortage to enjoy car free living for a bit?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 16h
Alternative commutes do not exist in most of USA.
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 16h
Imagine an America where gas prices are high and physical shortages are common. That's the future I'm envisioning. I understand alternatives aren't present, but people just biking to work is the alternative I'm envisioning.
architect@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 10h
Not possible for most Americans.
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10h
Of course not, Americans are incapable of doing anything anymore 😂😂😂
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 5h
what kind of climate do you live in? where i am, weather is a huge barrier to micromobility for months out of the year.
veganpizza69@lemmy.vg · 4 pts · 13h
You're not counting the scenario in which distant houses that are stranded in some "suburbia" will crash in value and those places will be slowly abandoned.
nullify3112@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
Detroitisation but not because of loosing employers + degradation of city services but because it’s impractical / too expensive to live in the suburbs. Interesting idea.
PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2m
The cost of the house won't reduce by more than the cost of a BEV though.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 16 pts · 22h
It's hard not to act smug when you're an EV driver these days
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 17h
I bought a cheap used EV at the beginning of july. A 40 kwh Nissan Leaf. I was really nervous about the idea of daily driving an EV, but I knew I'd figure it out if I just got one and forced myself to. I felt like I was making a potentially really bad decision.
This has not been the case. I plug in at home and charge midnight-6am for 8¢ per kwh. I leave at 100% and get home with ~50%, while running the AC in 105 degree heat. I've fast charged it twice, once because I wanted to see how it worked, the second time to show my wife how it worked. I've never needed a fast charger.
It's like driving a normal car, except it's cheaper, quieter, smoother, faster, (for at least the first 100 feet) and I don't have to burn almost a gallon of gas each way back and forth to work.
I wish I could have bought one sooner.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 17h
Yep. I got a Bolt EUV for a decent price and love it.
I live in an apartment though with no home charging. I'd hasn't proved a problem for me though because there's fast chargers 5 minutes away from work and I like to sit in my car on lunch break anyway lol. So I just charge on my lunch break once a week and I'm set. It's about half what I spent in gas per month! It would be around a quarter if I could home charge.
Next month gonna take a 2000mi road trip in it! Bolts charge really slow (relative to other EVs) so it kinda makes me regret not getting a Hyundai with way faster charging but eh, I take like two of these trips a decade. What's a couple extra hours? Besides 2.5hrs of driving then 50 minutes of charge/nap time could be a nice cadence.
What I like about it is just less anxiety about having hundreds of moving parts and service items just waiting to go wrong. EVs are so much simpler, mechanically.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16h
Totally agree on the fast charging experience - instead of near misses, roaring engines, chemical smells, I have to sit for 20-30 minutes and read while listening to birds. Your Bolt should charge faster than my Leaf, and I'm pretty sure your battery has active cooling, which makes fast charging even easier/faster than my Leaf.
And there it is. That, to me, is one of the best parts. I know cars. I know a lot about car engines and drivetrains. Combustion cars are Rube Goldberg machines.
In a combustion car I worry about the oil level and condition, the transmission fluid level and condition, the rod bearings, the main bearings, the timing belt or chain, all the guides for the timing chain, the spark plugs, the ignition system, the fuel pump, the fuel injectors, the questionable fuel that I may have unknowingly bought, on and on and on.
With my EV, I mostly just have to make sure it gets 120 or 240 volts across these two contacts for a few hours.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 16h
Smug for driving a car? Imagine biking or taking public transport.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 9h
I wish we had such options
But yes I would feel even smugger
zurohki@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 17h
Only a little - groceries still arrive at the store on diesel trucks, so I get to share the pain.
Cheebus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
Swasticar?
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 9h
Nah I wouldn't be caught dead in one. Chevy Bolt
altphoto@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 19h
Gotta hand it to him, he's done much more than any other person towards green and renewable energy and the reduction of cars and pollution. By crippling the economy and incentivizing other countries to go fully green and independent of energy coming from coal or oil. Several news have shown hydrogen power, solar, wind and atomic energy making headways. More EVs sold than combustion ones in Australia for example. More EV trucks as well. Similarly, there was an article about places in NewYork with no cars.... No noise, no deadly accidents, no tire pollution, no lack of space due to parking, and use of public transportation. ETC. He is winning at being the worse thing that could ever happen to the economy.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 17h
I live in Oklahoma and I have been having a lot of fun telling everyone that trimp is a woke plant to trick everyone into driving EV's.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 5h
Unfortunately, the reason why gas didn't triple in price is because China started burning more coal instead of gas.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 20h
Don't care m8.
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20h
Would've been cooler if it wasn't a stock photo
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 16h
So employers will embrace work from home, right?
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16h
Lmfao nope Trump will expect people to sleep at work, like in China 😂😂
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 22h
Okay Gav Gav, what the fuck are you gonna do differently than Trump?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 16h
Dude is doing whatever it takes to make gas cheaper so people can drive more. It's the liberal car brain dream.
vathecka@lemmy.radio · 1 pts · 11h
its weird because the busses in san diego are actually pretty good, and they have the sprinter from up north, we could just start extending that system throughout the rest of cali
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 23h
Wish hard.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 16h
Libs gonna car brain until the planet is completely destroyed.
Infrapink@thebrainbin.org · 4 pts · 1d
So this already happened just after Richard Nixon was replaced by Gerald Ford.
danielquinn@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 1d
*fewer
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 12h
I hate cars too but can someone explain how I can get around the US without public transport? Y'all are trying to lynch anyone that drives but some of us can't ride a horse to visit our parents??
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 11h
jfc get a grip.
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 12h
Would you get mad if parking spots were taken away to put up a bike lane? Would you be mad if an extra lane was taken away to put in public transportation? If you answer yes to these 2 questions you don't hate cars enough...
This community doesn't want to lynch people who drive, we don't fucking want cars to take up 100% of our space especially in cities!
architect@thelemmy.club · -3 pts · 10h
There’s no public parking anymore anyways but I’m not sure how people 40 minutes from the city could bike easily in America but I’m sure you’ve got more wisdom to shove down our throat over it.
starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 10h
It's generally not on the individual to make public transport changes (besides carpooling and biking where possible), just make sure you're voting for people who are willing to make more bus routes and invest in public transport. Local elections really matter for this.
AviAdi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
Lol, maybe you shouldn't be driving 40 mins to do stuff? Enjoy sitting in traffic and hating life, hope your insurance rates continue to increase and you end up broke and under control like your masters want you to be.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 12h
The solution is public transport trolleys and trains.