utopiah

u/utopiah@lemmy.world
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Why am I actually tired of that trope? Because when you propagate the wrong preconception that you need an unstable or quirky distribution to make Linux work with modern hardware, you are gatekeeping. You are preventing others from switching to Linux and it is due to your ignorance.

This is so dumb it is tiring...

I'm using Debian stable on my desktop but I also play games, AAA to indie, with the latest gadgets, e.g. Steam Controller or even VR headsets. I also control my house with IoT with single keypresses on my mechanical keyboard which has its own touchpach (no mouse) with individual RGB key. I have a more modern setup than most but I still stick to a stable distribution because one can have both, you just have to buy devices that respect your agency by relying on well supported and/or open protocols, e.g. BT or Zigbee.

PS: I get that it's humor, don't "explain" it to me. I also have a fixie bike because I got tired of trying to fix my proprietary e-bike so yes I can also feed the trope (in the sense of going "back" to older technologies outside the computer) but unfortunately beyond it is important that people understand it is actually incorrect.

TL;DR: tired trope, I have weird brand new e-gadgets and peripherals doing very demanding tasks while still relying on Debian stable.

I didn't suggest they are exactly the same. Since I don't have a benchmark, can you please clarify for example which popular game would be playable with one but not with the other? That would help the rest of us better grasp how very different it will be.

FWIW I have a SteamDeck so you could also use that as a metric if that's useful.

Yes... it's like default settings. The very action of changing a setting on any devices means you are a "power user". You made a conscious decision on how the device should behave and you suspect it can be done. Meanwhile the vast majority of users do not even consider this a possibility.

Windows users are not using a computer, they are doing another task that happens to required a machine, they don't learn about what it is, how it works, how it can be modified.

IMHO it was perfectly in the 70s when there was no laptop, desktop, mobile phone, mobile data. Now that one needs to use such infrastructure to interact with others, vote, pay bills, get access to culture, etc then I do believe computer literacy is not optional anymore.

That's not what they said. Free software can be paid for, either via users or via subsidies. Nobody in this thread suggested that developers starve.

To be pragmatic here are ways free software can be monetized :

I professionally do both, namely I get paid to develop free software but I also pay free software developers, e.g. https://gcompris.net/ via their https://www.patreon.com/animtim . I also until recently worked in a public institution and was paid to write free software.

I think it is important not to conflate free software with free of cost and indeed free of production. Free software developers, like me, need to pay their bills but that does NOT have to be opposed to your freedom in using and modifying that software. By implying a false dichotomy by software being either proprietary or funded somehow you are in fact sadly promoting proprietary software, please do not do that.

Good thing movements reclaiming streets back for citizens already exist. In fact even businesses who initially opposed this actually realize it's better for them too.

Looks at photos of Amsterdam and Paris just decades ago. It's like smoking in planes.

We as a society try, fail, learn, and overcome BS.

Indeed, classic. AI isn't good enough for THEIR domain, their expertise, but for stuff they know NOTHING about it's somehow OK. Total lack of introspection and Dunning-Kruger effect.