Yes, I'm a huge fan of the third wave. In my opinion, the song Sound System by Operation Ivy is the perfect blend. Is it punk? Yes! Is it ska? Also yes!
Preach, I quit black metal t shirts ten years ago and haven't looked back. Unless of course there is no other option, or the colour is particularly crap
Is it weird that I just thought about white goth aesthetic as a parallel to those all white PC builds? I don't think I've seen 'white goth theme' done before and am kinda curious if it would look good.
Arguably many variants of the older, harajuku gothic lolita style can/have also been done in primarily white or lighter colors.
This is a more modern dress and pic, but I think you could find examples of similar going back to at least the 90s:
... there's also now... clown core, and clown goth, but ... just no, nope, you're gonna have to personally choose to look for that, I'm not just gonna force you to see it.
EDIT:
I suppose if we carry forward trends in PC case styling... to fashion... well, we would somehow have to end up with dresses or suits with wood grain pattern elements or accents.
... Not sure if that exists yet.
Can you make a ruffled fringe out of wood, lol?
Or like, wood grain patterned corset, you know, the trunk?
Xyla did a good job with that, the details on the bottom are actually inset pices of wood. Still quite stiff but looked better than the carbon fibre one imo.
I had no idea all those styles! Honestly, thank you. It was one of those things where I've never really looked it up or thought of it, and of course it's been done. Doesn't look all that bad. Not quite what I was thinking, but JUST white would be kinda... I dunno. Wouldn't work without a little contrast.
It has been done, sometimes with additional flavors (Victorian inspired, visual-kei inspired...). Google: "White Goth". Also "White Goth WGT" to see outfits people have worn during the Wave-Gotik-Treffen.
There's also a pop music aesthetic called 'bubble goth' or 'bubblegum goth', as exemplified in Army of Love music video by Kerli.
I have a colleague who’s into metal. Always wears a band shirt, always in black. As you’d expect. Except on VERY rare days where she runs out of those or if it’s indeed just too hot to wear black.
It’s downright jarring to see her in anything except black. Looks like a completely different person.
I do imagine it’s nice to be a female metal fan. Never have to worry about what to wear or what colors to match 😂
There was a brief era in the 2000's where bands from pop-punk to metal-core released super bright coloured shirts (like fluro-bright) with over the top cartoon artwork, it was a nice change.
Also you can get pink metal shorts/jumpers that go pretty hard (i have only seen these worn by men though)
That must’ve been quite a shock for the average metalhead, fluorescent shirts :D
As a guy who loves bright rainbow shit, I certainly would be the weirdo opting for pink over black.
Funny enough the colleague I mentioned supposedly has a fully pastel pink decorated house. Metal on the outside, Barbie on the inside! I sure do love the dichotomy.
For reference, they looked like this:
(Although these pictures dont do the colours justice, some looked straight up radioactive neon like they woukd glow in the dark)
I know a woman who went goth specifically for that reason. And it's why I stick to a lot of black in my clothes and cosmetics. Black lipstick goes with everything
Could probably just take a black shirt and smother it in sunscreen. Apparently, you would want "mineral sunscreen", which aims to reflect the UV light rather than just absorbing it.
No guarantees that it's actually still black afterwards, though. 🙃
I enjoy the wool sports coat with long sleeve starched white shirt and the pencil thin black tie and fedora hat. While listening to the sweet voice of queen Ella singing the Blues and drinking a martini.
No, white clothing does reflect more heat than black clothing. However the answer to which is better to wear in hot weather is "it's complicated", the TL;DR is that for tight clothes white is better, for loose clothing black and white are the same.
So the fit of the clothing is actually more important than the colour. However, if you are going to be wearing tight-fitting clothing, then stick with white. Fabrics with texture – such as seersucker or pique, a fabric often used in sports polo shirts – also help to lift clothing off your skin, rather than staying snug and tight-fitting.
I think it also depends on how hot it is, since anything more reflective (a white shirt) is also more insulating. So if it's just kind of hot out, black would probably be better.
Colors work by which parts of the light spectrum get absorbed and which get reflected. A shirt that absorbs most wavelengths, but largely reflects green, will look green.
And in that same vein, colors will appear darker, if less light is reflected in general. So, a white shirt may reflect 90+% of light, whereas a black shirt may absorb 90+% of light.
And ultimately, absorption means that the light's energy is turned into warmth. So yeah, a darker shirt heats up more in the sun.
For me it's cat fur - if I so much as THINK about my cats, my black t-shirts are absolutely blanketed. No amount of brushing or lint rolling is sufficient to eliminate the problem, so I just don't wear black.
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hOrni@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 69d
That's why I stopped listening to metal. Too hot in the summer.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 69d
Just listen to ska in the summer and metal the rest of the year
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 68d
Funk, it's basically thrash but with a wah pedal. And more purple shirts. And black people 👍
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 68d
I listen to funk in September, metal in October and November, Christmas songs in December, and Irish music in March.
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 68d
I also listen to Christmas songs in December.
And I listen to Irish music too.
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 68d
I like the punk end of ska; or maybe it's the ska end of punk....
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 67d
That's called third-wave ska, also called ska punk.
It wasn't the end of ska because arguably there's been a fourth wave since then
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
Yes, I'm a huge fan of the third wave. In my opinion, the song Sound System by Operation Ivy is the perfect blend. Is it punk? Yes! Is it ska? Also yes!
skooma_king@piefed.social · 4 pts · 68d
So long and thanks for all the shoes…
axx@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 68d
And then you can listen to NoComply year round.
mmmm@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 69d
Just paint your metal white and your problem will be solved.
nyctre@piefed.social · 35 pts · 69d
Yes! I agree 100%. That's why I buy non black tshirts nowadays. These are the latest acquisitions:
Yob
Death
Cult of Luna
Olap@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 68d
Preach, I quit black metal t shirts ten years ago and haven't looked back. Unless of course there is no other option, or the colour is particularly crap
chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 68d
White is not very flattering to the average metalhead figure, and also does not hide spilled beer
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 68d
Or blood.
pigup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
in
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Same.
ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 68d
Is it weird that I just thought about white goth aesthetic as a parallel to those all white PC builds? I don't think I've seen 'white goth theme' done before and am kinda curious if it would look good.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 68d
You're close. Not 'white goth'...
Pastel Goth:
Arguably many variants of the older, harajuku gothic lolita style can/have also been done in primarily white or lighter colors.
This is a more modern dress and pic, but I think you could find examples of similar going back to at least the 90s:
... there's also now... clown core, and clown goth, but ... just no, nope, you're gonna have to personally choose to look for that, I'm not just gonna force you to see it.
EDIT:
I suppose if we carry forward trends in PC case styling... to fashion... well, we would somehow have to end up with dresses or suits with wood grain pattern elements or accents.
... Not sure if that exists yet.
Can you make a ruffled fringe out of wood, lol?
Or like, wood grain patterned corset, you know, the trunk?
Leaf ears instead of cat ears?
Bonsai Core? Bonsai Goth?
Ok, pretty sure I'm delerious, time for bed now.
bequirtle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
lol
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 67d
sonuvabitch, it exists, a literally wooden dress.
... damn.
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev · 3 pts · 67d
Xyla did a good job with that, the details on the bottom are actually inset pices of wood. Still quite stiff but looked better than the carbon fibre one imo.
ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 68d
I had no idea all those styles! Honestly, thank you. It was one of those things where I've never really looked it up or thought of it, and of course it's been done. Doesn't look all that bad. Not quite what I was thinking, but JUST white would be kinda... I dunno. Wouldn't work without a little contrast.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 68d
There are quite a lot of different styles, certainly more than I am aware of, but yeah, happy to share =D
daggermoon@piefed.world · 2 pts · 68d
pastel goth is underrated
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 67d
Agreed!
I think its neat.
HairyHarry@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 68d
Spoiler: It doesn't
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 3 pts · 68d
Hummakavula?!
bizzle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 68d
Catholocism does slap pretty hard aesthetically but I don't personally hold to that form of idolatry.
HairyHarry@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 68d
FYI: Those are not Catholics. They were the bosses of the neo-revelationist UFO cult "Fiat Lux".
bizzle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 68d
Woah I've never heard of them but I'm about to now. Thanks!
Katrisia@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 67d
It has been done, sometimes with additional flavors (Victorian inspired, visual-kei inspired...). Google: "White Goth". Also "White Goth WGT" to see outfits people have worn during the Wave-Gotik-Treffen.
There's also a pop music aesthetic called 'bubble goth' or 'bubblegum goth', as exemplified in Army of Love music video by Kerli.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 68d
White metal, the ultimate underground you haven't heard of yet, you poser
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 68d
I think that's called Pantera
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 68d
Dammit, that got me lol. That's a literal lol right there. Fuck me, that was a good one
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 16 pts · 68d
That's not the problem, since she is hot anyway.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 68d
I have a colleague who’s into metal. Always wears a band shirt, always in black. As you’d expect. Except on VERY rare days where she runs out of those or if it’s indeed just too hot to wear black.
It’s downright jarring to see her in anything except black. Looks like a completely different person.
I do imagine it’s nice to be a female metal fan. Never have to worry about what to wear or what colors to match 😂
JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 68d
There was a brief era in the 2000's where bands from pop-punk to metal-core released super bright coloured shirts (like fluro-bright) with over the top cartoon artwork, it was a nice change.
Also you can get pink metal shorts/jumpers that go pretty hard (i have only seen these worn by men though)
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 68d
That must’ve been quite a shock for the average metalhead, fluorescent shirts :D
As a guy who loves bright rainbow shit, I certainly would be the weirdo opting for pink over black.
Funny enough the colleague I mentioned supposedly has a fully pastel pink decorated house. Metal on the outside, Barbie on the inside! I sure do love the dichotomy.
JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 67d
For reference, they looked like this:
(Although these pictures dont do the colours justice, some looked straight up radioactive neon like they woukd glow in the dark)
FunStuffIsFun@eviltoast.org · 2 pts · 67d
Mid 2000s mallcore. Hated it then, am nostalgic for it now. Definitely guilty pleasure music haha
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
Those are awesome! Definitely would’ve worn a few of those back in the day.
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
Nice, dinosaur comics reference
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 67d
I know a woman who went goth specifically for that reason. And it's why I stick to a lot of black in my clothes and cosmetics. Black lipstick goes with everything
kamen@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 68d
Even if it's not about the heat, I want some diversity. Black gets boring at one point, so I get other colours any time I can.
gatohaus@eviltoast.org · 6 pts · 67d
Agreed!
For variety, I sometimes switch it up with charcoal, ebony, or obsidian.
But for special occasions I'll break out the soulcrusher's Vantablack.
MoonRaven@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 67d
I don't know. I wear black, pastel black, broken black, dark black and 50 shades of black. Plenty of options.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 13 pts · 67d
Lets engineer a shirt that looks black in the visible spectrum but is white in everything else.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 67d
You could do that, unfortunately solar irradiance is highest in the visible spectrum.
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 66d
Could probably just take a black shirt and smother it in sunscreen. Apparently, you would want "mineral sunscreen", which aims to reflect the UV light rather than just absorbing it.
No guarantees that it's actually still black afterwards, though. 🙃
eah@programming.dev · 12 pts · 68d
Anarchists at a summer protest: "WHY DID WE CHOOSE BLACK?! WHYYYYY"
Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 68d
synae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 68d
Nah, it's a lifestyle, I'm committed
hopesdead@startrek.website · 8 pts · 69d
I have a old Sucide Silence shirt that is the depiction of a nude woman covered with long hair hugging a skeleton that is white.
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 69d
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 68d
the only white shirt metalheads have is reserved for the next GWAR concert
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 67d
You mean my red GWAR shirts?
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 67d
Well sure they're red now
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 67d
No, we suffer in black
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 69d
I’ve got a good few, but they are local bands, so it was likely a cost decision, but I definitely sport them more when it’s hot.
I’ll sweat balls in my Conan shirts without a second thought, though. Because fuckin’ Conan.
All hail Volt Thrower.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 68d
I have a neon blue Cattle Decapitation tank with a bright yellow logo, love that shirt.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 68d
I was very relieved by the end of that sentence.
mech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 68d
Just one
rless would completely change the meaning of your comment.kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 68d
https://youtu.be/cYQAFtkqH34?is=gN82_wotB8wDhIkG
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 68d
I had a dope-ass cream colored shirt from my favorite band, Caligula's Horse. Was devastated when it got destroyed. Now back to all black stuff...
pigup@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 69d
My brother used to have a white kreator shirt
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 68d
I enjoy the wool sports coat with long sleeve starched white shirt and the pencil thin black tie and fedora hat. While listening to the sweet voice of queen Ella singing the Blues and drinking a martini.
Now that's hot!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 68d
Ella...the greatest singer of all time. Literally perfect.
SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 68d
Why does she look like a render from a 2010 era game? Took me a while to figure out it's an actual photograph.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 68d
Looks like the sign is shopped, so it makes the rest of it look weird with the contrast.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 68d
So... Aesthethica by Liturgy?
DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 68d
I got a bright blue cattle decap shirt and a few white lorna shore shirts
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 68d
Out of curiosity, aren't clothes actually heat the same under the sun? It's infrared albedo that matters after all, not the visible specturm one, no?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 68d
No, white clothing does reflect more heat than black clothing. However the answer to which is better to wear in hot weather is "it's complicated", the TL;DR is that for tight clothes white is better, for loose clothing black and white are the same.
schnapsman@feddit.org · 1 pts · 67d
I think it also depends on how hot it is, since anything more reflective (a white shirt) is also more insulating. So if it's just kind of hot out, black would probably be better.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 67d
Light gets converted into heat, white rejects more light before it can do that.
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 68d
Colors work by which parts of the light spectrum get absorbed and which get reflected. A shirt that absorbs most wavelengths, but largely reflects green, will look green.
And in that same vein, colors will appear darker, if less light is reflected in general. So, a white shirt may reflect 90+% of light, whereas a black shirt may absorb 90+% of light.
And ultimately, absorption means that the light's energy is turned into warmth. So yeah, a darker shirt heats up more in the sun.
SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 66d
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 68d
For me it's cat fur - if I so much as THINK about my cats, my black t-shirts are absolutely blanketed. No amount of brushing or lint rolling is sufficient to eliminate the problem, so I just don't wear black.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 67d
You can thank Rob Halford for popularizing the Gay Leather Daddy aesthetic among straight metalheads who didn't know any better.
Zacryon@feddit.org · 1 pts · 67d
White shirts will reflect your body heat back to you.
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
This girl is so fine I try to give an upvote everytime I see this but I only have one 😞
daggermoon@piefed.world · -9 pts · 68d
I want her to use my face as a chair.