Then it's your personal property. You, as the solitary laborer, own 100% of the means of production. Effectively, no different from what would happen today in capitalism for a private owner using a private property to do whatever with. It's not that hard, and none of this leads to some amazing gotcha moment for you.
The differences come when you have other workers. They aren't just employees, paid a set wage, with all of the power still in the hands of the owner. They are stakeholders, with a real, meaningful share of the profits and the decision making.
Yes? Once they start employing other individuals, it goes from personal goods to private goods, and those other individuals who use the factory (the means of production) should have a percentage of ownership in said factory. That's.... That's how this works, yes.
Maybe we need to settle into some kind of middle ground, where people are allowed to own stuff
You're right that we shouldn't necessarily be looking at extreme ends of any spectrum, but this isn't a thing. Communism has issue with private goods - goods owned BY A COMPANY/STATE used to make profit. It has no issue with PERSONAL goods - things an individual owns and uses.
I get the knee jerk reaction to the extreme positions, but it's best to characterize both correctly, instead of relying on literally the propaganda talking point of "there's no personal owners under communism".
My mother wonders why I have such a vendetta against advertisements. She got an ad on a YouTube video convincing her with a onslaught of fake pop-ups she had to update her PDF reader. Lord knows what would have happened if she had clicked it. If the only way to receive your product is to watch an ad, I'm going somewhere else full atop.
This was me, last week lol. Already had the card, but criminally underused it. I love philosophy, but haven't read most of the actual works, so I picked up some Camus and Kafka. Just finished The Fall, and I'm so glad to have done so.
I also signed up for Libby, thinking audiobooks on hikes would be dope, but so far my mind wanders too much to absorb the words, so that's been challenging.
We're like pandas in captivity. We'll fuck if the conditions are right. They haven't been right in a loooooong time. A little bit of enrichment in our enclosures would help tremendously.
You're listing specific examples that literally no one has a problem with. Yes, if you're moving large equipment you need a large tool to do so. The general public doesn't do this, like... Ever. The dude in the photo has almost certainly never towed anything with it. These kinds of vehicles serve a purpose, but the vast majority of them are sold to people who will NEVER use it for that purpose, who just take up excess room in lots and on the streets, rolling around with visibility that makes a fucking TANK look like it's got a clear line of sight.
There's a whole host of political and cultural reasons that these vehicles are as popular as they are. Almost none of it is actual, practical requirement. No one cares about the worker using the tool to do a job, we're pissed at the pavement princesses who drive around like they own the place without doing an honest day's work in their lives. Hope that cleared some of the confusion up.
To me it's like... Piracy is ethically neutral. Not really a good thing not really a bad thing. Streaming services are dealing with the devil, and my name's not Faust, so I'm out. Pure evil.
Yeah, I pretty much hung up my flag for a few years. It was good, you could find the thing you wanted at a reasonable price.
Now, on principle, the only streaming services I will pay for are independent ones. Dropout and nebula off the top of my head. Sorry, Netflix et al, not sorry in the slightest.
I mean, both sides DO suck. But the decision being made boils down to which side you think has the best chance of leading to an eventual outcome that doesn't suck. I'm not voting for a party I like, because frankly that doesn't exist as a viable option, but I'm not going to not vote just because neither side is better than a 3/10. I'd rather the 3/10 than the 1/10.
I think there's real value in being honest about your feelings. The people who represent us need to know we think they suck. The people around us need to feel like others have the same struggles we do. The space for nuance does exist.
I like the whole "publicly hanged for treason" thing.
They're actively eroding the bread supply and making the circuses harder and harder to access. We know where that leads.
I confess I didn't see the bit about the gif so I guess
I ain't seen shit before he tossed the stacks. Not my money, not my business, not my problem, and I SURE don't talk to cops. Thanks for the tip, bruh.
Then it's your personal property. You, as the solitary laborer, own 100% of the means of production. Effectively, no different from what would happen today in capitalism for a private owner using a private property to do whatever with. It's not that hard, and none of this leads to some amazing gotcha moment for you.
The differences come when you have other workers. They aren't just employees, paid a set wage, with all of the power still in the hands of the owner. They are stakeholders, with a real, meaningful share of the profits and the decision making.
Yes? Once they start employing other individuals, it goes from personal goods to private goods, and those other individuals who use the factory (the means of production) should have a percentage of ownership in said factory. That's.... That's how this works, yes.
You're right that we shouldn't necessarily be looking at extreme ends of any spectrum, but this isn't a thing. Communism has issue with private goods - goods owned BY A COMPANY/STATE used to make profit. It has no issue with PERSONAL goods - things an individual owns and uses.
I get the knee jerk reaction to the extreme positions, but it's best to characterize both correctly, instead of relying on literally the propaganda talking point of "there's no personal owners under communism".
Yes.
I'm glad you realized your comment missed the point entirely.
And if you see anyone shoplifting from Walmart, no you didn't.
I had a dope-ass cream colored shirt from my favorite band, Caligula's Horse. Was devastated when it got destroyed. Now back to all black stuff...
My mother wonders why I have such a vendetta against advertisements. She got an ad on a YouTube video convincing her with a onslaught of fake pop-ups she had to update her PDF reader. Lord knows what would have happened if she had clicked it. If the only way to receive your product is to watch an ad, I'm going somewhere else full atop.
This was me, last week lol. Already had the card, but criminally underused it. I love philosophy, but haven't read most of the actual works, so I picked up some Camus and Kafka. Just finished The Fall, and I'm so glad to have done so.
I also signed up for Libby, thinking audiobooks on hikes would be dope, but so far my mind wanders too much to absorb the words, so that's been challenging.
We're like pandas in captivity. We'll fuck if the conditions are right. They haven't been right in a loooooong time. A little bit of enrichment in our enclosures would help tremendously.
You're listing specific examples that literally no one has a problem with. Yes, if you're moving large equipment you need a large tool to do so. The general public doesn't do this, like... Ever. The dude in the photo has almost certainly never towed anything with it. These kinds of vehicles serve a purpose, but the vast majority of them are sold to people who will NEVER use it for that purpose, who just take up excess room in lots and on the streets, rolling around with visibility that makes a fucking TANK look like it's got a clear line of sight.
There's a whole host of political and cultural reasons that these vehicles are as popular as they are. Almost none of it is actual, practical requirement. No one cares about the worker using the tool to do a job, we're pissed at the pavement princesses who drive around like they own the place without doing an honest day's work in their lives. Hope that cleared some of the confusion up.
To me it's like... Piracy is ethically neutral. Not really a good thing not really a bad thing. Streaming services are dealing with the devil, and my name's not Faust, so I'm out. Pure evil.
Yeah, I pretty much hung up my flag for a few years. It was good, you could find the thing you wanted at a reasonable price.
Now, on principle, the only streaming services I will pay for are independent ones. Dropout and nebula off the top of my head. Sorry, Netflix et al, not sorry in the slightest.
Easier. Cheaper. A better experience. There's no reason to keep dealing with these particular devils at all.
I mean, both sides DO suck. But the decision being made boils down to which side you think has the best chance of leading to an eventual outcome that doesn't suck. I'm not voting for a party I like, because frankly that doesn't exist as a viable option, but I'm not going to not vote just because neither side is better than a 3/10. I'd rather the 3/10 than the 1/10.
I think there's real value in being honest about your feelings. The people who represent us need to know we think they suck. The people around us need to feel like others have the same struggles we do. The space for nuance does exist.
Oh, simple. It's never about the issue, it's about the opposition.