Flock CEO calls for ‘compromise’ as surveillance company faces growing backlash | TechCrunch

There should be no compromising our right to privacy and these cameras need to go. Fuck Flock and their cash grab.

How about we compromise by saying remove them all, give back the money spent, delete all data and in exchange you don't get the treatments due one helping enable orwillian levels of suvelance

Interesting that he’s framing it as a balance between privacy and safety instead of privacy and security.

Flock cameras haven’t been proven to make anyone safer.

I like the sounds of this. Here's an offer:

Fuck off, and the guillotine gets put away.

Everybody wins!

The compromise is that he lives

Just wait til Flocko'ween.

It's wild, because when I was a kid, there was this huge conservative talking point about how trading freedom for security was bad.

I think the window of compromise has long since passed. Flock as a company went in with a guns blazing, anti-privacy, record everything, give the information to anyone style business style, and then chose to double and triple down on the style when the controversy/outcry first started. Once you've hit the stage where there's people starting to protest and riot and cities have started to go out of their way to ban the product and retract contracts due to the fact that they're concerned about public support. It's too late. That's a fire that's not being put out.

And the zombies said "all we want to do is eat your brains, maybe we can compromise..."

If you get rid of your right to privacy, you get rid of your right to safety.

Fuck off with compromise. take your shit and get out no one wants you in case the guillotine wasn't fucking clear

Remember, it's Axon as well, and many more companies. and a major contrbuter who has linked in with all of these creepy services is Amazon and has the largest surveillence network in residential areas not just on travel corridors comprised of Ring doorbell cameras tied in to all of these systems.

Flock seems like the sacrificial lamb, to me. They are in your face, ther cameras are obvious, and their CEO runs his mouth so much everyone hates him.

It's like how Elon can't keep his mouth shut, but Ellison far more dangerous and nearly as rich.

Safety for who, exactly, Garrett? Because the common people aren't safer with this overreach

There is absolutely no reason to track people everywhere they go. We were fine before these things.

For his part, Langley has said that state regulators should “pass bills that make [the illegal use of Flock data] a criminal offense.”

No one trusts the police to genuinely enforce anything that could impact themselves.

We're already in the safest time for petty crime ever, and flock won't help with America's real issue of corporate crime. Safety will not be affected.

No, Garrett, we don't negotiate with surveillance states.

Okay, here’s the compromise: you close everything down, and we don’t feed you to a hungry business of ferrets.

Anyone who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserves neither.

Garrett can get fucked.

Eat shit, Garrett.

Fuck these clowns. Their “compromise” is finding some way to quiet the bad press while continuing to do what they’ve been doing.

“We’ll stop putting our cameras where people don’t want them and just put then where our clients want them.”

Okay, here's the compromise: disband your company and we'll put away the guillotines.

The more you learn about Flock, the scarier it gets. They have FULL profiles built on EVERY american that has flock cameras nearby. All your shopping, driving, financial habits are tracked. They know who all your friends and family are and how often you visit, they track your vehicles specific identifiable features like bumper damage, stickers, faded paint, etc. All of that is a complete violation of the 4th amendment and all these companies need to be sued.

*We didn't invent police abuse! We actually shined a light on it and pointed it out"

Fuck right the hell off with this shit. You don't get to sell your panopticon to a group that routinely abuses every tool they have, and feign ignorance in defense of the results.

I can guarantee this has been said already, but the compromise is simple; no flock cameras (or comparable tech) anywhere.

Hey won't be gullitined and instead he will just face prison time and have his mass survelence system dismantled and the rest of his assets seized and redistributed

A fair and just compromise imho

He says as he continues to launch surveillance drones without asking anybody if they're okay with that...

I think one of the problems that encompasses the flock debate besides the privacy issues is the relationship that the police have with people in the United States. Most police view people as a threat and if you look at the police training they teach them to be extremely violent. During simple traffic stops most police are on edge and have an attitude like they might be violent with you. I'm just talking about the general atmosphere- I'm not even getting into all of the examples where police have killed people for no reason, falsified information to arrest innocent people, and generally abused their power.

Did police want to wear body cams or did they want to continue without accountability? Police have a responsibility and have taken an oath. They should be required to have cameras.

In a society where all of its parts work together towards the same goal, ALPRs would not be a problem. In the US this surveillance is very worrisome.

Hey buddy, you didn't ask us about shit before you started installing your creepy cameras to monitor us everywhere, so you can go ahead and fuck off now.

No! 😀

Compromise offer: you stop spying on us and we'll stop breaking your cameras.

I call a guillotine a compromise.

Tar and feathers are not expensive, and it's a hilarious thing to do to someone

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Ben Franklin

In other words: Fuck you, Flock.

We had a compromise. It's called the bill of rights. Goes like this:

1. I'll say what I fucking want and associate with who I fucking please.
2. I'll fucking shoot you if you get in the way.
3. You stay rhe fuck out of my house.
4. Did you fucking hear me? STAY OUT OF MY HOUSE. AND LEAVE MY SHIT ALONE.
5. You're not the fucking boss of me. My crew will tell me when I'm out of line.
6. I'm fucking going home when I please, no matter what you say I did.
7. If you think I owe you, I don't unless my crew fucking says so.
8. Don't fuck with me about shit that doesn't deserve it.
9. Just because I didn't say it doesn't mean you shouldn't back the fuck off. Use your goddamn brain.
10. You don't get to make up shit and say you're in charge of it. My house. My rules.

You don't negotiate with terrorists, Nazis, or billionaires.

I agree

And the compromise no cameras, more privacy

What compromise? Where's your warrant to search our lives, our comings and goings? Rich people don't have to deal with this harassment.

I do not want Flock cameras surveiling me or my car where it will inevitably become data that's combined with a million other data points on me that might be able to determine what I'm doing, what I'm thinking, and what I might do in the future, just to be able to say we're "safer".

Ok. You spend the rest of your life in jail, and your immediate and extended family can live.

They won't be rich. They will be held accountable if they broke the law as well.

Or we can exterminate 50-100k people to give justice to billions.

Either option is acceptable to me.

The compromise is we let you take your cameras down instead of drawing and quartering you.

Correct, "safety" compromises our privacy. Now you're getting it, captain shithead CEO! So with that in mind, there is no way we can accept these cameras.

“How do we have our safety, and how do we balance privacy?”

Spoken like a true sales/con artist. I can almost hear the brand guidelines poking through... Always mention safety before privacy, always treat safety as a given and privacy as the buffer zone in which to find compromise.

The compromise is how far each town chooses to go above security tier 0: emergencies with immediate threat to life or property.

• tier 0 is defined as covering 100% of law enforcement requests of all agencies with jurisdiction in the covered area.

Funny. I don't know why but my brain keep reading the title as: "Fuck CEO".

The rich will never feel save while we, their victims, have privacy.

They know better than even we do how much reason we have to be plotting against them.

It’s afraid

Here's the compromise: Take down the cameras and people won't guillotine you.

the compromise is for you to put flock cameras in every room in your house.

I agree. Our starting position is all flock cameras should be taken down and then shoved up Garrett Langley's ass. Every single one of them.

Now let us come to the table and find a compromise.

I'm amazed at how their concern for our safety allows them to do all sorts of heinous shit for profit our safety.

These concerns aren’t just hypothetical. The Washington Post recently identified 46 cases where police officers have been accused of using Flock technology for unauthorized purposes, including to stalk their wives, girlfriends, or exes.

After listening to an interview with one of the alleged victims, Langley told CBS News, “I apologize. It kills me that she went through that.” At the same time, he insisted, “I don’t think that Flock created police abuse. I think we’re the first company to ever shine a light on it and build the tools to find it.”

Oh fuck off. You don't get to call yourself a hero for making a problem worse.

Safety? They constantly put innocent victims at risk by misidentifying them as the criminals!!!

Odd description of 'safety'

We don't need to find shit. They need to go away before their heads start to resemble their cut down cameras.

Tired of this.

Need to expand from pulling down camera to pulling down Flock buildings, manufacturing sites, etc.

Here is your compromise. Shutter your company & we won't hang you.

No compromises with fascists.

The comprise is for the flock ceo to commit suicide with a shotgun

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Asked and answered.

Safety from what Langley? What are the cameras keeping us safe from?

Sure, the compromise is we cut them down until you stop. Sound good to everyone else?

On the right, three House Republicans recently introduced a bill that would prohibit the federal government from purchasing automated surveillance systems that use facial recognition, biometric IDs, or license plate recognition, “including a Flock Safety camera.”

Really? Wow. Okay, when you lose Republicans (well, some Republicans), you KNOW you've gone too far. Damn.

What the US should prioritize is opportunity, education, corporate regulation, housing affordability, justice and dealing with corruption.

Gee, then they wouldn't need the surveillance state.

No quarter for flock cameras no compromise with surveillance tech ceos

They're not even watching traffic though...

Yeah, no, the interpretations of the 4th amendment that led to these things being legal were clearly made in an era where they relied on the high cost of surveillance to minimize the amount there is. A reasonable modern day interpretation of the 4th should ban these

I AGREE! There IS common Ground between allowing the Epstein Class to SPY ON CHILDREN and the People who think CHILD RAPISTS Spying on Children is WRONG! Maybe just a COUPLE MILLION of Taxpayer Dollars to Spy on Children as a Treat?

-Centrists!

there's no compromise - take down ALL the fucking surveillance crap and take it down NOW.

Langley needs to find a compromise between living and getting Luigi'd.

I drove my company at the wall. Dearest wall, give me a compromise, pretty please?

No, fuck off.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Nah.

No compromise with our rights being infringed upon.

Destroy them all.

Not an inch ! Not a mm!

I call for something else lol.

the compromise could be that they should take their own cameras down then do door to door petitions on who actually wants them.

My suggestion for compromise would be to bring back tar and feathering

Die, Flock. The company would not be missed.

You have both by not having you around, asshole.

The only compromise we want to see is the structural kind.

ok.

we'll continue ripping down your shitty products and you can just shut the fuck up.

see, isn't that a nice compromise?

I agree, a good compromise would be life imprisonment for the CEO and every investor.

It's not a matter of privacy or safety. It's a matter of how does this technology benefit me? So far, that's none at all. I live in a place of low crime, so it's ability to keep me safer is minor if at all. Police abuse it and the upper classes seem safe from it. I do not see any benefit in it's current form. Lock it down behind court orders without general police/organizational access and maybe? But I'll still vote against it...

Just as a good to know, if feces (especially of unknown origin) are involved in a cleanup and restoration project, it becomes a biohazard and requires additional time and resources.

Fuck you, Garrett.

My privacy and freedom are invaluable to me, I don't give 2 shits about some CEOs profits. He can go rot in a ditch for all I care.

"I'm being paid to fuck you all " now modified to "why can't we all just get along"

Flock off.

You can't make a deal w/ the devil.

There is no compromise. Garret, You will be lucky to be alive here in a few months. The only thing you can do is beg and grovel and give back every penny you and your company earned back to the American people and in addition, take down every flock camera. And to employees of this company, run and Publicly denounce them so you have a CHANCE to be hired anywhere again.

Work with evil, die with evil.

Well, since you care less than zero about our safety, Langley, there will be no compromise.

"Lol" said the scorpion, "lmao."

Compromise: kill yourself

Get rid of them.

The compromise is you scrap every camera, or we do.

Compromise is a dirty word.

Lol, no.

Ok. No