man, if the guy throwing those punches was on my flight, I'd walk right up to him, stare him down, and buy him whatever beer he wanted. fuck that guy in the chair, got exactly what he deserved.
Yeah the speaker. Look up fighting words doctrine. Words meant to incite violence or cause a breach of peace when uttered directly at an individual with intent to provoke, are not protected by the first amendment. The man made a death threat. What comes next is what his words asked for.
Interesting. The death treat was clearly not what provoked the attack so I would like to see how this plays out in court. Probably depends on the state.
This reads of 'violence is never the answer'. Perhaps one of the most nieve beliefs we teach our kids. As an adult you should know that violence is the last and worst answer, but sometimes it's necessary. That young adult found out his words have consequences the hard way. Sorry, not sorry.
Wjy would we petition conservatives to allow us to stand up to conservatives? No thanks. The time for debating conservatives is over. The time for violent action is upon us.
With everything I said above in my opinion only the absolute minimum amount of violence is permitable. I'll repeat: violence is the last and worst answer. As much as we are responsible for the consequences of our words, our actions are a whole magnitude more consequential and require a whole magnitude more consideration.
It's the argument in the conversation of slavery and ethnic equity whether or not it's okay to use the masters tools. The argument can be made for both sides but the middle argument is most intriguing. What if we use the masters tools to userp the master then put those tools down? What if we use violence to stomp out the global rise of authoritarianism and fasicm then set it aside? Just some food for thought.
The self defense rule is you need to have a reasonable fear of your imminent safety, and this wasn't that.
That is why when someone insults us and we want to fight we goad them into giving us an excuse.
You wanting to make this ok is shortsighted, the next stand your ground that will be used against the people you are defending, in case you can't see past your fucking outstretched hand, pal.
What is your recommended course of action here? I would honestly love to know, since you are clearly morally superior to the rest of us. Please share with the class.
These aren't just words. This is a conservative bullying those around him. Conservatives are pure evil. They will initiate violence for no reason at all. Their violent, bigoted threats must be treated with quick, decisive action.
Conservatives have spent so many generations proudly initiating attacks on their victims that it becomes an imperative for their victims to nip that shit in the bud with force. The conservative should be grateful to have his valueless life spared in this case.
Clearly doing things "the right way" hasn't fixed things for this person. These consequences likely don't change their mind, but it does show others that it isn't acceptable in society. People literally clapped. It shows anyone seeing this that a beating is the only thing society thinks racists should get.
Pathetic take. You sound like a naive child (which you probably are). Go touch grass and explore the world. You clearly need to get in touch with reality.
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betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 1d
Might not change his mind but it certainly rearranged it a little.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz · 58 pts · 1d
...and everyone clapped. Beautiful.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 32 pts · 1d
Entirely appropriate response.
But fuck the cameraperson not blurring out the guy's face before posting (not the white guy, his ass can get doxed a dozen times)
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
Enhance!
unabart@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 1d
Dude’s face is going to look like a sack of purple golf balls.
gonzoanonymous@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
HA! I love it!
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
Loudmouth copped a few good shots! FAFO, son!
MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Bro needed that whooping. It was way overdue.
ElThuddo@fedinsfw.app · 8 pts · 1d
man, if the guy throwing those punches was on my flight, I'd walk right up to him, stare him down, and buy him whatever beer he wanted. fuck that guy in the chair, got exactly what he deserved.
Varesti@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 1d
So, do they both get put on the no fly list now or what?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 1d
I think only one of them actually broke the law.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 1d
Yeah the speaker. Look up fighting words doctrine. Words meant to incite violence or cause a breach of peace when uttered directly at an individual with intent to provoke, are not protected by the first amendment. The man made a death threat. What comes next is what his words asked for.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 5 pts · 1d
Interesting. The death treat was clearly not what provoked the attack so I would like to see how this plays out in court. Probably depends on the state.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d
Maybe, but you might be surprised which one. These were clearly "fighting words." The speaker is pretty clearly in the wrong legally.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
TIL death threats are protected speech
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 19h
I've done time.
This is exactly what happens when a white boy mouths off like this. It's immediately intense and righteous.
Technoworcester@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 10h
https://peertube.wtf/videos/embed/4aWhSZrg7maUG9oEHmGdip
Alternative link
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -73 pts · 1d
I am sorry, it's not acceptable to commit violence over words that offend like that.
Not the least as every bully in the hood will falsely accuse their victims of using slurs.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1d
This reads of 'violence is never the answer'. Perhaps one of the most nieve beliefs we teach our kids. As an adult you should know that violence is the last and worst answer, but sometimes it's necessary. That young adult found out his words have consequences the hard way. Sorry, not sorry.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -48 pts · 1d
Feel free to petition your elected representatives to allow for violence if someone's fee fees are hurt!
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1d
stfu loser, this is unadulterated conservatard snowflake logic
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -42 pts · 1d
No one outside of your little circle jerk here agrees with you. You are making us all look bad.
Idk why I bothered to answer your reasoned comment here. Such wit and logic you exercize! And you made that comment all by yourself! What a big boy!
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1d
Us? You got a piece of shit in your pocket? Who's us?
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 1d
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 1d
Who's "us", conservative apologist?
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -15 pts · 1d
You are wrongheaded. Go fund yourself.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 10h
Fuck you fascist enabler.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 1d
Wjy would we petition conservatives to allow us to stand up to conservatives? No thanks. The time for debating conservatives is over. The time for violent action is upon us.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20h
With everything I said above in my opinion only the absolute minimum amount of violence is permitable. I'll repeat: violence is the last and worst answer. As much as we are responsible for the consequences of our words, our actions are a whole magnitude more consequential and require a whole magnitude more consideration.
It's the argument in the conversation of slavery and ethnic equity whether or not it's okay to use the masters tools. The argument can be made for both sides but the middle argument is most intriguing. What if we use the masters tools to userp the master then put those tools down? What if we use violence to stomp out the global rise of authoritarianism and fasicm then set it aside? Just some food for thought.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 10h
Idiot.
caboose2006@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1d
But when someone threatens your life like that clown did "you'll be six feet under" sounds like a threat to life to me.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 23h
The person you're responding to is just racist. According to them, only 'unenlightened' black people will disagree with them
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -29 pts · 1d
The self defense rule is you need to have a reasonable fear of your imminent safety, and this wasn't that.
That is why when someone insults us and we want to fight we goad them into giving us an excuse.
You wanting to make this ok is shortsighted, the next stand your ground that will be used against the people you are defending, in case you can't see past your fucking outstretched hand, pal.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 1d
Fighting words.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -20 pts · 1d
No.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
Chicken?
0x0@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1d
Polo?
athatet@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
Literally yes.
ContactClosure@lemmus.org · 13 pts · 1d
So you're plan is to wait until they're putting the noose around your neck? Is that when you politely request they stop being evil pieces of shit?
maga_is_death@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
What is your recommended course of action here? I would honestly love to know, since you are clearly morally superior to the rest of us. Please share with the class.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Go ahead and share this thread with a black person. Specifically your comments, and make sure they understand they're your comments. Report back.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -10 pts · 1d
Yes, illegal assaults on white people is the way to fix things!
How fucking stupid are you! Or are you the enemy trying to make us turn against each other?
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 10h
People like you are the reason we are where we are. Eat shit and die pathetic turd.
YOU ARE THE ENEMY.
YOU ARE PROTECTING FASCISTS/RACISTS.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 23h
No, no. Go ask a black person about this.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -8 pts · 23h
They will agree with me, not your dumbass.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 23h
No, they won't.
caboose2006@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17h
Shortsighted? No. You're ending this fuckfaces threats and eventual terrorism forever. And nobody dies.
Senal@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1d
Did someone claim self defence?
Perhaps the video cuts out before that happened?
Do you have the full vid?
UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 1d
It's 2026. If you're still dropping words like that, you deserve everything coming your way. Including this.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 1d
These aren't just words. This is a conservative bullying those around him. Conservatives are pure evil. They will initiate violence for no reason at all. Their violent, bigoted threats must be treated with quick, decisive action.
Conservatives have spent so many generations proudly initiating attacks on their victims that it becomes an imperative for their victims to nip that shit in the bud with force. The conservative should be grateful to have his valueless life spared in this case.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 1d
Ed Sheeran, is that you?
"War is bad. I am not complicit."
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1d
Clearly doing things "the right way" hasn't fixed things for this person. These consequences likely don't change their mind, but it does show others that it isn't acceptable in society. People literally clapped. It shows anyone seeing this that a beating is the only thing society thinks racists should get.
0x0@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 1d
Lol piss off with that lukewarm take
Fuck around and find out is completely valid in this situation.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1d
Have fun in a camp!
maga_is_death@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1d
Pathetic take. You sound like a naive child (which you probably are). Go touch grass and explore the world. You clearly need to get in touch with reality.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 10h
Shut the fuck up loser.
mildseason@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 10h
Those words are violence. Perhaps i agree both are unacceptable but i can't say white boy didn't deserve it.
AviAdi@lemmy.world · -26 pts · 1d
Right? It's insane blacks think they get a pass if they act out on words. It's just a fucking word. FUCK YOUR FEELINGS OBEY THE LAW AND WALK AWAY!
Oh and it you say you want to kill the president in front of him expect to get shot in the head. #freedom of speech 😂😂😂
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1d
athatet@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
/s is for smoothbrain