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Tja. In den linken Spaces gehen Leute rum und warnen, dass man sich vor dem KI-Scraping schützen muss, wegen Datenschutz und Kapitalismus. Und jetzt werden irgendwie rechtslastige Medien als Quellen bevorzugt. Schlau eingefädelt.

Copyright. They mustn't make a copy. There is legal precedent that confirms it's okay to transform the copy you bought into digital format. The Internet Archive relies a lot on that. I think they actually litigated it in the first place. So that's why the copyright heads are going so absolutely apeshit. If no one's charging you rent for using some data, then it's "unethical".

Ok, aber wenn du mit dem anderen Bericht nicht gut findest (zu Recht), warum suchst du dann nicht einen Besseren?

Das Zitat hier so zusammenhanglos zu Posten ist nur verwirrend. Ich habe den Link nur gelesen, weil ich wissen wollte wie blöde das eigentlich berichtet wird. Oft würde ich mir nicht mehr die Mühe machen, wenn ich so ein Zitat im Thread sehe und auf andere Quellen ausweichen.

I'm not sure how much sense this makes for European citizens. What the commission wants is that Google should direct more users to European competitors rather than its own services. For example regarding price comparison sites. The major German competitor is Idealo, owned by right-wing media empire Axel Springer. Some of this seems to be only about serving the interests of our European oligarchs.

Yes, but that only puts an upper limit on the price that anyone would be willing to pay.

It's like this: Both companies estimate how much money they expect to make from using those servers for their own purposes. In Mistral's case, that might be a negative amount. Regardless, Microsoft obviously can put the capacity to better use. So they can offer to rent it from Mistral for more than Mistral believes it can make on its own. Basically, MS passes on some of their profits to Mistral.

Continental Europe had worse copyright laws since the 19th century. The US founding fathers were enlightenment age idealists, hence the copyright clause. European copyright laws were created by authoritarian empires. It's a major reason why we can't do tech. And I suspect also why Europe can't answer to the dominance of US culture.

Legal theft like the Mickey-Mouse-Protection-Law is controversial in the US. In the EU, it goes by without comment. That ends up giving casual observers an exactly reverse impression of the legal and social situation. Same for a lot of issues.