It's basically a matter of a branded domain name and Mastodon will take over.
Governments and entities like the New York MTA are going to want something they control, rather than something that falls to the whims of some billionaire.
The tech for Mastodon is there. You just needs orgs that care less about reach and who trust people to come to them (like the New York MTA).
That's assuming that his goal is to run a profitable social media company that people respect, enjoy, and that makes profit. However, he's loaded af and can easily pay for the best consultants in the world. Considering that, I think it's possible that he might be reaching his goals, they're just not what we assume they are.
I've seen varying levels of this general idea that Musk somehow is still playing some 4d chess and the downfall of twitter is the plan, but it's really not. Twitter was already a niche generally. I only know like 2 people IRL who were on twitter, compared to basically everyone on Facebook, for example, and you can check the stats, twitter commanded way more mindspace than it actually had.
And even if the master plan was to kill twitter - so what? This won't stop anything. There is an argument to be made that all of the journalists and what not coalesced over there, but that's just not going to stop happening. It's like if someone wanted to kill instant messaging. "HA HA ICQ, this time I've got you!" Except, it's not the platform that's important, and it's easily replaced.
Even if Elon's plan is "let's federate" it's still an inane way to do it, but this seems like a more likely outcome.
Hanlon again for the win, simplest answer is he's not nearly as smart as anyone pretends.
Nobody associates it with paedos now and their “take existing videos and put our horrid moving shitty contrasted watermark on it” starting strat worked a dream
Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I've seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they're still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.
Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.
Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit.....but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.
if you have been back to reddit, they might have growing numbers (probably due to shitty practices forcing you to use their app instead of mobile browser) etc. but the quality of discussions and the amount of bots just reposting the same comments skyrocketed.
I mean it's a huge site, it won't die, but if you look at it that way, Facebook is still alive, do you have a desire to spend time on that site though?
Pleased to say I haven't been back to Reddit (except to scrub my entire history there to nuke my account). Reddit quality going completely down the toilet is something seen long before these changes were made. It's really sad to see that companies aren't forced to make better products because people will put time and money into these shit platforms regardless.
yeah I already noticed the downhill trend before the API changes but after it really went into a nosedive, expectedly the power users posting good shit just left, so rage bait reposts are the trending things.
I have been back to reddit to check things out from time to time. The quality has definitely degraded, and their changes to not seeing NSFW stuff without logging in or using their app has me visiting less and less.
The comment section is still nice, but I just don't see the quality it once had.
We can take a look at the comment count on major subreddits over time. Using the top 5 most commented listed on Subreddit Stats, and then using Social Rise to see comments per day (go down to "Graph of" and click "comments").
All except Starfield show comments cratering at the beginning of July, and they're not coming back. Obviously, Starfield is a special case given the release of the game. AITAH was also just starting to pick up and then had its jugular cut out. Across the board, there looks to be a 3 or 4 times reduction in comment rates.
Now, perhaps the site is still OK among the more niche subreddits. That'd take a lot longer to analyze. But it's clear the big traffic drivers are not pulling people in anymore.
While I overall agree this seems to be the case at first glance, I do notice that august there’s a huge drop that correlates with school starting up again. Probably need to compare to previous summers.
Edit: looks like it's still pretty huge even accounting for that
Good to know, i was having trouble on mobile with it. Thanks!
I'm glad I left that site. They just view us all as little addicts and have lost any semblance of caring about what made reddit work in the first place.
Only a good 0.1% of reddit actually "creates content" with the rest having only engagement via comments. A good 99% of those also don't do anything but lurk.
The people that make the content are also the ones more likely to switch to alternatives.
It's an engagement loop so while the amount of signups and accounts is unchanged, there is simply less content to keep people around and to monetize.
The burden of proof lies in the eyes of the Christian god! And as a fellow Muslim, I can say nothing about it, but He might speak through me and say that Reddit became a place without much new content.
I don't save sources in case of future need for references. I haven't written a thesis on the matter. It came up in a few articles in my tech news RSS feeds. You're welcome to not believe me and I would readily consider contrary information anyone else offers it.
Reddit is driven by search traffic and the results got a lot worse since a lot of good posters quit. They lost the content but not the users yet, I think it's just going to take a long time before they truly see the damage in their traffic statistics!
I just have a hard time believing this when the_donald started on reddit. The site has been an incubator for right wing actors for years. Even the infamous Stormfront recognized the opportunities for recruitment there years ago.
I mean, TikTok was already bad to begin with but what did they do to deserve a spot next to Twitter? Did I miss something? Surely they can't do worse than trying to make their paid only, right?
My fyp is full of bipoc LGBTQ+ people? Twitter on the other hand tries to feed me right wing news sources and disinformation all the time. There's a spectrum here and TikTok is far on the other side.
Also to be frank the algorithm is by far the best out of any company with a "for you" algorithm. It blows pretty much anything else out of the water entirely.
Go watch a few truck or bbq tik toks and watch it backslide. Anything that is vaguely a “manly hobby.” You’ll be surprised how quickly Ben Shapiro winds up in front of you.
I watch more tiktok than I'm proud of, and YouTube is actually way worse for this. Youtube I've actually started using some private browsing for things that I think might turn to Joe Rogan or whatever because on that platform you're like 7 videos from "i'd like to check out some camping videos" to "here's how to protect yourself from the woke mob in the apocalypse which will happen next Tuesday courtesy of Ben Shapiro."
The thing that worries me about tiktok is they're too good at this. It would honestly be extremely easy for them to tip the scales.
People rightfully call out TikTok as a spyware because of their ties with CCP, but how exactly are other social media giants and big tech any different as they too have ties with the CIA, FBI etc
Basically, most social media reads out everything that is openly accessible, like cookies, address books and contacts, etc.
TikTok goes deeper, it has been watched going into protected files, trying to break encryptions (sometimes being successful).
how is it speculative that big tech steals your data. Google, Amazon, microsoft, every single big internet conglomerate sell your data. Its a fact, and is widely reported.
Don't we have a different tiktok than the Chinese one? There are specifically US folks in charge of the non China Tiktok. Wasn't one of the security heads a former US state security agent?
Why do you think it's more spyware than any other big tech mobile app or social media?
And based on my experience getting hooked so fast into while I didn't want to touch it, it seems it has the best algorithm. I'm off it now, like all other social media expect for fediverse, but I can testify on this
Idk, I find it's algorithm very easy to control compared to every other social media, its much easy to manipulate. My fyp is full of gay people so idk what you mean by the second statement.
Unity is hors-concours, they've already won this race. None of these social networks have managed to fuck up so badly as to fully destroy their reputations like Unity did.
I don't know. Twitter running rampant as a nazi platform and safe harbor under Elon's tenure/stewardship has been something else. That platform was always a mess/ bad but not to the degree Elon has cranked it up to. It's full blown mania/ hysteria on that platform.
Edit: I miss the days of Twitter when I could've used it as my own personal news ticker/ use it to follow sports and my favorite sports reporters. It's shocking but there are actual uses and use cases for Twitter. It used to not be social media trash.
An I the only one who thinks this is exactly what he wanted? Hated seeing the western social media trying to block disinformation, so he buys it and let's the right wing extremists have free rein
Chinese authority doesn’t like twitter. Tesla was incentivised by the Chinese gouvernement to come to china and grow the EV market there. Tesla had a lot of very nice and attractive loans and business opportunities. China alone is now 32% of sales for Tesla. Muskrat buying twitter and driving it to the ground serve the Chinese interest, and I would not be surprised to hear there was an agreement to something along the lines of “you buy this, you do shit with it, we close our eyes on our loans” from the Chinese.
For the nazis, it’s all about the Tesla factory in Texas. Texas is quite red, when COVID happened and California was closing down Tesla factory in Fremont, Shit-face was opening his new factory in Texas. Democrats were all in for the Covid measures. Going strong with anti-vaxxers and republicans gained him favors in Texas, to be able to use his slaves, sorry employees despite the pandemic.
Down the line, I think this psychopath is only doing what all billionaire does: using his money to make more, more, more, completely ignoring the consequences. The only thing that drives him is making more money. Not with Twitter, but with using twitter to get what he wants…
They tried to apply a per install fee and make it retroactive for all games using the Unity Runtime. Meaning games made with Unity even a few years ago who didn't agree to this would be charged each time someone uninstalls and reinstalls the game.
This is the second time they have tried to make retroactive changes, by the way, and they even deleted the part of the TOS that prevented retroactive changes.
It's really just one of many things they have done in the last few years
To list out a lot of the many things: They've done forced RTO which is pretty internally disliked, fired a ton of people lately, a bit ago the CEO publicly said anyone who doesn't prioritize monetization are "the biggest fucking idiots", they bought an ad company known for making malware, and they keep getting in bed with military contracts including Lockheed. Oh and they cancelled their example project game Gigaya which I'm still bitter over
Just a minor correction, they actually merged with Iron Source, they didn't just buy them. That means there was a good bit of board carry over, which means Iron Source management is now making decisions at Unity.
I know lemmy hates Reddit but X is easily taking the cake here. Do you think Elon is respecting ANY of the policies around old user data? If you were EVER on Twitter, Musk is all up in your business.
I hesitate to speak for everyone... Okay, now I will. As ex-Redditors, we absolutely hate Reddit because we knew it in the past, and we also know it now. So authoritatively, fuck Reddit and fuck Spez.
(I know not everyone here came from/cares about Reddit)
I just can't support support its current trajectory. If they backpedaled settle of the recent decisions I'd return tomorrow, because after spending 3 months here I've found zero communities with enough activity to justify leaving the "everything" feed.
I hate reddit, but I always hated reddit, it was always a cesspool. back in the day before the recent admin drama it was really horribly bigoted, and when lots of people jumpped ship recently, the community got real racist real fast
But the alternatives aren't as developed. Godot still isn't great for 3D projects and Unreal is Epic and also has royalty fees like Unity tried to add.
Unreal only has a 5% fee on games that made over 1 million USD
Unity wanted to add a 0.20 USD tax for every download after you made 200K USD 200K users(which changes depending on how many downloads your game has and which plan you are using)
Units pricing method could have been easily exploited, game developers would have to pay for people pirating their games, if a free to play game reached those requirments, it could cost them more than the game made, giveaways would cost game developers money and all unity games would have to collect data
No, I'm well aware that Unity's model is fucked up.
I'm just saying that I don't consider Unreal a valid alternative, especially as it's owned by Epic who have shown themselves to be far worse than anything Unity has done already, and there are no other 3D engines as good as Unity. I called out Unreal also just because people are saying that Unity shouldn't charge any fees as they think fees are unfair, but then happily recommend Unreal.
Not saying necessarily to keep using it, I'm just saying it's not as simple of a solution as just switching for a lot of devs.
Well, Tiktok demotes china critical accounts and promotes china friendly ones, people who tried it came to the conclusion that's it's roughly by the factor 10 so they aren't even hiding it!
I remember when any ad over 15 seconds was skippable after 5. Now, if I turn adblock off, I may receive dual minute-long unskippable ads, even less than 5 minutes apart on an hour long video.
No matter what this 40 year old boomer ass Lemmy user base says, TikTok is amazing and some people are doing some really incredible things on it. You should give it a shot.
I'd worry more about the US which directly controls the state I live in over the guys chilling 3000 miles away. Its really a false equivalence to compare the two.
it is if one is far away and the US has active control over all western countries (I assume you live in a US bloc country), I'm going to be way more concerned with the one who can send a CIA agent to rule my death a suicide with two shots in my head.
This. I use tiktok more than I like, and it's extremely easy to watch an hour or two. Thing is, when you get done, try to remember even like 3% of what you watched.
If you're watching nothing but 15 second TikTok's, your algorithm is saying you're a fucking idiot. And I'd have to probably agree based off what you're saying here.
So you literally have no idea what it is and what it's about, but here you are running your little mouth. Weren't you raised better than believing what you hear when you easily have the ability to see what it's about yourself? You don't sound too bright.
I know what TikTok is and what it is about. That's why I choose not to use it. You are bright enough to realize that clips from TikTok are posted in other places on the web, right? I've never used crack cocaine either, but I know what it is and what it is about.
TikTok is literally designed to psychologically manipulate teenagers and you fell for it. You sound mad about it, too. Hope it doesn't rot your brain too much before you figure it out, but that doesn't sound likely from your replies.
Ya, because most of Lemmy userbase is from Reddit, the "American" website that bullied a kid into killing themselves, because they were "helping" find the boston bomber.
I don't use tiktok or any other shit social media like that. I had reddit for the communities and now this place for the same reason...which it's mainly memes at best. Using tiktok makes you a fucking idiot...
In 2019 they also performed a retroactive terms of service change and after the backlash they changed their TOS to basically say "this can never ever happen again"
A few months before this recent dumbfuck decision, they actually went back and removed the part of their TOS and that they couldn't make retroactive changes to the TOS and then hoped everyone forgot.
What they've done this time was a calculated business decision where they knew they'd piss people off and just expected most to suck it up and deal with it like they have every other time. They calculated very poorly here though as this was just the straw the fucked the camel raw and everyone is jumping ship. They have proven repeatedly they aren't an engine development prioritized company anymore, they have proven repeatedly that have no issues lying to paying customers and doing shady backdoor shit.
What they did a few days ago was a "whoopsie we tried to fuck you again and it didnt work so we'llwalk it back for now" and for the second time have promised that this retroactive change can't happen again. A second promise days after they broke that promise.
Not really. They fucked up their business contracts/ reputations and there's still a massive push to leave them in dust/ past. There's no undoing how massively they fucked up.
I don't think I've ever seen so many wish to devalue the companies at the same time. Let's not forget about robinhood also. I can't wait until reddit IPOs to short the shit out of it. You have to know their valuation is a farce and bullshit. The numbers are totally cooked there.
OP, social media usage is down across the board. These platforms won't truly die until the next cycle of growth. Autumn? Winter? Usually gaming goes up when the cold weather comes around. Perhaps we will see growth then. We ought to be making sure we make communities for each new game that comes out, if an instance creators goal is to attract a lot of people. If they prefer quality, well, keep on this course. Lemmy is amazing.
Usually gaming goes up when the cold weather comes around. Perhaps we will see growth then. We ought to be making sure we make communities for each new game that comes out, if an instance creators goal is to attract a lot of people.
Speaking of, wouldn't that be a good time for a general games/gaming instance to spin up then to play host to those communities?
I'm on the fence on this one because on one hand, more content is always a good thing. On the other, more people will bring the attention of corporate capitalists
Its a heavy mixup, but either lemmy dies or its going to get better. Federation has seen a dramatic increase in usership, so I'm thinking its getting bigger. Its inevitable that capitalists are going to see us anyway. We just have to tell them to fuck off. I don't really know what to do besides that lol.
Since I am side loading Apollo still, Reddit overall is still good. I currently don’t see much change because of this. However, when my RedditAPI key is revoked and I’m unable to generate a new API key, there is no way I can keep using it. I’ve got 5 different Reddit apps on my phone, including Apollo, and they all suck.
Dude just ditch Reddit. They’re getting users to pay people to shitpost and are taking a cut, they also removed the ability to opt out of tracking for ads. All in like 3 days!
China isn't hostile, afaik only the US has been hostile. And claiming that tiktok did that is equivalent to saying random American company is responsible for bombing Iraq
Right, that would make a lot of sense to do about the country that's openly hostile to you. Oh, China has territory disputes with neighbors? The US will literally fucking bomb you to nothing for your oil, and/or stage a false flag coup to overthrow your government if they won't sell them oil. We have also used corporate espionage to rewrite the laws of several South American countries into ineffectiveness, for the benefit of a fruit company. The two are not remotely comparable on foreign policy.
Literally none of that is true. If it is, provide a source. Who has China gone to full scale war with for their oil? Genocide was made up by a far right grifter named Adrian zenz. You've fallen hardcore American propaganda bro.
No, it doesn't. Taiwan seceded from them, they aren't trying to colonize it. America bombing Iraq and destabilizing SA governments is killing for oil. Buying oil from Russia is not that.
I think as a format memes are very fun on TikTok cause they're expected to always have a sound component so it engages more senses than just vision, just make a good algorithm
memes are fun on tiktok, that is true. Although as with all social media these days, the alg is too good, I hate going down rabbit holes for hours when I could be jogging or playing dnd with my brother.
you're a fool to believe they just gave up the power to control the country. I bet you think the USA is a democra- oh shit yeah you do think that too. Its a plutocracy babe. You dont live in democracy.
Also are you insinuating China doesn't have a democracy, not is capable of self correction? You think westerners have some godgiven ability to be the bestest peoples in da world?
How does having one party rob the country of having a democracy. Democracies dont have to be your shitty splintered capitalist infighting mess you call governments. Not president for life, he can still be democratically removed from office, he just has no term limits. I think no term limits is more democratic anyway.
Heres a fun thought, you acknowledge that the App does have that data collection software as it has been proven by many independent software reviews, so is it worth it for a person, no matter what other country they come from, to betray their own nation’s people and create security risks in order to view and post vines with music?
So what, anything that would damage the US is good, I don't care lol. Also the software may be in part owned by china, but the heads of the western tiktok division are made up of US national security "retirees" lol.
Already hit peak users, a haven for child porn, filled to the brim with tankies that will make sure less extreme individuals jump ship, utter lack of privacy, power mods that control significant number of subs and turning this place into an echo chamber.
tankies that will make sure less extreme individuals jump ship
As opposed to people like you who sticks around in spite of apparently hating the place to the point basing your whole fediverse persona on it being crap that people should leave? 🤦
So is there a "competitor" paying you, or are you just a sad and stupid person with nothing better to do than yucking on people's yum for free?
I'm interested in this place being successful. I'm deeply sorry my observation had led you to imagine fantastic worlds where I'm paid to put it out there.
Ahh right, I can't believe reddit is better while hoping this place gets its collective heads out of their asses and fix shit. Very mutually exclusive shit right there.
Yeah, because people with the ability to improve the platform are going to listen to the insufferable guy shouting about how their favorite place sucks rather than the hundreds if not thousands of people consistently offering constructive criticism 🙄
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Sibbo@sopuli.xyz · 241 pts · 2y
I'd exchange Reddit and X. The rate at which X is going downhill right now just cannot be beaten by anything.
Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 53 pts · 2y
Twitter(/X - such a bullshit crappy name) is the Kmart of web 2.0 companies. Just a husk of what it was and in a massive free fall decline.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y
It's basically a matter of a branded domain name and Mastodon will take over.
Governments and entities like the New York MTA are going to want something they control, rather than something that falls to the whims of some billionaire.
The tech for Mastodon is there. You just needs orgs that care less about reach and who trust people to come to them (like the New York MTA).
Holzkohlen@feddit.de · 46 pts · 2y
Agreed. I mean I never expected Elon to be smart but good god is that dude an idiot. Everyone reading this could 100% do a better job in his shoes.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 2y
If I had bought Twitter back then, I would have just done absolutely nothing and raked in the cash.
clanginator@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Yeah it's pretty hard to screw up as badly as he did, it's actually kinda impressive. You need to be an unhinged egomaniac to pull off what Musk did.
BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That's assuming that his goal is to run a profitable social media company that people respect, enjoy, and that makes profit. However, he's loaded af and can easily pay for the best consultants in the world. Considering that, I think it's possible that he might be reaching his goals, they're just not what we assume they are.
whofearsthenight@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
I've seen varying levels of this general idea that Musk somehow is still playing some 4d chess and the downfall of twitter is the plan, but it's really not. Twitter was already a niche generally. I only know like 2 people IRL who were on twitter, compared to basically everyone on Facebook, for example, and you can check the stats, twitter commanded way more mindspace than it actually had.
And even if the master plan was to kill twitter - so what? This won't stop anything. There is an argument to be made that all of the journalists and what not coalesced over there, but that's just not going to stop happening. It's like if someone wanted to kill instant messaging. "HA HA ICQ, this time I've got you!" Except, it's not the platform that's important, and it's easily replaced.
Even if Elon's plan is "let's federate" it's still an inane way to do it, but this seems like a more likely outcome.
Hanlon again for the win, simplest answer is he's not nearly as smart as anyone pretends.
orphiebaby@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
Came here to say this. X is doing worse than Reddit.
Hubi@feddit.de · 131 pts · 2y
I feel like it's unfair to include TikTok as it had a clear headstart by being a dumpster fire since the very start.
Bananigans@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 2y
Musical.ly certainly was a thing.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 2y
Hey, the rebrand was successful!
Nobody associates it with paedos now and their “take existing videos and put our horrid moving shitty contrasted watermark on it” starting strat worked a dream
SeekPie@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
It has been an dumpster fire before it was even made.
Sheeple@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
And Vine!
cRazi_man@lemm.ee · 92 pts · 2y
Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I've seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they're still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.
Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.
Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit.....but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 2y
if you have been back to reddit, they might have growing numbers (probably due to shitty practices forcing you to use their app instead of mobile browser) etc. but the quality of discussions and the amount of bots just reposting the same comments skyrocketed.
I mean it's a huge site, it won't die, but if you look at it that way, Facebook is still alive, do you have a desire to spend time on that site though?
cRazi_man@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y
Pleased to say I haven't been back to Reddit (except to scrub my entire history there to nuke my account). Reddit quality going completely down the toilet is something seen long before these changes were made. It's really sad to see that companies aren't forced to make better products because people will put time and money into these shit platforms regardless.
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
yeah I already noticed the downhill trend before the API changes but after it really went into a nosedive, expectedly the power users posting good shit just left, so rage bait reposts are the trending things.
ohlaph@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I have been back to reddit to check things out from time to time. The quality has definitely degraded, and their changes to not seeing NSFW stuff without logging in or using their app has me visiting less and less.
The comment section is still nice, but I just don't see the quality it once had.
frezik@midwest.social · 29 pts · 2y
We can take a look at the comment count on major subreddits over time. Using the top 5 most commented listed on Subreddit Stats, and then using Social Rise to see comments per day (go down to "Graph of" and click "comments").
All except Starfield show comments cratering at the beginning of July, and they're not coming back. Obviously, Starfield is a special case given the release of the game. AITAH was also just starting to pick up and then had its jugular cut out. Across the board, there looks to be a 3 or 4 times reduction in comment rates.
Now, perhaps the site is still OK among the more niche subreddits. That'd take a lot longer to analyze. But it's clear the big traffic drivers are not pulling people in anymore.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
While I overall agree this seems to be the case at first glance, I do notice that august there’s a huge drop that correlates with school starting up again. Probably need to compare to previous summers.
Edit: looks like it's still pretty huge even accounting for that
frezik@midwest.social · 1 pts · 2y
The graphs there go back to 2018. There aren't drops anywhere close to what we're seeing.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
Good to know, i was having trouble on mobile with it. Thanks!
I'm glad I left that site. They just view us all as little addicts and have lost any semblance of caring about what made reddit work in the first place.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 2y
If popularity was all that mattered, McDonalds would have Michelin stars.
Sheeple@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
Only a good 0.1% of reddit actually "creates content" with the rest having only engagement via comments. A good 99% of those also don't do anything but lurk.
The people that make the content are also the ones more likely to switch to alternatives.
It's an engagement loop so while the amount of signups and accounts is unchanged, there is simply less content to keep people around and to monetize.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 15 pts · 2y
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DSTGU@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
I believe that s shifting the burden of proof.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 14 pts · 2y
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RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 2y
the burden of proof lays in the eye of the beholder or whatever the quote is. i'm not a lawyer.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
The burden of proof lies in the eyes of the Christian god! And as a fellow Muslim, I can say nothing about it, but He might speak through me and say that Reddit became a place without much new content.
Cipher22@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
If I'm understanding the mythos correctly, those are the same god, so you're covered.
cRazi_man@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 2y
I don't save sources in case of future need for references. I haven't written a thesis on the matter. It came up in a few articles in my tech news RSS feeds. You're welcome to not believe me and I would readily consider contrary information anyone else offers it.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 7 pts · 2y
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Gamey@feddit.de · 4 pts · 2y
Reddit is driven by search traffic and the results got a lot worse since a lot of good posters quit. They lost the content but not the users yet, I think it's just going to take a long time before they truly see the damage in their traffic statistics!
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
The google-Reddit search got really screwed up when the private subs numbered 7-8000. I’m curious if there have been any lingering effects.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah Reddit just became more like Facebook which is disappointing, but not a dumpster fire.
Twitter is a radioactive dumpster fire that's spawning mutant fire rats. There's really no comparison.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
I just have a hard time believing this when the_donald started on reddit. The site has been an incubator for right wing actors for years. Even the infamous Stormfront recognized the opportunities for recruitment there years ago.
nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 2y
No, but we are on lemmy so we obviously don't care how well billion dollar companies are doing profit wise.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
I care insofar as seeing how badly they can screw up
gosling@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 2y
I mean, TikTok was already bad to begin with but what did they do to deserve a spot next to Twitter? Did I miss something? Surely they can't do worse than trying to make their paid only, right?
Sheeple@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 2y
Yeah TikTok is bad but it also works as expected.
Yeah it's the worst algorithm ever, basically spyware, bans LGBT+ people, etc. But that's quite frankly how it always worked.
Sl00k@programming.dev · 29 pts · 2y
My fyp is full of bipoc LGBTQ+ people? Twitter on the other hand tries to feed me right wing news sources and disinformation all the time. There's a spectrum here and TikTok is far on the other side.
Also to be frank the algorithm is by far the best out of any company with a "for you" algorithm. It blows pretty much anything else out of the water entirely.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 6 pts · 2y
Go watch a few truck or bbq tik toks and watch it backslide. Anything that is vaguely a “manly hobby.” You’ll be surprised how quickly Ben Shapiro winds up in front of you.
whofearsthenight@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
I watch more tiktok than I'm proud of, and YouTube is actually way worse for this. Youtube I've actually started using some private browsing for things that I think might turn to Joe Rogan or whatever because on that platform you're like 7 videos from "i'd like to check out some camping videos" to "here's how to protect yourself from the woke mob in the apocalypse which will happen next Tuesday courtesy of Ben Shapiro."
The thing that worries me about tiktok is they're too good at this. It would honestly be extremely easy for them to tip the scales.
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
the internet media is famously skewed right, its a pure fact.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
Totally. It’s just an invisible off ramp every few clicks
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
I have a friend who actively uses youtube for only audio books on literal marxism and they still give him ads for fucking prager U and shit
punseye@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
People rightfully call out TikTok as a spyware because of their ties with CCP, but how exactly are other social media giants and big tech any different as they too have ties with the CIA, FBI etc
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 2y
Basically, most social media reads out everything that is openly accessible, like cookies, address books and contacts, etc.
TikTok goes deeper, it has been watched going into protected files, trying to break encryptions (sometimes being successful).
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
You need to source things instead of just spewing bullshit you hear on the grapevine.
punseye@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y
Damn, didn't know about this, but, what if Big Tech has also been doing this, but with more perfection, without getting caught?
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 2y
TikTok is big tech.
But your question is highly speculative and kind of comes across as bad faith.
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
how is it speculative that big tech steals your data. Google, Amazon, microsoft, every single big internet conglomerate sell your data. Its a fact, and is widely reported.
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
Don't we have a different tiktok than the Chinese one? There are specifically US folks in charge of the non China Tiktok. Wasn't one of the security heads a former US state security agent?
bloubz@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Why do you think it's more spyware than any other big tech mobile app or social media?
And based on my experience getting hooked so fast into while I didn't want to touch it, it seems it has the best algorithm. I'm off it now, like all other social media expect for fediverse, but I can testify on this
Polar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y
Source? because I follow a ton of LGBTQIA+ people without any issue.
euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 2y
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -3 pts · 2y
just because they haven't rolled out the jackboots doesnt mean they haven't deployed some.
saigot@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2y
Idk, I find it's algorithm very easy to control compared to every other social media, its much easy to manipulate. My fyp is full of gay people so idk what you mean by the second statement.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Needed three graphics.
AdmiralShat@programming.dev · 73 pts · 2y
Put Unity somewhere up there for their recent debacle
deus@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 2y
Unity is hors-concours, they've already won this race. None of these social networks have managed to fuck up so badly as to fully destroy their reputations like Unity did.
Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 2y
I don't know. Twitter running rampant as a nazi platform and safe harbor under Elon's tenure/stewardship has been something else. That platform was always a mess/ bad but not to the degree Elon has cranked it up to. It's full blown mania/ hysteria on that platform.
Edit: I miss the days of Twitter when I could've used it as my own personal news ticker/ use it to follow sports and my favorite sports reporters. It's shocking but there are actual uses and use cases for Twitter. It used to not be social media trash.
Weslee@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
An I the only one who thinks this is exactly what he wanted? Hated seeing the western social media trying to block disinformation, so he buys it and let's the right wing extremists have free rein
Mitch404@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y
I don’t think that’s what he wanted initially.
Chinese authority doesn’t like twitter. Tesla was incentivised by the Chinese gouvernement to come to china and grow the EV market there. Tesla had a lot of very nice and attractive loans and business opportunities. China alone is now 32% of sales for Tesla. Muskrat buying twitter and driving it to the ground serve the Chinese interest, and I would not be surprised to hear there was an agreement to something along the lines of “you buy this, you do shit with it, we close our eyes on our loans” from the Chinese.
For the nazis, it’s all about the Tesla factory in Texas. Texas is quite red, when COVID happened and California was closing down Tesla factory in Fremont, Shit-face was opening his new factory in Texas. Democrats were all in for the Covid measures. Going strong with anti-vaxxers and republicans gained him favors in Texas, to be able to use his slaves, sorry employees despite the pandemic.
Down the line, I think this psychopath is only doing what all billionaire does: using his money to make more, more, more, completely ignoring the consequences. The only thing that drives him is making more money. Not with Twitter, but with using twitter to get what he wants…
Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
It's remarkable the similarities between William Randolph Hearst and Elon. Hollywood can finally make its citizen Kane remake/ sequel.
sour@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
what happened to unity
AdmiralShat@programming.dev · 11 pts · 2y
They tried to apply a per install fee and make it retroactive for all games using the Unity Runtime. Meaning games made with Unity even a few years ago who didn't agree to this would be charged each time someone uninstalls and reinstalls the game.
This is the second time they have tried to make retroactive changes, by the way, and they even deleted the part of the TOS that prevented retroactive changes.
It's really just one of many things they have done in the last few years
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
To list out a lot of the many things: They've done forced RTO which is pretty internally disliked, fired a ton of people lately, a bit ago the CEO publicly said anyone who doesn't prioritize monetization are "the biggest fucking idiots", they bought an ad company known for making malware, and they keep getting in bed with military contracts including Lockheed. Oh and they cancelled their example project game Gigaya which I'm still bitter over
AdmiralShat@programming.dev · 2 pts · 2y
Just a minor correction, they actually merged with Iron Source, they didn't just buy them. That means there was a good bit of board carry over, which means Iron Source management is now making decisions at Unity.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
They won this is a fight for the 2nd seed
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org · 73 pts · 2y
Crazy how TikTok don't even seem so bad anymore thanks to the other two completely fucking imploding.
foggy@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 2y
I think Twitter will be the largest fall.
Like, they went from publicly traded household name, used by news sites everywhere... to... well...
chrizbie@lemmy.nz · 46 pts · 2y
Elons shenanigans has to be worse than spez surely
SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 2y
Spez just copies what daddy Musk does, so give it some time
NewPerspective@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 2y
I know lemmy hates Reddit but X is easily taking the cake here. Do you think Elon is respecting ANY of the policies around old user data? If you were EVER on Twitter, Musk is all up in your business.
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 2y
I hesitate to speak for everyone... Okay, now I will. As ex-Redditors, we absolutely hate Reddit because we knew it in the past, and we also know it now. So authoritatively, fuck Reddit and fuck Spez.
(I know not everyone here came from/cares about Reddit)
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
I don't hate Reddit. I love what Reddit can be.
I just can't support support its current trajectory. If they backpedaled settle of the recent decisions I'd return tomorrow, because after spending 3 months here I've found zero communities with enough activity to justify leaving the "everything" feed.
vaalla@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
Same for me.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 2y
I hate reddit, but I always hated reddit, it was always a cesspool. back in the day before the recent admin drama it was really horribly bigoted, and when lots of people jumpped ship recently, the community got real racist real fast
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 31 pts · 2y
That text layout is…well dumpster fire is strong, but it’s definitely a smelly smolder
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 2y
It's just a wastebasket woopsie!
RandomVideos@programming.dev · 28 pts · 2y
I feel like unity is the most likely to die. Their users are way more likely to switch to an alternative than people using reddit
Unity alternatives are also way more known than reddit or twitter alternatives
Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social · 6 pts · 2y
Also, anyone who wanted to leave Twitter, Reddit, or TikTok likely already have
CordanWraith@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 2y
But the alternatives aren't as developed. Godot still isn't great for 3D projects and Unreal is Epic and also has royalty fees like Unity tried to add.
RandomVideos@programming.dev · 3 pts · 2y
Unreal only has a 5% fee on games that made over 1 million USD
Unity wanted to add a 0.20 USD tax for every download after you made 200K USD 200K users(which changes depending on how many downloads your game has and which plan you are using)
Units pricing method could have been easily exploited, game developers would have to pay for people pirating their games, if a free to play game reached those requirments, it could cost them more than the game made, giveaways would cost game developers money and all unity games would have to collect data
CordanWraith@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2y
No, I'm well aware that Unity's model is fucked up.
I'm just saying that I don't consider Unreal a valid alternative, especially as it's owned by Epic who have shown themselves to be far worse than anything Unity has done already, and there are no other 3D engines as good as Unity. I called out Unreal also just because people are saying that Unity shouldn't charge any fees as they think fees are unfair, but then happily recommend Unreal.
Not saying necessarily to keep using it, I'm just saying it's not as simple of a solution as just switching for a lot of devs.
GreenMario@lemm.ee · 0 pts · 2y
Indies yes but the big dick billion dollar in MTX mobile market won't shift at all.
souma@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 2y
wtf is a Kia race
Blastasaurus@lemm.ee · 17 pts · 2y
It's a race in which there are only losers.
WashedOver@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y
So do they all burn or implode in the end like the majority of KIAs?
netburnr@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y
A very easily stolen race, all you need is a USB stick
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
Rip a lil plastic…
Bread@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
Maybe it is Killed In Action?
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 2y
Has to be.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 2y
Xitter is now enabling disinformation intentionally. Put ‘em at the top
Gamey@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y
Well, Tiktok demotes china critical accounts and promotes china friendly ones, people who tried it came to the conclusion that's it's roughly by the factor 10 so they aren't even hiding it!
thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de · 19 pts · 2y
The enshittification of TikTok: https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
Very relevant to all of them
chicagohuman@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
Great article!
ZWho63@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 2y
Yeah i also completely forgot Unity. This "Worst Dumpster Fire" ladder only had 3 spots.
Mossheart@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 2y
Philips coming up fast in 4th place. CAN THEY BEAT TIKTOK?!
FIND OUT TOMORROW!
Toast@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y
what did philips do?
candybrie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Require an account that collects your information to use the hue lights you've already bought and have been using just fine without that.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y
What did TikTok do recently? Reddit and TwittX I know about. Could have added Unity to the mix, even if they’re not social media.
Gamey@feddit.de · 2 pts · 2y
Everything fucked up western social media dose but time two and with a grain of chinese propaganda!
euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2y
expatriado@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
X and Reddit situations are kind of similar, but tiktok is shit for different reasons
someguy3@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
What's up with tiktok?
Kotton@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 2y
Think your not going to be able to skip ads.
Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y
YouTube is already far ahead on that front.
I remember when any ad over 15 seconds was skippable after 5. Now, if I turn adblock off, I may receive dual minute-long unskippable ads, even less than 5 minutes apart on an hour long video.
It's actually more egregious than cable TV
npz@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
I'd place Twitch in that spot before Tiktok as well. Bordering on unusable for years
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y
That's not the issue with Tiktok
someguy3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
So what is the issue with tiktok?
Cheesus@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
What got bumped from the top 3?
Kerrigor@kbin.social · 12 pts · 2y
Facebook
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
But still trailing close in 4th with the metaverse fiasco!
SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2y
And charging for "verification"
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
I don't use TikTok. Is that bad?
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
No. Just look at what friends share with a VPN up in-browser. You’ll get all the cultural context you’ll need lol
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -34 pts · 2y
No matter what this 40 year old boomer ass Lemmy user base says, TikTok is amazing and some people are doing some really incredible things on it. You should give it a shot.
DrDickHandler@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
I'll skip on the China spyware. But thanks.
saigot@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y
China can't really do anything to me personally, us is a much bigger threat.
unphazed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
But the crap going to Saudia Arabia is better? Or to private corps? They all do it, and they all need to be stopped.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 2y
What is China going to do to you?
You should be only worried about all the western spyware your balls are deep in.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 17 pts · 2y
asdfasfsad
saigot@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y
Nah I'd rather keep the influence on my country be as close to 1/3rd all around between the 3 big super powers.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
What's the reason though? If you don't want to "willingly serve up all your data" if it results in literally nothing, why?
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
asdfasfasdf
euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 2y
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
I'd worry more about the US which directly controls the state I live in over the guys chilling 3000 miles away. Its really a false equivalence to compare the two.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
sadfasfsdaf
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
it is if one is far away and the US has active control over all western countries (I assume you live in a US bloc country), I'm going to be way more concerned with the one who can send a CIA agent to rule my death a suicide with two shots in my head.
Sheeple@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Western spyware we agree to willingly in agreements that openly state that your information will be collected.
The problem with TikTok was that they were found to collect more information than they explained in their user agreement.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
Show proof. Stop pulling shit out of your ass because some Redditor said something.
Hoomod@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/06/21/tiktok-confirms-data-china-bytedance-security-cfius/?sh=3add3fb32708
You can literally search "TikTok data"
They said Virginia and Singapore, then whoops, it's actually not
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
So they didn't "collect more information than they explained in their user agreement." You just made that up.
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -2 pts · 2y
Still doesn't disprove her point, spyware is in all of our shit, how is the Chinese shit special?
cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 2y
TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y
Don't you feel your brain rotting and your attention span waning from all of the 15 second hits of dopamine being shoved into your face?
TikTok is not good for your mental well-being.
whofearsthenight@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
This. I use tiktok more than I like, and it's extremely easy to watch an hour or two. Thing is, when you get done, try to remember even like 3% of what you watched.
saigot@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y
Tik tok has had 10min video for quite a while
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 2y
If you're watching nothing but 15 second TikTok's, your algorithm is saying you're a fucking idiot. And I'd have to probably agree based off what you're saying here.
TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y
I don't use TikTok at all and never have. You are the fucking idiot who got hooked on a dopamine drip simulator.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y
So you literally have no idea what it is and what it's about, but here you are running your little mouth. Weren't you raised better than believing what you hear when you easily have the ability to see what it's about yourself? You don't sound too bright.
TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
I know what TikTok is and what it is about. That's why I choose not to use it. You are bright enough to realize that clips from TikTok are posted in other places on the web, right? I've never used crack cocaine either, but I know what it is and what it is about.
TikTok is literally designed to psychologically manipulate teenagers and you fell for it. You sound mad about it, too. Hope it doesn't rot your brain too much before you figure it out, but that doesn't sound likely from your replies.
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Eat tide pods and steal kias. Incredible things
Polar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y
Ya, because most of Lemmy userbase is from Reddit, the "American" website that bullied a kid into killing themselves, because they were "helping" find the boston bomber.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 2y
If that's what you get on your feed, I hate to break it to you... you might be a fucking idiot.
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
I don't use tiktok or any other shit social media like that. I had reddit for the communities and now this place for the same reason...which it's mainly memes at best. Using tiktok makes you a fucking idiot...
seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 2y
Cool ageism.
euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 2y
stewie3128@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
I used TikTok once. Three hours later I didn't realize that it was already midnight. Uninstalled immediately. Never again.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 2y
Unity bailed itself out eh?
morrowind@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 2y
Unity ain't a website
affiliate@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
then how do u explain unity.com?
morrowind@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 2y
you know what I mean
AdmiralShat@programming.dev · 8 pts · 2y
No
In 2019 they also performed a retroactive terms of service change and after the backlash they changed their TOS to basically say "this can never ever happen again"
A few months before this recent dumbfuck decision, they actually went back and removed the part of their TOS and that they couldn't make retroactive changes to the TOS and then hoped everyone forgot.
What they've done this time was a calculated business decision where they knew they'd piss people off and just expected most to suck it up and deal with it like they have every other time. They calculated very poorly here though as this was just the straw the fucked the camel raw and everyone is jumping ship. They have proven repeatedly they aren't an engine development prioritized company anymore, they have proven repeatedly that have no issues lying to paying customers and doing shady backdoor shit.
What they did a few days ago was a "whoopsie we tried to fuck you again and it didnt work so we'llwalk it back for now" and for the second time have promised that this retroactive change can't happen again. A second promise days after they broke that promise.
Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 2y
Not really. They fucked up their business contracts/ reputations and there's still a massive push to leave them in dust/ past. There's no undoing how massively they fucked up.
Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 2y
I don't think I've ever seen so many wish to devalue the companies at the same time. Let's not forget about robinhood also. I can't wait until reddit IPOs to short the shit out of it. You have to know their valuation is a farce and bullshit. The numbers are totally cooked there.
Edit: stupid autocorrect
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y
Unity needs to be on this leaderboard.
n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 2y
Nah unity is the monk who pours gas over itself and sits there quietly burning to death
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 2y
OP, social media usage is down across the board. These platforms won't truly die until the next cycle of growth. Autumn? Winter? Usually gaming goes up when the cold weather comes around. Perhaps we will see growth then. We ought to be making sure we make communities for each new game that comes out, if an instance creators goal is to attract a lot of people. If they prefer quality, well, keep on this course. Lemmy is amazing.
ALostInquirer@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
Speaking of, wouldn't that be a good time for a general games/gaming instance to spin up then to play host to those communities?
Gamey@feddit.de · 6 pts · 2y
Reddit sucks but xitter and tiktok easily rub the floor with it!
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Brought to you by Kia: Who better than a company who can't fix a key switch to cover dumpster fires! Kia: Movement That Inspires Car Theft.
HawlSera@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
We really need to get people to get the word out on Lemmy.
TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 2y
I'm on the fence on this one because on one hand, more content is always a good thing. On the other, more people will bring the attention of corporate capitalists
Gabu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
They already have, just take a look at the increased number of concern trolls, blatant advertisement, etc.
CoolBeance@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Thanks for the new term I learned today
Omniraptor@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
isn't threads just facebook trying to muscle in on the fediverse
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · 0 pts · 2y
Its a heavy mixup, but either lemmy dies or its going to get better. Federation has seen a dramatic increase in usership, so I'm thinking its getting bigger. Its inevitable that capitalists are going to see us anyway. We just have to tell them to fuck off. I don't really know what to do besides that lol.
Eventlesstew@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 2y
I’m betting reddit, fuck spez
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
At first I was like "where's Facebook?", but then I answered myself: too irrelevant to the people voting for them to even remember it still exists 😄
ctang1@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Since I am side loading Apollo still, Reddit overall is still good. I currently don’t see much change because of this. However, when my RedditAPI key is revoked and I’m unable to generate a new API key, there is no way I can keep using it. I’ve got 5 different Reddit apps on my phone, including Apollo, and they all suck.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social · 12 pts · 2y
Dude just ditch Reddit. They’re getting users to pay people to shitpost and are taking a cut, they also removed the ability to opt out of tracking for ads. All in like 3 days!
euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 2y
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
China isn't hostile, afaik only the US has been hostile. And claiming that tiktok did that is equivalent to saying random American company is responsible for bombing Iraq
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y
Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
Right, that would make a lot of sense to do about the country that's openly hostile to you. Oh, China has territory disputes with neighbors? The US will literally fucking bomb you to nothing for your oil, and/or stage a false flag coup to overthrow your government if they won't sell them oil. We have also used corporate espionage to rewrite the laws of several South American countries into ineffectiveness, for the benefit of a fruit company. The two are not remotely comparable on foreign policy.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y
Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
Literally none of that is true. If it is, provide a source. Who has China gone to full scale war with for their oil? Genocide was made up by a far right grifter named Adrian zenz. You've fallen hardcore American propaganda bro.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y
Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
No, it doesn't. Taiwan seceded from them, they aren't trying to colonize it. America bombing Iraq and destabilizing SA governments is killing for oil. Buying oil from Russia is not that.
obinice@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
What has China done now?
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2y
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Why is tiktok so high up, It feels like regular shitty social media, not nearly as bad or boring as instagram, facebook, and metaverse.
wait yeah why is tiktok above metaverse lol
T1325@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
I think as a format memes are very fun on TikTok cause they're expected to always have a sound component so it engages more senses than just vision, just make a good algorithm
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · 0 pts · 2y
memes are fun on tiktok, that is true. Although as with all social media these days, the alg is too good, I hate going down rabbit holes for hours when I could be jogging or playing dnd with my brother.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -3 pts · 2y
ever heard of the patriot act, sis?
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -3 pts · 2y
you're a fool to believe they just gave up the power to control the country. I bet you think the USA is a democra- oh shit yeah you do think that too. Its a plutocracy babe. You dont live in democracy.
Also are you insinuating China doesn't have a democracy, not is capable of self correction? You think westerners have some godgiven ability to be the bestest peoples in da world?
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · -3 pts · 2y
How does having one party rob the country of having a democracy. Democracies dont have to be your shitty splintered capitalist infighting mess you call governments. Not president for life, he can still be democratically removed from office, he just has no term limits. I think no term limits is more democratic anyway.
So what, anything that would damage the US is good, I don't care lol. Also the software may be in part owned by china, but the heads of the western tiktok division are made up of US national security "retirees" lol.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y
halfempty@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
Great article. Well worth reading.
StalksEveryone@futurology.today · 1 pts · 2y
i got 50 says threads pulls a upset in the fourth quarter
Neve8028@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
As if anyone uses threads.
StalksEveryone@futurology.today · 1 pts · 2y
you gotta think about the odds
Lord_McAlister@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I got 40 flurbos on X being trash.
Veez@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2y
Oh great! The TikTok haters escaped from Reddit too!
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
ITT: Everybody ignoring the screwed up state of fediverse .
WindowCreep@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Explain plz, new to this
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
Already hit peak users, a haven for child porn, filled to the brim with tankies that will make sure less extreme individuals jump ship, utter lack of privacy, power mods that control significant number of subs and turning this place into an echo chamber.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
As opposed to people like you who sticks around in spite of apparently hating the place to the point basing your whole fediverse persona on it being crap that people should leave? 🤦
So is there a "competitor" paying you, or are you just a sad and stupid person with nothing better to do than yucking on people's yum for free?
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
I'm interested in this place being successful. I'm deeply sorry my observation had led you to imagine fantastic worlds where I'm paid to put it out there.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah, ShittyRedditWasBetter, I'm sure you're only expressing concern out of a genuine wish for improvement, that's why you chose that handle 🙄
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
Ahh right, I can't believe reddit is better while hoping this place gets its collective heads out of their asses and fix shit. Very mutually exclusive shit right there.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah, because people with the ability to improve the platform are going to listen to the insufferable guy shouting about how their favorite place sucks rather than the hundreds if not thousands of people consistently offering constructive criticism 🙄
WindowCreep@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I did hear about the child porn thing, but unfortunately that's the infancy of most new nowadays
Annoyed about the potential echo chamber thing as that's that and bots is why I dropped reddit
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
No, real companies pay people to quickly deal with that shit and keep the exposure far far lower.
As far as bots, go check the posters in big popular subs. This place already is using bots I force to repost reddit content.