honestly man...it's not a bad decision. I for a long time didn't give Debian the time of day. Now i'm daily driving OpenBSD and I use a Debian VM on it for certain dev work (mainly builds and deploys) and then on my second NVME I first went with Bazzite to do gaming but then I changed my mind and was like "meh, debian" and it's solid. it's good. it stays out of my way for what I want to do on it which isn't much.
It's a decent distro that's just kinda there and you don't have to worry about it.
The Nvidia driver in the Debian repos is virtually abandoned, though thankfully the Cuda repos hosted by Nvidia support Debian now, and give Debian users access to the latest drivers, like 610.
I enabled this repo last week on Debian 13 (RTX4080). While it technically works, I'd say it's not without risks for those not a little familiar with linux.
It first required some fiddling cause the file that is supposed to blacklist Nouveau on boot was renamed by apt as .save or something as a result of the package upgrades, so the system just started loading Nouveau instead of the new driver. Fixing this got me further, as the 610 proprietary driver finally loaded.
Sarting my usual plasma X11 session didn't work though. It launched but didn't display shit (grey boxes instead of windows and taskbar basically).
Having also plasma wayland available from sddm, I tried to launch this session and it got me a working desktop. So I ended settling with this. Wayland used to be crap on my system, but with this recent NVIDIA drivers, it's usable. My only real complaint is the extra latency on the mouse cursor.
I also had some difficulty getting it working on my rig, and I'm not a big fan if Debian's documentation, as it often does assume knowledge, which makes it harder to follow along and feel confident you're doing the correct steps.
Ultimately I switched my only Nvidia system to standard Linux Mint to have access to their easy to use Nvidia driver installer, which makes upgrading or downgrading the driver a 1-click process (though it requires a third party PPA done by a canonical employee to access the latest 610 drivers).
I'm so glad it's not just me that's had this lol. My laptop blackscreened after a house move and when I saw the GPU was offline I thought it didn't survive the journey.
yup very easy to setup too. it's a VERY basic netinstall of Debian. but right now I have it to run builds, deploy, and even have nix on there to do some nixos stuff.
No 20 year old belt. But I do have a set of 20 year old suspenders or galluses if you prefer. I wear suspenders because I have a very large surgical scar from a ruptured appendix years ago. Belt are very irritating to wear.
I used to be so excited about a everything-digital during my teenage years. Now I look at my mechanical tools with joy, and become suspicious of anything not having an open firmware.
Best part is even when you do a major version update, Debian still doesn't break your shit. At least it never has with me. Can't say the same for most other ditros I've tried.
I bought it for $25 in 2009 and have carried it every day since. The fabric in the cash pocket has separated from the leather and the plastic window for my photo ID is missing. My wife told me I should buy a new one since this one's so worn. I said, "Why? It still works perfectly." Not a knock against her. We just have different ideas about the meaning of durability.
This was my husband. He only bought a new one because he wanted one of the metal ones that just hold cards, that you can stick on the back of your phone. I spent 15 years with him before that, and he'd had the wallet at least 7 years when we met.
I drive an older model manual transmission acura and use a 1980s style programmable thermostat with no smart features or connectivity. Use Debian stable with KDE. Checks out
My car is a 20 year old shitbox, my bike gets new brake pads and a bit of random lubricant on the chain once a year and other "maintenance" only when parts fall off, and my stereo is a mix of hand me downs from my dad's college days and some eBay home theatre stuff that got sold because it didn't support the newest HDMI bullshit.
Oh, and of course it is a Thinkpad, thanks for asking.
Just the other day, a friend of mine running Arch tried to install something, which resulted in him having to do a full system update, including fixing several "that should not happen" s. Meanwhile, every few years I spend an evening update to the newest stable, and never had bigger issues than the color of some icon being unfamiliar.
Man I always hear about these people who have to fix random that should not happen things. Yet I haven't had that problem in a decade of using rolling distros.
While ever time I've ever had a fixed release cycle distro update it implodes. What black magic fuckery is this.
I guess it depends on how much you can abuse or ignore it. Debian works just fine if you put it in a locker for 3 years and then try to update. With gentoo, if you didn't update for a week, you might as well reinstall :)
Arch is somehow in the middle, I had an arch VM that never had any problems except that certificate issue despite not getting many updates.
Nah, L390 Yoga. I wanted touch because i thought I'd use it, but it ended up in a docking station most of the time anyway. Upgraded RAM and SSD, battery still hold "a few hours" despite being 7+ years old. I figured those 8th gen quad cores would last a while, and so far, they do. Doesn't feel too terrible compared to my modern core u 235 work laptop.
I don't have a Thinkpad myself. I do have a 10 year old Acer Aspire V3-372T. It's a perfectly cromulent laptop. I use it to listen to podcasts and YouTube. I check my emails sometimes. I check weather.gov. I have a copy of my music library. I write my personal budgets. It has a touchscreen that I never use. I get around just fine.
One day, I'll either get a Thinkpad or a Framework.
Perfectly fine if it does what it should. That is imo the essence of this post: Better is the enemy of good. I wouldn't buy a new one (again), this one was a bit of an exception (customer return, with a little scratch), since used touch laptops with good performance were quite rare.
Why make a tire pressure gauge that needs batteries? Oh just what I want, to pull my bulky ass tire gauge out of my glove compartment and find it’s got corroded dead ass batteries cause it’s been sitting in there for a year untouched.
But it's definitely a thing that exists. I, unfortunately, got one as a birthday present once, way back when. Used it maybe once or twice, then went back to a normal slide gauge and haven't touched it since.
Consistency. You can take 3 readings in a row with that stick and get 3 wildly different results. I have a $20 digital one from decades ago that gives me the same reading within 5kPa on each try.
That's mostly a quality and skill issue. People cheap out and buy low quality gages. My 40 year old stick gage is as accurate as is needed and very repeatable in my hands. And it measures up to 150psi.
And remember, this stuff isn't that accurate anyway. It just good enough and that's it.
I have one of those in my glovebox. I think I bought it in 2003. My 2003 manual jap econobox has no need for TPMS. If a tyre is 30kPa too low, you can feel it.
They exist with a round dial as well. Personally I don't measure my tire pressure, ever. My car will tell me if one is low, and I'd go to a gas station to fill them to spec. Although lately I got a little compressor which goes in the cigarette lighter, which just lets you enter the desired pressure. I use that for the car, bikes, footballs and whatever else needs to be pumped to a given pressure.
I’m in this picture and quite frankly it’s a great place to be. Everything either just works, I know how to fix it, or I at least know what is broken and not worth fixing.
Though that is a terrible style of air pressure gauge. Get a good dial one with the tube.
I have damn near everything in this photo except it's a 91 Honda accord and I don't have a PS2, I have an original Wii. I feel suspiciously called out.
My real car is a 97 Honda Prelude, and yes, it is a manual. When my 2012 Civic had a dead starter motor, that Prelude was my daily driver for six months until the weather cooled off enough to actually do the job.
The Prelude is definitely more of a project/weekend car. Every car guy knows you never project your daily, but I feel pretty comfy dailying my project lol
I've got nothing but love for the Mazda NB Miata and the MX-6. The Subaru SVX was also dope.
Nissan is easy to glaze because the S13 is probably the most sought out neoclassic car that isn't the GT-R or Supra, but so much of their other stuff from the time gets overlooked. Like the Sentra SE-R or the Pulsar. The S-Cargo is my favorite because the joke is so layered. It's a cargo van that looks like a snail, and its name is pronounced escargot.
The coolest car I ever owned was an 81 VW Rabbit with a naturally aspirated diesel paired with a four speed manual. Was a dream of a vehicle and only broke down on me once.
I’ll always miss driving a cool retro car but I can’t justify it with my wife’s safety now a concern.
I feel at home in this photo. My beard has turned 1% more gray this blessed night.
The key differences I have come from the fact that I am drawn to the "chief engineer turned goose farmer" future even more than the "greybeard recluse inventor" one. I
get to use a Debian machine at work all day anyway, plus of course the home PC runs it. With KDE there is nothing that feels old about it unless I check when the kernel was released.
My car isn't THAT old but it's on its way. I drive an almost 15 year old mazda3, which we have owned for all of those years. I just did my biggest-yet DIY maintenance/repair when I had to replace some disintegrated-yet-seized brake hoses in addition to pads and rotors and flushing the fluid. In my driveway, no garage. I got a bunch of new wrenches and vise grips!
The mazda is an automatic since we originally bought it for my wife. But it was right after the company debuted the Skyactiv stuff. Among other things like great fuel efficiency, that means the transmission locks up the torque converter as often as possible. And it has manual shift mode. So when you're in gear holding some mid-range RPM, you do still feel that direct powertrain connection between engine and wheels.
Part of me is casually keeping tabs on the "fun" new car models out there that still offer a manual transmission or DCT. But another part of me is constantly noting to self how I already have a nearly perfect old familiar car that is fun and practical for the whole family. It has low mileage for the age and a good maintenance history. And it is $FREE versus $30,000+.
Aside from the car difference, I have cast off a bunch of little devices and accessories thanks to my conscious efforts to be less connected and more about experiencing life at my natural pace. I no longer wear a watch, ever, even though I definitely have the chunky leather wallet. Also no glowing visible clocks in the bedroom or family room. And no big stereo because 95% of my music listening is via headphones at work or working outside in my yard.
Most of my listening is also done over headphones, and I admit that my library is all in mp3 format. As much as I love optical media, it's because I can rip my discs to my machine in whatever quality and format I want, then never have to handle them again unless all my copies are deleted. This preserves the discs.
I have a portable CD player from, and I use the term portalble liberally because while it can accept six AA batteries for a power source, it also has no anti-skip because it was made in 1991.
But what I love about this thing is how much of an occasion it makes the listening experience. Handling the discs carefully so as not to smudge or scratch them. Waiting for it to spin up and start playing. And just sitting there and intentionally listening to it. It's kind of magical. Even more so with a decent set of cans and a dark room.
Mazda3 is an excellent car to have. My brother used to have an '08 Mazda3 hatch until it was totaled by a drunk driver. He wasn't in the car. It was parked on the side of the road. Really cool car, and the 2.3 is probably one of the most underrated engines out there. They really pack a punch.
I don't necessarily have a thing against automatics. My beef is more with the fact that manuals aren't really an option anymore. I said in another comment that my real cars are a '97 Honda Prelude and a '12 Civic. I did daily the Prelude for six months when the starter died in my Civic, but the Prelude is really only a weekend car because it does maybe 25 mpg and takes premium fuel. My Civic does 40 without trying and E10 costs about $1.40 less per gallon where I am. My Civic is an auto, and I'm fine with it. Automatic just feels boring to me. I really enjoy having something to do with all four limbs at once.
If I ever feel like dropping money on a newer car, I've always loved the idea of a manual midsize sedan. I know the Accord could be had with a six speed manual all the way until like 2021, which is bonkers to me since Toyota stopped making the manual Camry in 2006. I think my only other option in this very specific segment is a BMW 3-series, and I just can't picture myself in a Bimmer.
Anything brakes is always so stressful. If anything else fails, you can probably still get the 3,000 pound metal death box to stop. But if your BRAKES fail? Yeah, just pull the hand brake and try not to cry too much. I basically rebuilt the rear brakes on my Civic last month. It has 147,000 miles on it and was running on original brake shoes. And because I'd waited until they started grinding, the drums couldn't be resurfaced, either. So I went all in and got new hardware and cylinders, too. I'd so much rather do disc brakes than drum brakes. Those springs are such a pain, and Honda made them really weird. Not to mention my hammer was entirely too small for the job of literally beating the brakes off the thing lol 2012 was the last year the Civic LX had drum brakes of any kind. I'm fine with drums. They really do last forever if you're not a monster on the brake pedal. I'm just glad I won't be doing brake shoes again for at least another 7-10 years.
My wife points out every new gray hair in my beard. One day, there will be so many new ones at once that she'll have to stop counting. For now, it's really cute. I love it.
First, I appreciate that your comment is even longer than mine AND came with the multimedia.
I totally get what you mean about it being an occasion to listen to music with the old equipment. I had at least one portable CD player with no anti-skip. So not only can I feel some of that experience just through nostalgia, but then I start thinking about nerdy little kid me getting a player with anti-skip. It had a clear window on the lid, so I could see how the disc spun at 2x speed for while when starting a song or causing skips. I started to understand how it was filling a buffer and must have had a bit of extra RAM in there. And now middle aged me monitors and controls engine RPM all the time in my automatic car, lol.
On listening to MP3s, I see no issue there, but I have always been more of a videophile and less of an audiophile. However, I have also transitioned away from locally stored music, to just streaming from my Jellyfin server. Thanks to that practically eliminating audio size concerns, I just use FLACs of everything.
As high tech as that sounds, the server capacity also helps me discover music in the old-fashioned & natural way rather than algorithmically. When I realize I am missing some song I want, I will add as much of that band's entire discography as I have available. Then it's just a question of whether I listen to albums or random songs. Any songs that noticeably stroke my neurons the right way gets added to my single playlist of bangers, for when I don't want random or albums.
Finally, a manual transmission midsize sedan can still be had in a few non-BMW forms. I have actually been researching current fun-transmission new cars even though I don't plan to buy anything any time soon. Most of them will be performance oriented models that recommend premium, but most seem to be able to run regular these days with just reduced max hp. So just going off memory for now:
Civic Si - This might be your best bet. High fuel economy, great 6-speed, well equipped, well priced. I think it's in the Car & Driver top 10, with a 10/10 score, alongside the Type R which is like $20K more.
Mazda3 hatchback - ok it's not a sedan, but for some reason you can get a specific premium trim level of the hatchback with a really good 6-speed. It's also a FWD 2.5L that recommends regular unleaded.
Elantra N: 6-speed manual and 8-speed DCT available. Seems like an extremely fun performance bargain. Lots of tech and adjustability, including fancy LSD.
WRX: 6-speed AND full time AWD. I had one long ago and loved it. It isn't regarded as being quite as aggressive and refined as the Si and the N these days I think, but it's definitely a great all around vehicle and you aren't stuck with FWD if that matters to you.
As a person old enough to have driven manuals from 3 on the tree to 4 and 5 speeds, to 4x2, 5x2, 5x3 and 5x4 double sticks, 10 speeds and 13 speeds. Rowing your own gears is highly over rated. And even worse in stop and go driving.
That's true, but if you have a 20-year-old item that is still working and a different 5-year-old item that is still working and you know nothing else about them, the statistics do work out that the former will likely maintain its working condition longer. It's obviously not a hard rule, but as a rule of thumb, it exists for a reason.
Pretty much any experimental Nvidia feature. By the time you have it working you aren't on debian anymore and have basically butchered the distro beyond reasoning.
As I grow older, I began relating to this list more and more. But as one who is born closer to the 2000’s and raised by a sheltered, buys-only-brand-names parent; I find myself paralyzed when attempting to buy from used goods vendors that these things are only found at these days. Judging if “they’re still good” is a skill issue.
Please regale me with more debian factoids. The only linux distro ive ever stuck with was ubuntu but ive been on it steadily for some time now. Your comment was the first time ive considered changing distro.
after all the snap package nonsense ubuntu is basically just 'debian but worse and less stable' Definitely check out debian. Imo the golden years of ubuntu are well done and buried at this point. Tho, i will never forget installing the first beta of the unity desktop on my school laptop way back when, this is all said with a deep love for the project, just cant imagine daily driving it actually having any advantages to other distros atm
It's a '96 manual transmission for sure, wallet's maybe 10yo, never cared for consoles and have some manuals laying around.
I've replaced some stuff with my smartphone though and prefer Devuan, Slackware and Gentoo. Of course Thinkpads.
A) Some modern cars have built-in pressure gauges and can tell you the pressure of each tire on a screen on the dashboard.
B) Some fuckers out there (for inexplicable reasons) like to use digital tire pressure gauges with little screens of their own. Why you'd want a tire pressure gauge that requires batteries when an analog one works fine ... that's beyond my understanding.
The problem with built in pressure gauges is they only work after driving a bit. If you fill your tires you never know it's enough or too much until after you leave and then you need to either give up or turn around
The admitted benefit of the digital ones are accuracy. Mechanical pop out gauges, or even dial gauge styles, they have limited accuracy at pressure below their spec and obviously don;t work at all or will be damaged by pressure above their spec.
E.g, for the pop out gauges, you'll usually see them sold in ranges of 5-30psi, 20-60psi, and 30-120 psi. 5-30 is good for lawn equipment, 20-60 for cars and light truck, 30-120 for heavy truck. A digital gauge covers all of them at once rather than needing 3 separate gauges banging around in the toolbox.
The digtial gauge can get you within 0.5psi while the mechanicals usually are within 2psi at best. And for big lawn or flotation tires that need like 3psi or less, forget it, you need digital, most mechanical gauges never even go that low..
I’m not driving a race car to where I need tire pressure that accurate. The mornings here start cold and warm up so that line impacts my tire pressure more than the variance in the gauge not to mention the tires warm up during driving. It does seem nice to have a constant ability to see tires pressure in the dashboard though. I just don’t have that.
Hey, I've got the Vostok "Scuba Dude" Amphibia self winder dive watch and the Komandirskie army version manual wind. Rugged and reliable after all these years!
It's just soap and when you use it you feel soapy and then you rinse it off and you feel like you've used soap.
Anything in a bottle is some concoction of bullshit woo-woo like honey and pomegranate or hibiscus petals and seal fur. As in, it's more marketing than soap.
I went straight from Ubuntu to Debian. It still took me a little bit to go from GNOME to KDE. I would not recommend new Linux users go straight to Debian from their first distro, but I'd been using Ubuntu on and off again since 2012 so when I decided to leave Windows in 2024, I also decided to leave Ubuntu for good and went straight to Debian. The idea that I set it and forget it and never have to worry about it was (and is) so appealing to me.
I've considered running Slack on my laptop, though.
I was using a mix of debian servers, arch thinkpads and macos macbooks at the point where I moved everything to NixOS (macbooks did not survive this transition and were donated due to never working properly because of t2 issues).
Nix is extremely hard. I mean, don't get me wrong, initial setup is easy, adding and updating packages is the easiest experience between all package managers out there, nixpkgs is overpowered as it has almost all the software that exists since there are no conflicting dependencies in nix. Getting something that is not in nixpkgs to run is impossible for a beginner (nixpkgs has steam-run to partially solve this, but results may vary). Getting to the point where a tornado may pass through your home and destroy all the hardware inside, and the whole recovery process from that point is about 20 minutes of your time, including the trip to the store for new hardware, requires significant effort, both time and mental, that most of us don't have. But the entire point is that it is possible with Nix!
If Debian is like owning a 90s Corolla, NixOS is like owning a factory that can make any car you like. You can choose to get a 90s Corolla, you can choose to get a newer Corolla, you can skip corollas entirely and make something new and fast. When the new and fast thing breaks, you can make a new car or go back to the Corolla. The Corolla comes completely ready to use by you from the production line. If you need to adjust the mirrors, you just make a new car with the correct mirrors setup. All the cars you make after that will come with the mirrors setup how you like them, because that is now a part of the manufacturing instructions the factory has.
The only caveat is that factory gets updates every 6 months and then your car building pipeline may break when you get the update. In three years I've been using nixos fixing those took about 5 minutes and usually boiled down to stuff like 'previously we had a list of car colors, passed as a string, now the factory expects to get a hex color code'.
Judging by the commit history, I moved most of my machines to NixOS after about 6 months building my config, then, 8 months later I rebuilt the entire thing from scratch when I understood nix enough to make everything truly modular.
I really doubt that once you've embraced NixOS you'd be tempted to use anything else or try LFS. NixOS is beautiful. NixOS just works (after 6 months of setup).
Seems like I skipped the whole pipeline amd went straight from Rasbpian to debian :p
I tried a bit of mint but it was too annoying to get something to run and bailed.
I'm in this image and I feel good about it, the manual transmission, the PS2 (although I did pick up a ps5 recently to play gta 6), the analogue watch, the leather wallet, I don't have a discman, but I do have an MP3 player, the seperate audio system with a turnable, the zippo lighter, and a classic scientific calculator. All things I use frequently.
Many cars these days have built in tire pressure monitors and will light your dash with a warning light when it is low. Both my vehicles do that. I still carry a tire gauge in my glove box though.
I used to have basically that thermostat. Slightly different model. I "upgraded" because the "smart" ones were supposed to save money. Saw my bills go up right away. Regretted the Nest Thermostat almost immediately.
And that wallet is in better condition than mine right now. Fuck it, I'll take everything in that photo, but swap out the manual for an automatic.
Oh my. My one daughter just published 2 research papers on household thermostats. And according to her long term testing, Nest is one to definitely avoid.
I also ditched my "dumb" thermostats but went the DIY route. I put at least one temp sensor in each room/zone. Then switched out the actual thermostats with hard-wired Shelly relays from ameridroid. Everything is in a Zigbee network governed by "Better Thermostat" in Home Assistant.
A bit more work, yes, but everything stays local, I have all heating and cooling in one dashboard customized to my preferences, and the system is modular and extendable - next will be further automation with open door and window sensors + better presence detection.
I'll take the bait. This is a classic AV rack setup which is a relic of the bygone era. Looks like a pretty typical configuration with a Receiver/amplifier, CD player, Laser disc player(?), double tape deck, and a VHS Cassette player. And of course you have to have the colossal speakers to accompany this technological tour de force from the early 90s. The little box may be a headphone amp but not sure.
Once you had all of this, you officially made it. I never quite did and this is one of my many regrets. I will go back to the nursing home now...
The little box looks like it has the DirecTV logo on on the right side, might be a receiver for that. There's no VCR, but it does look like a mix of audio and video equipment based on the unplugged RCA trio.
Laser disc is a solid maybe. A radio tuner is in there somewhere, too. My thought is above the amp, which is above the tape deck.
Haha, I was too lazy to zoom in on the picture but now I can see that the bottom unit was not a VCR like I initially thought. Point to you, internet stranger :)
Well you kinda just answered your own question. Put in anything you want, VHS player, DVD player, CD player, AV receiver, amplifier etc. My grandad had an LD player in one of these lol. Basically everything netflix and spotify gives you but you gotta manage it yourself.
I do have a mechanical Hamilton Khaki field watch. I love it. They're not cheap, but it's such a nice watch. My wife bought it for my for my 30th birthday because I'd been telling her for years that I'd wanted one. Given the expense, I only wear it for occasions like family get-togethers or dinner dates.
So this is my daily driver.
Been ticking for over 10 years without issue now. I just replaced the band because the old leather band did finally give up the ghost. Other than that, this has also been a great watch.
Hey, those old school Craftsman ratchets and wrenches last forever. My dad bought a set in the 70s, he died in 2023 and they were one of the things I kept in the aftermath and they are way better than the ones I have bought for myself over the years that are much newer.
My advice to anyone these days is if you want it to last get the version of that thing that was being sold in the 1950s-1970s. Maybe the 80's/90's depending on what it is. If it was made in the last 20 years it is almost always made to be thrown away in a decade or less.
I'm using Debian stable on my desktop but I also play games, AAA to indie, with the latest gadgets, e.g. Steam Controller or even VR headsets. I also control my house with IoT with single keypresses on my mechanical keyboard which has its own touchpach (no mouse) with individual RGB key. I have a more modern setup than most but I still stick to a stable distribution because one can have both, you just have to buy devices that respect your agency by relying on well supported and/or open protocols, e.g. BT or Zigbee.
PS: I get that it's humor, don't "explain" it to me. I also have a fixie bike because I got tired of trying to fix my proprietary e-bike so yes I can also feed the trope (in the sense of going "back" to older technologies outside the computer) but unfortunately beyond it is important that people understand it is actually incorrect.
TL;DR: tired trope, I have weird brand new e-gadgets and peripherals doing very demanding tasks while still relying on Debian stable.
You think it's important people understand your opinion that you barely explained coherently and at the same time you don't want anyone to explain it to you.
Is your middle name Karen or is that just your first name?
Go outside, touch grass, get some serotonin, you need it.
Why am I actually tired of that trope? Because when you propagate the wrong preconception that you need an unstable or quirky distribution to make Linux work with modern hardware, you are gatekeeping. You are preventing others from switching to Linux and it is due to your ignorance.
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TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 130 pts · 3d
Judging by this posi I should probably start using Debian stable
muzzle@lemmy.zip · 122 pts · 3d
rozodru@piefed.world · 33 pts · 3d
honestly man...it's not a bad decision. I for a long time didn't give Debian the time of day. Now i'm daily driving OpenBSD and I use a Debian VM on it for certain dev work (mainly builds and deploys) and then on my second NVME I first went with Bazzite to do gaming but then I changed my mind and was like "meh, debian" and it's solid. it's good. it stays out of my way for what I want to do on it which isn't much.
It's a decent distro that's just kinda there and you don't have to worry about it.
Dadifer@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 3d
Except the NVIDIA drivers are 40 versions behind and break every time the kernel updates.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 3d
It's perfect for my 8 year old laptop
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 3d
The Nvidia driver in the Debian repos is virtually abandoned, though thankfully the Cuda repos hosted by Nvidia support Debian now, and give Debian users access to the latest drivers, like 610.
helios@social.ggbox.fr · 5 pts · 3d
I enabled this repo last week on Debian 13 (RTX4080). While it technically works, I'd say it's not without risks for those not a little familiar with linux.
It first required some fiddling cause the file that is supposed to blacklist Nouveau on boot was renamed by apt as .save or something as a result of the package upgrades, so the system just started loading Nouveau instead of the new driver. Fixing this got me further, as the 610 proprietary driver finally loaded.
Sarting my usual plasma X11 session didn't work though. It launched but didn't display shit (grey boxes instead of windows and taskbar basically).
Having also plasma wayland available from sddm, I tried to launch this session and it got me a working desktop. So I ended settling with this. Wayland used to be crap on my system, but with this recent NVIDIA drivers, it's usable. My only real complaint is the extra latency on the mouse cursor.
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 3d
I also had some difficulty getting it working on my rig, and I'm not a big fan if Debian's documentation, as it often does assume knowledge, which makes it harder to follow along and feel confident you're doing the correct steps.
Ultimately I switched my only Nvidia system to standard Linux Mint to have access to their easy to use Nvidia driver installer, which makes upgrading or downgrading the driver a 1-click process (though it requires a third party PPA done by a canonical employee to access the latest 610 drivers).
Dadifer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Just wait until the kernel updates.
helios@social.ggbox.fr · 2 pts · 1d
I assumed using the repository instead of installing via the .run file would make the driver survive the next kernel upgrade, but time will tell.
Dadifer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
It does, but it's very far behind
TehWorld@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3d
My hardware is about 43 versions behind, so… we good. Kinda. Waiting for that bubble to pop.
x7HlPDq9dSNO6v3A9@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
I'm so glad it's not just me that's had this lol. My laptop blackscreened after a house move and when I saw the GPU was offline I thought it didn't survive the journey.
pmk@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 3d
Wait, openbsd can run debian vms?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 3d
Why wouldn't it be able to if it supports virtualization? Probably could run Windows VMs if you wanted to.
pmk@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 3d
vmm used to only support openbsd as guest os iirc, I guess it has added linux support.
rozodru@piefed.world · 2 pts · 2d
yup very easy to setup too. it's a VERY basic netinstall of Debian. but right now I have it to run builds, deploy, and even have nix on there to do some nixos stuff.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 3d
Where’s your 25 year old leather belt that has wear marks near every hole? Documenting your progression into middle age like tree rings.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
No 20 year old belt. But I do have a set of 20 year old suspenders or galluses if you prefer. I wear suspenders because I have a very large surgical scar from a ruptured appendix years ago. Belt are very irritating to wear.
ncc74656@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 3d
What the fuck? Who's been taking pictures of my stuff?
kadu@scribe.disroot.org · 41 pts · 3d
I went from cutting edge tech excited nerd to literally this picture, and life is better.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 3d
Me too, friend. Generational leaps were so cool when I was a kid. Now that I'm in my thirties, I just see it all as a rent-a-spy.
At this point, even my printer is suspect. It stays unplugged until it's needed.
But the phone? It's a shame the telephone is always listening.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 10 pts · 3d
I used to be so excited about a everything-digital during my teenage years. Now I look at my mechanical tools with joy, and become suspicious of anything not having an open firmware.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 2d
Best part is even when you do a major version update, Debian still doesn't break your shit. At least it never has with me. Can't say the same for most other ditros I've tried.
truthfultemporarily@feddit.org · 31 pts · 3d
I do use Debian stable and I do still use a calculator like that and a wallet I repaired many times.
If they're still working just fine, why replace them?
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 3d
Here's my actual wallet.
I bought it for $25 in 2009 and have carried it every day since. The fabric in the cash pocket has separated from the leather and the plastic window for my photo ID is missing. My wife told me I should buy a new one since this one's so worn. I said, "Why? It still works perfectly." Not a knock against her. We just have different ideas about the meaning of durability.
Whitebrow@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 3d
Literally a fossil.
Omnipitaph@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 3d
Are you calling them a fossil, or the wallet?
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 3d
This was my husband. He only bought a new one because he wanted one of the metal ones that just hold cards, that you can stick on the back of your phone. I spent 15 years with him before that, and he'd had the wallet at least 7 years when we met.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 3d
"Genuine fossil classic" just makes it better
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Similar, but I've had mine since 1996. It's Kenneth Cole brand. It's amazing how well it's held up.
I looked at replacing it a few years ago, but couldn't find one with the same features.
norkoris@lemmy.today · 31 pts · 3d
The Debian Stable lifestyle is appealing to me more and more every day now
acchariya@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 3d
I drive an older model manual transmission acura and use a 1980s style programmable thermostat with no smart features or connectivity. Use Debian stable with KDE. Checks out
KaRunChiy@fedia.io · 6 pts · 3d
I use arch linux and drive a 2001 sebring i found abandoned. My internet is a hotspot and i have 3 powerstrips hooked into a single outlet
recursivethinking@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3d
Sir, please step away from the everything.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 3d
"I'm in this picture and it's quite OK here."
My car is a 20 year old shitbox, my bike gets new brake pads and a bit of random lubricant on the chain once a year and other "maintenance" only when parts fall off, and my stereo is a mix of hand me downs from my dad's college days and some eBay home theatre stuff that got sold because it didn't support the newest HDMI bullshit.
Oh, and of course it is a Thinkpad, thanks for asking.
Just the other day, a friend of mine running Arch tried to install something, which resulted in him having to do a full system update, including fixing several "that should not happen" s. Meanwhile, every few years I spend an evening update to the newest stable, and never had bigger issues than the color of some icon being unfamiliar.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 2d
What?!
You haven't bowed to the gods of built-in obsolescence?! How dare you!?
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2d
Man I always hear about these people who have to fix random that should not happen things. Yet I haven't had that problem in a decade of using rolling distros.
While ever time I've ever had a fixed release cycle distro update it implodes. What black magic fuckery is this.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
I guess it depends on how much you can abuse or ignore it. Debian works just fine if you put it in a locker for 3 years and then try to update. With gentoo, if you didn't update for a week, you might as well reinstall :)
Arch is somehow in the middle, I had an arch VM that never had any problems except that certificate issue despite not getting many updates.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 1 pts · 2d
Different colored icon? Literally unusable! Time to distro hop
/jk
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2d
I feel like when humble-bragging Thinkpad it must be one of the models that became a Linux enthusiast meme.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2d
Nah, L390 Yoga. I wanted touch because i thought I'd use it, but it ended up in a docking station most of the time anyway. Upgraded RAM and SSD, battery still hold "a few hours" despite being 7+ years old. I figured those 8th gen quad cores would last a while, and so far, they do. Doesn't feel too terrible compared to my modern core u 235 work laptop.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
I don't have a Thinkpad myself. I do have a 10 year old Acer Aspire V3-372T. It's a perfectly cromulent laptop. I use it to listen to podcasts and YouTube. I check my emails sometimes. I check weather.gov. I have a copy of my music library. I write my personal budgets. It has a touchscreen that I never use. I get around just fine.
One day, I'll either get a Thinkpad or a Framework.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2d
Perfectly fine if it does what it should. That is imo the essence of this post: Better is the enemy of good. I wouldn't buy a new one (again), this one was a bit of an exception (customer return, with a little scratch), since used touch laptops with good performance were quite rare.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 3d
Dude, that GE clock is the best, that watch is also solid af. Plus look at all those nice old receivers, I bet they sound great.
Also what’s the hate on the tire gauge? Does another kind exist other than a slide stick? Does another fancier kind even need to exist?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 3d
Stick pressure gauges are bad.
Bourdon pressure gauges are the only pressure gauge to get. (Not bourdon brand but one that uses what is known as a bourdon tube).
They are analogue AND reliable over the long term.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
Gonna have to check these out. Unfortunately for my wife, now I have a reason to go to the hardware store lol
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 3d
That's cool looking, I'll look into those
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 2d
Yeah these are great. I've had one for years now without issue and they're accurate.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 4 pts · 3d
Allow me to present this abomination:
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
Why make a tire pressure gauge that needs batteries? Oh just what I want, to pull my bulky ass tire gauge out of my glove compartment and find it’s got corroded dead ass batteries cause it’s been sitting in there for a year untouched.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 3d
Beats me.
But it's definitely a thing that exists. I, unfortunately, got one as a birthday present once, way back when. Used it maybe once or twice, then went back to a normal slide gauge and haven't touched it since.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
Consistency. You can take 3 readings in a row with that stick and get 3 wildly different results. I have a $20 digital one from decades ago that gives me the same reading within 5kPa on each try.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
That's mostly a quality and skill issue. People cheap out and buy low quality gages. My 40 year old stick gage is as accurate as is needed and very repeatable in my hands. And it measures up to 150psi.
And remember, this stuff isn't that accurate anyway. It just good enough and that's it.
alltomorrowsregrets@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3d
jownz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
The battery died in mine.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
I have one of those in my glovebox. I think I bought it in 2003. My 2003 manual jap econobox has no need for TPMS. If a tyre is 30kPa too low, you can feel it.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 3d
Found a compact dial gauge version and it's so much better than those stupid sticks.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
They exist with a round dial as well. Personally I don't measure my tire pressure, ever. My car will tell me if one is low, and I'd go to a gas station to fill them to spec. Although lately I got a little compressor which goes in the cigarette lighter, which just lets you enter the desired pressure. I use that for the car, bikes, footballs and whatever else needs to be pumped to a given pressure.
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 17 pts · 3d
I’m in this picture and quite frankly it’s a great place to be. Everything either just works, I know how to fix it, or I at least know what is broken and not worth fixing.
Though that is a terrible style of air pressure gauge. Get a good dial one with the tube.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Or the tutorial written for Ubuntu users works without having to think about different package managers
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 3d
I have damn near everything in this photo except it's a 91 Honda accord and I don't have a PS2, I have an original Wii. I feel suspiciously called out.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3d
My real car is a 97 Honda Prelude, and yes, it is a manual. When my 2012 Civic had a dead starter motor, that Prelude was my daily driver for six months until the weather cooled off enough to actually do the job.
The Prelude is definitely more of a project/weekend car. Every car guy knows you never project your daily, but I feel pretty comfy dailying my project lol
mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 3d
Prelude is a sick car. Always fond of them and CRXs. 90s Honda/Nissan,Toyota were something else man.
RIP couch level comfort.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
I've got nothing but love for the Mazda NB Miata and the MX-6. The Subaru SVX was also dope.
Nissan is easy to glaze because the S13 is probably the most sought out neoclassic car that isn't the GT-R or Supra, but so much of their other stuff from the time gets overlooked. Like the Sentra SE-R or the Pulsar. The S-Cargo is my favorite because the joke is so layered. It's a cargo van that looks like a snail, and its name is pronounced escargot.
It's so cute, and I love it.
mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 3d
Thank you for this trivia! Such a cool car!
The coolest car I ever owned was an 81 VW Rabbit with a naturally aspirated diesel paired with a four speed manual. Was a dream of a vehicle and only broke down on me once.
I’ll always miss driving a cool retro car but I can’t justify it with my wife’s safety now a concern.
mbp@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 3d
Y'all seem cool as hell, you should leave your basement so we can meet sometime.
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 14 pts · 3d
The Toyota XV10 Camry is the best car ever produced and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on.
Zink@programming.dev · 13 pts · 3d
I feel at home in this photo. My beard has turned 1% more gray this blessed night.
The key differences I have come from the fact that I am drawn to the "chief engineer turned goose farmer" future even more than the "greybeard recluse inventor" one. I
get to use a Debian machine at work all day anyway, plus of course the home PC runs it. With KDE there is nothing that feels old about it unless I check when the kernel was released.
My car isn't THAT old but it's on its way. I drive an almost 15 year old mazda3, which we have owned for all of those years. I just did my biggest-yet DIY maintenance/repair when I had to replace some disintegrated-yet-seized brake hoses in addition to pads and rotors and flushing the fluid. In my driveway, no garage. I got a bunch of new wrenches and vise grips!
The mazda is an automatic since we originally bought it for my wife. But it was right after the company debuted the Skyactiv stuff. Among other things like great fuel efficiency, that means the transmission locks up the torque converter as often as possible. And it has manual shift mode. So when you're in gear holding some mid-range RPM, you do still feel that direct powertrain connection between engine and wheels.
Part of me is casually keeping tabs on the "fun" new car models out there that still offer a manual transmission or DCT. But another part of me is constantly noting to self how I already have a nearly perfect old familiar car that is fun and practical for the whole family. It has low mileage for the age and a good maintenance history. And it is $FREE versus $30,000+.
Aside from the car difference, I have cast off a bunch of little devices and accessories thanks to my conscious efforts to be less connected and more about experiencing life at my natural pace. I no longer wear a watch, ever, even though I definitely have the chunky leather wallet. Also no glowing visible clocks in the bedroom or family room. And no big stereo because 95% of my music listening is via headphones at work or working outside in my yard.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
My man.
Most of my listening is also done over headphones, and I admit that my library is all in mp3 format. As much as I love optical media, it's because I can rip my discs to my machine in whatever quality and format I want, then never have to handle them again unless all my copies are deleted. This preserves the discs.
I have a portable CD player from, and I use the term portalble liberally because while it can accept six AA batteries for a power source, it also has no anti-skip because it was made in 1991.
But what I love about this thing is how much of an occasion it makes the listening experience. Handling the discs carefully so as not to smudge or scratch them. Waiting for it to spin up and start playing. And just sitting there and intentionally listening to it. It's kind of magical. Even more so with a decent set of cans and a dark room.
Mazda3 is an excellent car to have. My brother used to have an '08 Mazda3 hatch until it was totaled by a drunk driver. He wasn't in the car. It was parked on the side of the road. Really cool car, and the 2.3 is probably one of the most underrated engines out there. They really pack a punch.
I don't necessarily have a thing against automatics. My beef is more with the fact that manuals aren't really an option anymore. I said in another comment that my real cars are a '97 Honda Prelude and a '12 Civic. I did daily the Prelude for six months when the starter died in my Civic, but the Prelude is really only a weekend car because it does maybe 25 mpg and takes premium fuel. My Civic does 40 without trying and E10 costs about $1.40 less per gallon where I am. My Civic is an auto, and I'm fine with it. Automatic just feels boring to me. I really enjoy having something to do with all four limbs at once.
If I ever feel like dropping money on a newer car, I've always loved the idea of a manual midsize sedan. I know the Accord could be had with a six speed manual all the way until like 2021, which is bonkers to me since Toyota stopped making the manual Camry in 2006. I think my only other option in this very specific segment is a BMW 3-series, and I just can't picture myself in a Bimmer.
Anything brakes is always so stressful. If anything else fails, you can probably still get the 3,000 pound metal death box to stop. But if your BRAKES fail? Yeah, just pull the hand brake and try not to cry too much. I basically rebuilt the rear brakes on my Civic last month. It has 147,000 miles on it and was running on original brake shoes. And because I'd waited until they started grinding, the drums couldn't be resurfaced, either. So I went all in and got new hardware and cylinders, too. I'd so much rather do disc brakes than drum brakes. Those springs are such a pain, and Honda made them really weird. Not to mention my hammer was entirely too small for the job of literally beating the brakes off the thing lol 2012 was the last year the Civic LX had drum brakes of any kind. I'm fine with drums. They really do last forever if you're not a monster on the brake pedal. I'm just glad I won't be doing brake shoes again for at least another 7-10 years.
My wife points out every new gray hair in my beard. One day, there will be so many new ones at once that she'll have to stop counting. For now, it's really cute. I love it.
Zink@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1d
MY man!
First, I appreciate that your comment is even longer than mine AND came with the multimedia.
I totally get what you mean about it being an occasion to listen to music with the old equipment. I had at least one portable CD player with no anti-skip. So not only can I feel some of that experience just through nostalgia, but then I start thinking about nerdy little kid me getting a player with anti-skip. It had a clear window on the lid, so I could see how the disc spun at 2x speed for while when starting a song or causing skips. I started to understand how it was filling a buffer and must have had a bit of extra RAM in there. And now middle aged me monitors and controls engine RPM all the time in my automatic car, lol.
On listening to MP3s, I see no issue there, but I have always been more of a videophile and less of an audiophile. However, I have also transitioned away from locally stored music, to just streaming from my Jellyfin server. Thanks to that practically eliminating audio size concerns, I just use FLACs of everything.
As high tech as that sounds, the server capacity also helps me discover music in the old-fashioned & natural way rather than algorithmically. When I realize I am missing some song I want, I will add as much of that band's entire discography as I have available. Then it's just a question of whether I listen to albums or random songs. Any songs that noticeably stroke my neurons the right way gets added to my single playlist of bangers, for when I don't want random or albums.
Finally, a manual transmission midsize sedan can still be had in a few non-BMW forms. I have actually been researching current fun-transmission new cars even though I don't plan to buy anything any time soon. Most of them will be performance oriented models that recommend premium, but most seem to be able to run regular these days with just reduced max hp. So just going off memory for now:
Civic Si - This might be your best bet. High fuel economy, great 6-speed, well equipped, well priced. I think it's in the Car & Driver top 10, with a 10/10 score, alongside the Type R which is like $20K more.
Mazda3 hatchback - ok it's not a sedan, but for some reason you can get a specific premium trim level of the hatchback with a really good 6-speed. It's also a FWD 2.5L that recommends regular unleaded.
Elantra N: 6-speed manual and 8-speed DCT available. Seems like an extremely fun performance bargain. Lots of tech and adjustability, including fancy LSD.
WRX: 6-speed AND full time AWD. I had one long ago and loved it. It isn't regarded as being quite as aggressive and refined as the Si and the N these days I think, but it's definitely a great all around vehicle and you aren't stuck with FWD if that matters to you.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
As a person old enough to have driven manuals from 3 on the tree to 4 and 5 speeds, to 4x2, 5x2, 5x3 and 5x4 double sticks, 10 speeds and 13 speeds. Rowing your own gears is highly over rated. And even worse in stop and go driving.
And I use Kinonite on a mini desktop.
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 12 pts · 2d
Older doesn't necessarily mean worse. Dependability is important for sure.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2d
It also doesn't necessarily mean more dependable. There definitely is a fallacy problem that many fall into where they believe old = reliable.
ericwdhs@discuss.online · 4 pts · 1d
That's true, but if you have a 20-year-old item that is still working and a different 5-year-old item that is still working and you know nothing else about them, the statistics do work out that the former will likely maintain its working condition longer. It's obviously not a hard rule, but as a rule of thumb, it exists for a reason.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 18h
Survivorship bias. Garbage products from 20 years ago are long gone.
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 2d
Well if it is reliable, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is a good way of looking at it too. This is fair though!
dawcas@scribe.disroot.org · 12 pts · 3d
I use Debian Stable and I don't have anything pictured there. Anyhow, it's getting late and I still have wood to chop and basketmaking to do. /j
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 3d
Name something I can’t do with Debian stable.
MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org · 33 pts · 3d
Get laid?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 3d
I'm sure it could run VRchat lol
Randelung@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
Run my camera driver. ISP4 is in kernel 7.2 I think. ;_;
Oh well, it's a matter of time.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
A very long time.......
Randelung@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Some time in '27 probably. Don't have to show my face during teams calls in the meantime. 🎉
rbos@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 3d
Well... use certbot's new dns persistence mode. That may be a few years before it gets in. May be in backports, haven't checked.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 3 pts · 3d
Run AI models with the latest Nvidia drivers.
But, that's a small sacrifice for me. I ain't giving up Debian for that.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2d
Pretty much any experimental Nvidia feature. By the time you have it working you aren't on debian anymore and have basically butchered the distro beyond reasoning.
Thrydwulf@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 3d
As I grow older, I began relating to this list more and more. But as one who is born closer to the 2000’s and raised by a sheltered, buys-only-brand-names parent; I find myself paralyzed when attempting to buy from used goods vendors that these things are only found at these days. Judging if “they’re still good” is a skill issue.
(I also use Ubuntu for similar reasons)
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 11 pts · 3d
I am in this picture and I feel awesome
Shifted to Debian from Ubuntu a few weeks back for my core infra. It could be a placebo but Debian feels way more snappy.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 2d
I see what you did there.
No advertisements in the CLI, you say?
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
Please regale me with more debian factoids. The only linux distro ive ever stuck with was ubuntu but ive been on it steadily for some time now. Your comment was the first time ive considered changing distro.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 4 pts · 2d
I have spent very less time on Debian compared to others on this thread. So I'm not very qualified to speak about this topic.
My silly observations
Some quirks when coming from Ubuntu
If you need to deploy a server with mainly docker workloads, just go with Debian. I have one last remaining Ubuntu server which I'll replace one day.
ozymandias117@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 2d
after all the snap package nonsense ubuntu is basically just 'debian but worse and less stable' Definitely check out debian. Imo the golden years of ubuntu are well done and buried at this point. Tho, i will never forget installing the first beta of the unity desktop on my school laptop way back when, this is all said with a deep love for the project, just cant imagine daily driving it actually having any advantages to other distros atm
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3d
It's missing daily medication for old age related illnesses and glasses.
I'm in this picture based on vibes, but don't possess the goods listed there.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 3d
Wait. Are you my Dad?
muzzle@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 3d
I feel seen. But I have a PSP, And my alarm clock is a squeezebox.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
I've also got a PSP. Those things will never not be cool.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 3d
I've got 3 of those.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 3d
I've got 3 of those :)
idealotus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3d
No Nokia 3310?
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
I tick most of these boxes and still have a rotary landline phone in service.
anime_ted@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2d
I feel targeted by this. Also how did you get into my house?
0x0@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 2d
It's a '96 manual transmission for sure, wallet's maybe 10yo, never cared for consoles and have some manuals laying around.
I've replaced some stuff with my smartphone though and prefer Devuan, Slackware and Gentoo. Of course Thinkpads.
assembly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3d
How am I supposed to check tire pressure without a pressure gauge? My manual transmission is reliable and so is my alarm clock.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 3d
A) Some modern cars have built-in pressure gauges and can tell you the pressure of each tire on a screen on the dashboard.
B) Some fuckers out there (for inexplicable reasons) like to use digital tire pressure gauges with little screens of their own. Why you'd want a tire pressure gauge that requires batteries when an analog one works fine ... that's beyond my understanding.
vrek@programming.dev · 2 pts · 3d
The problem with built in pressure gauges is they only work after driving a bit. If you fill your tires you never know it's enough or too much until after you leave and then you need to either give up or turn around
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3d
The admitted benefit of the digital ones are accuracy. Mechanical pop out gauges, or even dial gauge styles, they have limited accuracy at pressure below their spec and obviously don;t work at all or will be damaged by pressure above their spec.
E.g, for the pop out gauges, you'll usually see them sold in ranges of 5-30psi, 20-60psi, and 30-120 psi. 5-30 is good for lawn equipment, 20-60 for cars and light truck, 30-120 for heavy truck. A digital gauge covers all of them at once rather than needing 3 separate gauges banging around in the toolbox.
The digtial gauge can get you within 0.5psi while the mechanicals usually are within 2psi at best. And for big lawn or flotation tires that need like 3psi or less, forget it, you need digital, most mechanical gauges never even go that low..
assembly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
I’m not driving a race car to where I need tire pressure that accurate. The mornings here start cold and warm up so that line impacts my tire pressure more than the variance in the gauge not to mention the tires warm up during driving. It does seem nice to have a constant ability to see tires pressure in the dashboard though. I just don’t have that.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 3d
Yeah... But in 99% of situations, within 2psi is fine.
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 2d
I feel called out. Except my mechanical watch is a vintage USSR Podeba. And my 2001 car is a Lexus.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Hey, I've got the Vostok "Scuba Dude" Amphibia self winder dive watch and the Komandirskie army version manual wind. Rugged and reliable after all these years!
marcos@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3d
Yep. I need my computer to work so I can use it to make interesting stuff. I'm completely uninterested on the computer itself.
AFAIK, there's currently 1 option of OS that works.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 2d
If somebody can still fully operate with this stuff, I'm jealous.
It means they've figured it out and they're immune to almost all of the bullshit.
There's bound to be some bridge, somewhere, but even then, that only needs to be minimal. These people are heroes and have a special power.
QDgwZjQYdfbnMdMNQ@lemmy.cafe · 7 pts · 3d
Wow, I actually have the exact same radio alarm clock as the one pictured in the top right.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 3d
Guy probably still washes with bar soap.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3d
Fuck yeah, I do. Body wash comes in plastic bottles, and I love to reduce the plastic waste I make when I can. I also buy powdered laundry detergent.
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 6 pts · 3d
Yeah team bar-soap here.
It's just soap and when you use it you feel soapy and then you rinse it off and you feel like you've used soap.
Anything in a bottle is some concoction of bullshit woo-woo like honey and pomegranate or hibiscus petals and seal fur. As in, it's more marketing than soap.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
Same here.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 1 pts · 3d
Meanwhile Hyprland users don't know what soap is
/jk
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 3d
Hey, not everyone can afford to buy it, don't judge stealing out of necessity.
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 7 pts · 3d
I don't mind at all if people think I'm old, I kind of am.
Thing is, fancy new containerised packages have really changed the dynamic here.
I don't care if gnome is 5 years old. Everything I actually use is up to date.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
The
mint | opensuse | fedora | arch | gentoo | freebsd | openbsd | void | devuan | debianpipeline is real.Maybe nix will pull me from depths of stability soon before I get overconfident, try LFS, and promptly switch to pen & paper.
(Or try bedrock linux and spend rest eternity in the purgatory equivalent of distro-hopping)
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
I went straight from Ubuntu to Debian. It still took me a little bit to go from GNOME to KDE. I would not recommend new Linux users go straight to Debian from their first distro, but I'd been using Ubuntu on and off again since 2012 so when I decided to leave Windows in 2024, I also decided to leave Ubuntu for good and went straight to Debian. The idea that I set it and forget it and never have to worry about it was (and is) so appealing to me.
I've considered running Slack on my laptop, though.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3d
Seems like I also took the hard route. #YayMe
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
LMDE is the good middle ground. New user friendly, but with options to immerse yourself into the debianness if you need/want to
GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3d
I was using a mix of debian servers, arch thinkpads and macos macbooks at the point where I moved everything to NixOS (macbooks did not survive this transition and were donated due to never working properly because of t2 issues).
Nix is extremely hard. I mean, don't get me wrong, initial setup is easy, adding and updating packages is the easiest experience between all package managers out there, nixpkgs is overpowered as it has almost all the software that exists since there are no conflicting dependencies in nix. Getting something that is not in nixpkgs to run is impossible for a beginner (nixpkgs has steam-run to partially solve this, but results may vary). Getting to the point where a tornado may pass through your home and destroy all the hardware inside, and the whole recovery process from that point is about 20 minutes of your time, including the trip to the store for new hardware, requires significant effort, both time and mental, that most of us don't have. But the entire point is that it is possible with Nix!
If Debian is like owning a 90s Corolla, NixOS is like owning a factory that can make any car you like. You can choose to get a 90s Corolla, you can choose to get a newer Corolla, you can skip corollas entirely and make something new and fast. When the new and fast thing breaks, you can make a new car or go back to the Corolla. The Corolla comes completely ready to use by you from the production line. If you need to adjust the mirrors, you just make a new car with the correct mirrors setup. All the cars you make after that will come with the mirrors setup how you like them, because that is now a part of the manufacturing instructions the factory has.
The only caveat is that factory gets updates every 6 months and then your car building pipeline may break when you get the update. In three years I've been using nixos fixing those took about 5 minutes and usually boiled down to stuff like 'previously we had a list of car colors, passed as a string, now the factory expects to get a hex color code'.
Judging by the commit history, I moved most of my machines to NixOS after about 6 months building my config, then, 8 months later I rebuilt the entire thing from scratch when I understood nix enough to make everything truly modular.
I really doubt that once you've embraced NixOS you'd be tempted to use anything else or try LFS. NixOS is beautiful. NixOS just works (after 6 months of setup).
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3d
Seems like I skipped the whole pipeline amd went straight from Rasbpian to debian :p
I tried a bit of mint but it was too annoying to get something to run and bailed.
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1d
I'm in this image and I feel good about it, the manual transmission, the PS2 (although I did pick up a ps5 recently to play gta 6), the analogue watch, the leather wallet, I don't have a discman, but I do have an MP3 player, the seperate audio system with a turnable, the zippo lighter, and a classic scientific calculator. All things I use frequently.
And yes I use Debian stable
dimmuborgnine@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
I always thought Debian stable was basically just for the ISS
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 3d
It shines in infrastructure roles, so you're not entirely wrong. I started using it for my self-hosting recently after ubuntu server fell off.
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 2d
Is that tire pressure gauge archaic? It's handy & effective & requires no electricity. I keep one in my glove box.
BillMurray@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 2d
No shit, do people not check their tire pressure? WTF?
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Many cars these days have built in tire pressure monitors and will light your dash with a warning light when it is low. Both my vehicles do that. I still carry a tire gauge in my glove box though.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1d
Some of these tire pressure sensors transmit unencrypted data via radio. You can use that to track people.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
That might be, but the 10 year old vehicles I own are not very likely to do that.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Nah air pumps at the store usually come with them.
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
I choose to believe that you're the authentic Bill Murray from OG Ghostbusters.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 5 pts · 1d
Casio for calculator but Hamilton for watch??
I'd expect a Debian fanatic to have a Casio watch as well!
FE80@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
The future is fuckin weird.
blaggle42@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 2d
Omg, I loved that calculator.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
It saw me through five years of math classes. I think I ultimately stored it improperly and something heavy broke the display.
It deserved better.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 2d
I once owned that exact alarm clock!
nycvin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
I will brook no argument regarding Hamilton field watches. Buy one, wind it, wear it. Start living a better life.
AbKingPro@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2d
Just bought a murph a few days ago its pretty good so far!
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
I used to have basically that thermostat. Slightly different model. I "upgraded" because the "smart" ones were supposed to save money. Saw my bills go up right away. Regretted the Nest Thermostat almost immediately.
And that wallet is in better condition than mine right now. Fuck it, I'll take everything in that photo, but swap out the manual for an automatic.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Oh my. My one daughter just published 2 research papers on household thermostats. And according to her long term testing, Nest is one to definitely avoid.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
If she's willing to share, I would love to read those papers.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I can ask. I think she has presented them at a symposium this month. I think they might be in print next month.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
I also ditched my "dumb" thermostats but went the DIY route. I put at least one temp sensor in each room/zone. Then switched out the actual thermostats with hard-wired Shelly relays from ameridroid. Everything is in a Zigbee network governed by "Better Thermostat" in Home Assistant.
A bit more work, yes, but everything stays local, I have all heating and cooling in one dashboard customized to my preferences, and the system is modular and extendable - next will be further automation with open door and window sensors + better presence detection.
BlindFrog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
May someone explain the audio (or video, idk) cabinet stacked like a 20u rack? Why so many devices? What would each be for?
chippydingo@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2d
I'll take the bait. This is a classic AV rack setup which is a relic of the bygone era. Looks like a pretty typical configuration with a Receiver/amplifier, CD player, Laser disc player(?), double tape deck, and a VHS Cassette player. And of course you have to have the colossal speakers to accompany this technological tour de force from the early 90s. The little box may be a headphone amp but not sure.
Once you had all of this, you officially made it. I never quite did and this is one of my many regrets. I will go back to the nursing home now...
hansolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 2d
The little box looks like it has the DirecTV logo on on the right side, might be a receiver for that. There's no VCR, but it does look like a mix of audio and video equipment based on the unplugged RCA trio.
Laser disc is a solid maybe. A radio tuner is in there somewhere, too. My thought is above the amp, which is above the tape deck.
chippydingo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
Haha, I was too lazy to zoom in on the picture but now I can see that the bottom unit was not a VCR like I initially thought. Point to you, internet stranger :)
Shaunhitorigoto@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 2d
Well you kinda just answered your own question. Put in anything you want, VHS player, DVD player, CD player, AV receiver, amplifier etc. My grandad had an LD player in one of these lol. Basically everything netflix and spotify gives you but you gotta manage it yourself.
ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
Don't threaten me with a good time.
xSikes@feddit.online · 4 pts · 3d
It works
RevolverSly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
That's the point: stable
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 3d
I'm a big fan of all those things.
I don't run Debian, but I don't mind it at all either.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
I feel personally attacked
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 2d
That is where my wallet went, you dick!
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2d
I feel there should be a classic leatherman utility knife in here too lol
dimmuborgnine@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Excuse me, mine is a skeletool. Very futuristic. Very manufactured by Leatherman.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 3 pts · 2d
Hey that's my dad's stuff, give it back!
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3d
Hamilton watches are pretty fucking nice though.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
I do have a mechanical Hamilton Khaki field watch. I love it. They're not cheap, but it's such a nice watch. My wife bought it for my for my 30th birthday because I'd been telling her for years that I'd wanted one. Given the expense, I only wear it for occasions like family get-togethers or dinner dates.
So this is my daily driver.
Been ticking for over 10 years without issue now. I just replaced the band because the old leather band did finally give up the ghost. Other than that, this has also been a great watch.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2d
I don't think you can just drop that you own a Field Khaki without paying the tax (meaning: pics).
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3d
Yeah I was gonna say the same thing. I have a Khaki King II and it’s excellent. The Khaki Field in the picture is also great, I want to get one.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Hey, those old school Craftsman ratchets and wrenches last forever. My dad bought a set in the 70s, he died in 2023 and they were one of the things I kept in the aftermath and they are way better than the ones I have bought for myself over the years that are much newer.
My advice to anyone these days is if you want it to last get the version of that thing that was being sold in the 1950s-1970s. Maybe the 80's/90's depending on what it is. If it was made in the last 20 years it is almost always made to be thrown away in a decade or less.
mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud · 2 pts · 3d
I use Debian as my homelab OS, have done for years. But I don't have anything in that picture, I'm still to young?
Mind you, 1983 is old
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
Yes, I use Debian stable. Oh, you need to borrow my pen?
assertnull@programming.dev · 2 pts · 3d
I still keep my hp-42s calculator nearby
fritobugger2017@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
I still have a working HP-41C in my desk at the office.
randomdude@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 3d
where ThinkPad?
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 2d
0x0@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2d
That's a ThiccPad, wrong model.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" starter pack
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
Absolute chad
Randelung@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
But apparently from a time when it came exclusively as a CD.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3d
Well, guess I've gotta try Debian...
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 18h
Pic needs a Glock 19
auzy1@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
There is something nostalgic about Gnome 1/2. i do miss them
owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
Debian Sid?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2d
Is that a seagull watch?
pokexpert30@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 2d
Hamilton Khaki Field
utopiah@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2d
This is so dumb it is tiring...
I'm using Debian stable on my desktop but I also play games, AAA to indie, with the latest gadgets, e.g. Steam Controller or even VR headsets. I also control my house with IoT with single keypresses on my mechanical keyboard which has its own touchpach (no mouse) with individual RGB key. I have a more modern setup than most but I still stick to a stable distribution because one can have both, you just have to buy devices that respect your agency by relying on well supported and/or open protocols, e.g. BT or Zigbee.
PS: I get that it's humor, don't "explain" it to me. I also have a fixie bike because I got tired of trying to fix my proprietary e-bike so yes I can also feed the trope (in the sense of going "back" to older technologies outside the computer) but unfortunately beyond it is important that people understand it is actually incorrect.
TL;DR: tired trope, I have weird brand new e-gadgets and peripherals doing very demanding tasks while still relying on Debian stable.
0x0@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 2d
You think it's important people understand your opinion that you barely explained coherently and at the same time you don't want anyone to explain it to you.
Is your middle name Karen or is that just your first name? Go outside, touch grass, get some serotonin, you need it.
utopiah@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2d
damn that was helpful, insulting someone rather than asking for clarification, blocked and reported.
0x0@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 2d
Buhu
utopiah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Why am I actually tired of that trope? Because when you propagate the wrong preconception that you need an unstable or quirky distribution to make Linux work with modern hardware, you are gatekeeping. You are preventing others from switching to Linux and it is due to your ignorance.
koyakow@thelemmy.club · -1 pts · 2d
l use debian and l dont like this ? (!)