LOL, falling back on “That’s propaganda!”. The one lame trope you had yet to pull out. Well, calling any argument or fact that favors the west “propaganda” is also propaganda so there! I sure got you good.
OK, you can continue to believe the US has particularly moral ground troops whereas Russians are like orcs.
However, I’m done with this bullshit. You win, or whatever.
As I said, this isn't a debate. But I agree with you that we have nothing to say to each other.
Yeah, you just went on a whole roundabout justification of other people doing it, that's very different. Here's a hint: someone who wasn't racist would have said "I never called anyone an orc" instead of doing that.
I never said the US is “acceptable”.
No, you've just made it clear that you can accept its existence and not the existence of Russia.
I have only spoken in favor of a single attribute of US ground troops
You uncritically repeated a single attribute of US ground troop propaganda, actually.
Back to the ad hominems, and the misquoting.
There is only so “great” one can be at debating when the “arguments” are as bad and fabricated as yours.
This isn't a "debate", I thought I had been pretty clear about that. I don't care to "debate" with someone who thinks America is better than Russia.
Yes, my point was both that I didn’t say the thing you claimed was racist, and that it wouldn’t have been racist anyways.
Yeah, you said they weren't a race? So it's not racist to call an ethnicity orcs, because ethnicity is not race? That's barely an argument, though it is a racist one.
And, again, you didn’t bother arguing the point, you just went for yet another ad hominem. That’s three if you count calling me racist.
You are being racist. Even if you had said nothing else, the only reason to believe the US is acceptable in any way while Russia isn't is racism and chauvinism. As I said above, you did say something else and it was racist.
Cancer is better than Russia, so that’s no great achievement. My comment was that there is not much good to say about Russia. I notice you didn’t point out something I missed, you just went straight to an ad hominem.
I suspect all this "ad hominem" nonsense is posturing, but if you really think you're doing some great debate here, don't bother replying. I have no interest in "debating" with an American chauvinist with a Russia obsession, which I thought I had made clear with my previous replies.
I’m in China dipshit what part of Chinese made house did you not understand.
The funniest thing about these types of people is that they're so completely unable to conceptualize the existence of people outside "the west" that you can tell them "I'm Chinese and I live in a Chinese house" and they will still insist you're "in the west".
The fact that you think the US is better than Russia says enough about your imperial chauvinism, in my opinion. There's only one part of this comment I'll even bother replying to.
I never said anything about orc people. Russian infantry have a reputation for brutality towards civilians and it’s earned. They don’t even really try to hide it. Russian isn’t a “race”. Also, what do you expect when Russia slaughters civilians wholesale and relies almost entirely on “meat wave” tactics. Whether the comparison to orcs is racist can be debated, but it’s clear where it comes from.
You barely even took a sentence to go from "I didn't call them orc people" to defending calling them orc people. Again, I don't know who you think you're fooling with these kinds of rhetorical contortions.
It’s crazy to cry about a school full of Iranian kids getting blown up but laugh at a base of 28 year olds trying to escape poverty who are going through the same thing.
Are you fucking serious? lmao. "I hate 'campists', BTW US soldiers are the most moral in the world unlike the soldiers of the evil orc people who are the enemies of the US." You're nothing but a racist and an American nationalist (I repeat myself). Really making it obvious why you had a problem with US soldiers specifically being criticized.
I'm (not) sorry to tell you this, but US soldiers are not more moral than Russian soldiers (a country which has done a fraction of the damage the US has done if even that) and CERTAINLY not more moral than Chinese soldiers who haven't gone to war in 40+ years.
And before you tell me you didn't say they were moral, you're not fooling anyone when you try to sneak it in with arguments about comparing "reputations".
The difference is that Russia isn't trying to control the entire world. Hence "the empire".
Edit: America is the primary source of suffering in the world, along with its allies. I don't really care about Russia and bringing it up is a weak deflection.
If they wanted to live, they shouldn't have signed up to kill people for the empire. Instead of following orders, they can refuse them. Yankee nationalists cry about it in the comments.
If they wanted to live, they shouldn't have signed up to kill people for the empire. Instead of following orders, they can refuse them. Yankee nationalists cry about it in the comments.
Your entire point is that the criticism is "dumb" because it could be applied to other soldiers. Yet you are well aware of why specifically American soldiers are being criticized.
Don't pretend you're not trying to get the last word, lol.
OK, you can continue to believe the US has particularly moral ground troops whereas Russians are like orcs.
As I said, this isn't a debate. But I agree with you that we have nothing to say to each other.
Yeah, you just went on a whole roundabout justification of other people doing it, that's very different. Here's a hint: someone who wasn't racist would have said "I never called anyone an orc" instead of doing that.
No, you've just made it clear that you can accept its existence and not the existence of Russia.
You uncritically repeated a single attribute of US ground troop propaganda, actually.
This isn't a "debate", I thought I had been pretty clear about that. I don't care to "debate" with someone who thinks America is better than Russia.
Yeah, you said they weren't a race? So it's not racist to call an ethnicity orcs, because ethnicity is not race? That's barely an argument, though it is a racist one.
You are being racist. Even if you had said nothing else, the only reason to believe the US is acceptable in any way while Russia isn't is racism and chauvinism. As I said above, you did say something else and it was racist.
I suspect all this "ad hominem" nonsense is posturing, but if you really think you're doing some great debate here, don't bother replying. I have no interest in "debating" with an American chauvinist with a Russia obsession, which I thought I had made clear with my previous replies.
The funniest thing about these types of people is that they're so completely unable to conceptualize the existence of people outside "the west" that you can tell them "I'm Chinese and I live in a Chinese house" and they will still insist you're "in the west".
The fact that you think the US is better than Russia says enough about your imperial chauvinism, in my opinion. There's only one part of this comment I'll even bother replying to.
You barely even took a sentence to go from "I didn't call them orc people" to defending calling them orc people. Again, I don't know who you think you're fooling with these kinds of rhetorical contortions.
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Are you fucking serious? lmao. "I hate 'campists', BTW US soldiers are the most moral in the world unlike the soldiers of the evil orc people who are the enemies of the US." You're nothing but a racist and an American nationalist (I repeat myself). Really making it obvious why you had a problem with US soldiers specifically being criticized.
I'm (not) sorry to tell you this, but US soldiers are not more moral than Russian soldiers (a country which has done a fraction of the damage the US has done if even that) and CERTAINLY not more moral than Chinese soldiers who haven't gone to war in 40+ years.
And before you tell me you didn't say they were moral, you're not fooling anyone when you try to sneak it in with arguments about comparing "reputations".
Thank you for listening to me when I said "Yankee nationalists cry about it in the comments", that was very polite of you.
The difference is that Russia isn't trying to control the entire world. Hence "the empire".
Edit: America is the primary source of suffering in the world, along with its allies. I don't really care about Russia and bringing it up is a weak deflection.
Who signed up to murder for the empire. And now some of them have been killed as a consequence.
If they wanted to live, they shouldn't have signed up to kill people for the empire. Instead of following orders, they can refuse them. Yankee nationalists cry about it in the comments.
If they wanted to live, they shouldn't have signed up to kill people for the empire. Instead of following orders, they can refuse them. Yankee nationalists cry about it in the comments.
This is a left unity comm, not an anarchist comm. Different opinions on the nature and purpose of the state are allowed and expected.
You're going to be able to tell who works for a defense contractor by who is bothered by this meme.
You're going to be able to tell who works for a defense contractor by who is bothered by this meme.
Your entire point is that the criticism is "dumb" because it could be applied to other soldiers. Yet you are well aware of why specifically American soldiers are being criticized.