Nvidia CEO: Everybody should use AI. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When cars came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
http://apnews.com/article/nvidea-huang-artificial-intelligence-8334abcbc6ed8d3d7889b640ec6fa05b
198 Comments
ceenote@lemmy.world · 244 pts · 48d
Everyone has to start buying my product. We have no choice. I don't make the rules.
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 48d
Happy cake day!
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 48d
And to you as well!
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 48d
Woohoo!!
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 48d
People are always asking me if I know you
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 48d
Shhhh... We don't talk about that.
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 48d
Oh sorry. I haven’t been getting much sleep lately. Everything feels like a copy of a copy of…
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 48d
I am Jack's total lack of surprise
celia@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 34d
I advertised it to your eyeballs 28 times this month and after you accidentally bought it once I'm going to advertise 100 more times.
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works · 184 pts · 48d
Everyone should use guillotines. Society has no choice but to change. I used to be a parasite. When the revolution came along, you obviously can't be a parasite now
Lemming6969@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 48d
In reality, everyone should use securities backed loans. You have no choice but to change. I used to be starving. You can't be a poor anymore.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 119 pts · 48d
When cars came along? How old is he?
Carnelian@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 48d
He also thinks there are one billion people on earth total. So between that and the invention of cars being in his memory, I think we can place him solidly in the mid 1800’s?
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 48d
Fucking vampires
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 48d
Wait.....maybe AI isn't wrong all the time. Maybe it was just programmed by CEOs that are wrong all the time!
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 47d
That’s why CEOs think it’s right all the time and so dangerous. Be cause they’re deluded morons who don’t know it’s wrong.
Rawrosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 47d
I just took that statement to be a mask off moment where he reveals just how little he thinks of most humans. He can't really be stupid enough to think there are only one billion humans on the planet?
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 11 pts · 47d
A billion who matter maybe. Then the other 7 are just ... there, sort of
Rawrosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 47d
Yea. I am inclined to read it as him just seeing people who can afford Nvidia products count towards being human.
moendopi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
Was this in the article or is this something he said elsewhere?
Carnelian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
It was tucked into a recent speech. I watched a timestamped link. He really said it and it really sounded like he meant the sum of all people.
Defenders say that he was implicitly referring to people who are “computer users” or would be engaging with his company’s products or whatever. If true, I don’t know if that’s better lol
Rothe@piefed.social · 3 pts · 46d
Defenders = sanewashers.
moendopi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
Ah, cool, thanks.
nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf · 35 pts · 48d
Huang was born and spent early childhood in the city of Taipei. In 1968, by the time he was five years old, there were 17,000 cars and 75,000 motorcycles† in the city with population of 13,801,200‡, with one car per 812 people.
Sources:
† Taipei MRT celebrates its 30th birthday | EuroView, 2026
‡ Population records increases in Taiwan | CountryEconomy
fascicle@leminal.space · 3 pts · 48d
How old was he before cars were invented and playing in the street though
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 47d
Saburo Arasaka was born in 1919 in Japan... wait, sorry, wrong biography. This corporate villain was born in Taiwan in 1963.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 47d
"Please use my product so I don't have to sell one of my yachts".
tuxiqae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 47d
FTFY
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 47d
his jackets.
Jiral@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 47d
Turns out, if you don't sacrifice cities on the car altar and plan for quality of life instead, children can in fact play on the streets. The Netherlands show it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 47d
dont you mean sacrifice City resources to giant DATACENTERS altar.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 48d
The AI bubble depends on this kind of brainwashing to stay inflated. But they can't escape the truth, that AI is an answer looking for a question that isn't necessarily being asked. Sure there are useful applications, but I don't actually need it for anything I do.
It seems to be a big deal to people who don't know how to do a lot of stuff. I already know how to do a lot of things, and I know how to find info by reading when I need to learn something, so the most popular use cases for AI don't apply to me and I just don't use it.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 48d
I've seen applications that are very useful. YouTuber Berm Peak used ai to bypass the controller of the world's worst ebike so it wouldn't become e-waste and fix it's worst flaws. Yes new firmware could have been written from scratch. But he fixes bikes. He's not a software developer.
It's like you don't need a ball point pen to write, you could use a quill and save the plastic waste. But quills are so slow you don't even consider it.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 16 pts · 47d
So in other words... it's a big deal to people who don't know how to do a lot of stuff.
I actually know how to write software, and I refuse to work on any code an LLM has touched. Critical thinking is one of the most important parts of programming, and LLMs can't do it. That results in broken spaghetti code that's a nightmare to fix, because the AI never stopped to think about maintainability, low coupling, or the actual purpose of the software. It can't stop and think.
If Berm Peak would rather use AI than hire a software developer or write his own code, then I hope all of Berm Peak's customers use AI to fix their bikes instead of going to him.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 47d
It's also a big deal to the extremely competent developers. The other person I saw use AI which makes me want to try it is Limor Fried. I watched one of her videos where she input a 50 page microcontroller pdf and got useable io mapping header files for her c code. Matching pins to ports in a doc that's spreads the info out across many pages is a huge grind.
It's not like I'm illiterate, but I'm open to using a plastic ball point pen instead of catching and killing a goose to make my own quill.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 47d
A dude DYI'ing his bike isn't something to even take into account...
Like saying screwdrivers are useful because I used one once to hammer in a nail because I didn't have a hammer and I had no idea what I was doing... Doesn't mean the screwdriver was useful in that instance, it just means I was too incompetent to use the right tool and knowledge for the job.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
I'm old enough to remember Hypercard. It was a revolution for regular people to create the one off app they needed to fix their own problems.
Hypercard was a nightmare for professional development. But it didn't matter. It was a tool for regular people.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 47d
God, he is such an insufferable dick and no jack ass, kids still play in the streets even with the cars but I wouldn't expect a out of touch billionaire to even understand a bit of actual life and no, I don't want your AI slop anywhere near my life.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 47d
One of the worst takes of all time
lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de · 17 pts · 47d
From the guy that brought us: "All the CPUs in the past were built for humans, this CPU is built for agents."
Dude just invented fictional customers by selling directly to the AI. 😅
Rothe@piefed.social · 6 pts · 46d
Also "There are only 1 billion humans..."
NickwithaC@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
It's more of an argument for getting rid of cars than for using AI.
sonofearth@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 47d
c/fuck_ai and c/fuckcars collab
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 44 pts · 47d
Man, I didn't know they didn't have cars back in the 60s.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 47d
To be fair, he was born in Taiwan, just 20 or so years after the ROC retreated from mainland China.
He then lived in the city of Tainan and later in Thailand.
Then, also consider what he may have ment by "when car came along", I would read it less litteral and more like "when mass car ownership came along".
One or two cars in the area per day won't prevent anyone from playing in the streets, but when that increases to hundreds per day, that changes things.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 47d
CEO says thing in attempt to force thing to be true because it’s beneficial to CEO.
Bezos does the same shit.
Zuck tells them to be happy because AI, too.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 47d
If an LLM spat this out we would call it a hallucination.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 47d
I spat my drink out reading this
rmrf@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 47d
I disturbed my wife reading next to me reading this
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 46d
But his press training will call it "spin"
blackjam_alex@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 47d
Everyone should start digging said the shovel salesman.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
". . . their own graves because we're not going to feed them with wages now that AI can do their job" added the rich.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 47d
Everybody should use guns. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When guns came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
Everybody should use drugs. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When drugs came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
I'm seeing a pattern here...only bad things work in his example.
7101334@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
Hey now, some drugs are very good things
Almost no AI is
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 46d
Are you trying to use guns and drugs as examples of bad things? Because I personally believe more people should have a certain amount of guns and allowed to experience a certain amount of drugs. If willing.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 47d
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 47d
"CAR!"
shuffles net to the curb
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 47d
jtrek@startrek.website · 34 pts · 48d
Cars and car-first infrastructure have been massively bad ecologically, socially, and environmentally.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 48d
Everbody should use cars. Society has no option but to change.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 14 pts · 47d
Planes too. Everyone should have a helicopter pad or they are a fucking luddite
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 5 pts · 47d
It's inevitable
Feyd@programming.dev · 32 pts · 48d
I wish he would play in the streets now
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 48d
Better yet, play on the freeway
Etterra@discuss.online · 32 pts · 47d
You know, he's right - we should start investing in mass transit so we don't need the cars, and kids can play in the street again.
Seldon@discuss.tchncs.de · 31 pts · 47d
Rich-asshole/CEO-says-a-thing journalism. They say something completely absurd, and it actually makes its way around the news and memes. I swear, if we stop reporting these imbeciles and sharing this nonsense, half of the internet would have no idea what to do. The internet thrives and dies on these stupid souless pointless reactionary news articles, Tiktok dancing and tide-pod eating/trendy bullshit, and LLM stupidity.
1984@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 47d
You mean social media, not the internet. You can go to websites about cooking and find nothing about these guys there. :)
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 27 pts · 48d
I’d rather burn down your headquarters than use your shitty, unreliable, insane environment killer.
But honestly, this guy is an asshole. He doesn’t seem to care about selling this to people. In fact, he’s practically openly hostile to people. He’s always talking to and selling to companies and government (America, mostly?)
It’s the most “bubble” fucking thing I’ve ever seen.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 47d
Is he being pro-AI or anti-car?
krisevol@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 47d
Hes pro car. He sells a lot of hardware for car manufacturing self driving tech.
1984@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 47d
Anti walk in traffic I guess.. :)
palarith@aussie.zone · 27 pts · 47d
Fuck cars
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 47d
I'm in the US. Kids still play in the street.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 47d
I strongly suspect this jackal doesn't predate cars.
I also strongly suggest kids preferred not to play in the ditches we used to call streets before cars.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 47d
When cars come along you just yell "Car!" and get out of the street.
ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
Game on!
HelloDingo@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 46d
Game on!!
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 47d
Hey! I'm walking here !
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 46d
"Dealer high on own supply says everyone should get high"
ecvanalog@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 46d
How…how old are you, Jensen?
matdave@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 46d
I'd guess late 1800's. It always sucks when people don't realize until they look old the key to immortalilty is just eating a fresh baby once a year.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 44d
nature's own 8766-hour energy
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 48d
He should definitely go play in the street.
black0ut@pawb.social · 4 pts · 47d
In the middle of a highway, if it's possible. And don't wear any hi-vis, your leather jacket is so cool, you should keep it on.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 48d
Everybody should use wheelchairs. Society has no use for legs anymore. We have no choice but to amputate our legs. I used to have legs but now I have a wheelchair, so I don't need them anymore.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 4 pts · 47d
Wheels are more efficient.
db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 47d
This guy sounds like someone who has been told how smart he is a few too many times in elementary school.
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
And now that he's surrounded by paid Yes Men, it just reinforces his skewed viewpoint
db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 47d
The Yes Men are nothing compared to the big Yes Machine he keeps pushing
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 47d
Then WE should be the ones benefiting, not scumbag parasite corporations.
7101334@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
I get what you mean but without sufficient sources of renewable energy - which do not exist right now and cannot be expanded without exploitation of miners (including children) in the Congo and elsewhere - there's no way this technology can benefit us in a net sense. Summaries of messages we read anyway and uncanny simulations of celebrities eating pasta will never offset the damage inherently caused to the natural world by the energy consumed by the slop machine.
Like there are no ethical billionaires, there's no ethical generative AI (except for early-development-stage medical / science stuff like protein combinations or cancer diagnoses, though I think the cancer-detecting AI is way older than current gen AI)
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 19 pts · 46d
Different idea, how about we get the cars out of the way of the children again, and also shun LLMs?
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 19 pts · 47d
“Why won’t you use my gimmick?” (。╯︵╰。)
LemmyThinkAboutIt@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 47d
felixwhynot@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 48d
!fuckcars@lemmy.world
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 11 pts · 48d
Yeah this dude is clearly detached from the conversation, because people have been realizing that car superiority was a massive mistake and we should be correcting it. Like unfettered AI expansion
utopiah@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 46d
Good thing movements reclaiming streets back for citizens already exist. In fact even businesses who initially opposed this actually realize it's better for them too.
Looks at photos of Amsterdam and Paris just decades ago. It's like smoking in planes.
We as a society try, fail, learn, and overcome BS.
MisterCurtis@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 48d
Dude is older than cars?!
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 48d
Cars were invented yesterday. Don't worry. Facts don't matter in 2026. It's all lies from the government, and AI for the masses.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 48d
Do what i want, slaves.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 47d
If their product was really that incredible they wouldn't need to sell it so god damn hard.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 47d
Fuck you Jensen, jaywalking is a fake made-up crime.
No you really, ask your AI model to figure out the most creative way in which to go fuck yourself.
Holyginz@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 47d
He has sunk so much money into the hindenburg that is the AI bubble at this point he is just trying to convince anyone who will listen.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 47d
Laughs in car Free zones
Scrollone@feddit.it · 4 pts · 47d
i.e. The best zones
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 47d
People have reclaimed some of the public space that we lost to cars. Losing rights and privileges to new technology is not as inevitable as Jensen Huang wants to present it.
Car-free streets, streets with restricted access, streets where cars have the lowest priority, temporarily closed streets, ... I don't know a single commune that doesn't have some of these, it's not the 1970s anymore.
LordCrom@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 47d
Where I grew up, streets were the only place to play.
Yell car and move to the side. Then resume your street football game.
hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 47d
Party on Wayne!
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
My kids still very much do this to this day. I'm sure in Saratoga or wherever this chode lives, nobody does, but us working class folks are still at it.
dellish@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 47d
So what were the streets for then?
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 47d
I assume he's thinking of just "streets" made for horses/wagons.
He thinks he remembers a time before cars.
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 48d
Is every sentence out of this idiot's mouth stupid? Or is it 50:50?
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 48d
The problem with his dumbass analogy is that people actually wanted cars.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 47d
He should take that stupid fucking leather jacket off and get in touch with reality.
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 47d
There’s another jacket underneath.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 46d
He has actually replaced his frontal cortex with a ganglion in a leather jacket.
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 48d
I think he should still play in the street
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 48d
'Away and play with the traffic' my dad used to say when I was being a pest when I was a kid.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 47d
Oh, well then, I guess the asshole has spoken, so we all just fall in line.
The only thing nice I have to say about this shitstain is he's temporarily sequestered a bit of carbon.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 46d
Just like AI was made to make people think less, cars were made so people couldn't play on the streets anymore so we would have less Vitamin D and physical activity. First step to domination is weakening your enemy.
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 47d
x-post to c/FuckCars 🙃
rockandsock@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 47d
Eh, I'm fine with him playing in the streets. He's old enough to make his own choices.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 48d
Suck my Huang, Jensen, and then kindly fuck all the way off.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
Sounds like he's saying he values cars more than children. I mean, yeah, both can be noisy and annoying, but only one will grow up to pay tax.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
Nah, I think think he secretly wants all those children to work for his company instead.
/s
vane@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 48d
Funny thing is that if we all play on the streets for a month all their money will be worth nothing.
londos@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 48d
Fuck cars too.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 48d
I love my Nvidia Shield and my 1080ti. They are some of the best tech purchases I have ever made. That said...fuck this weirdo.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 48d
Violence is no solution but goddamn would I celebrate if that man got shot.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
肏你祖宗十八代!
There's a huge difference between the Gutenberg press and this crapola reasoning; that printer advanced knowledge. Fuckin AI might as well reverse all that was learned by causing most people to forego learning and become LAZY.
nullify3112@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 48d
Wow, poking the anti-AI and the anti-car people — not realizing that Venn diagram is concentric circles. (Intentionally using — just like my AI overlords)
Peanutbuttergrits@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 48d
Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 47d
I used to play footy in the street. Lived on a bus route . We'd just yell "CAR", and then get out of the way. Once the vehicle had passed, we'd get back to it.
What, exactly should I use your bullshit hallucination machine for. It can't even answer a question correctly, or in less than four paragraphs
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 47d
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 47d
Do not use their services. You are being used as training data.
AI companies are hemorrhaging money all by themselves, don't give them a penny and don't give them your speech.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 47d
Everybody should use AIAI should be optionalFIFY
maybe next time i should buy AMD, i love my GTX 1650 though. (I dont mind not being able to run modern AAA at high fps,Slower tokens per second,etc.)
i like Local AI cause its solve most of the ethics problems for me(i dont like AI datacenters)
i tend to not share any AI prompts due to possible training on anything copyrightable problem.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
AMD is just as bad. It only looks better, because it doesn't have the resources to pull of all the crazy shit that Nvidia does.
And so is Intel. There's no good choice when it comes to dekstop CPUs and GPUs, unfortunately.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 47d
ofc they aren't very good(both are public companies at the end of the day so they wont be very good,the most they can be is "good".),but i mean they are much better then Nvidia. (ig?)
and it would be cool if we got RISC-V consumer processors.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
That's the dream, but both Intel and AMD will spend all of their money on ensuring it doesn't happen.
In this regard Nvidia is actually the least bad of the three. It's already manufacturing ARM SOCs, and isn't opposed to RISC-V either, since it'd be theoretically more profitable than ARM. No ARM royalties => more money for Jensen.
Especially with the recent RTX Spark announcement. Nvidia is perfectly willing to invest a lot of resources into ARM, while Intel and AMD are both investing resources into sabotaging it.
ARM isn't RISC-V of course, but close enough. Many companies investing into ARM invest into RISC-V as well, including ARM giants like Qualcomm, because it only makes sense.
If it wasn't for the AI bubble, I could consider Nvidia to be better than Intel or AMD overall. I'd still probably buy AMD's desktop GPUs over Nvidia's though.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 47d
i assume Nvidia never made their own architecture(so they are investing into ARM64/RISC-V) and AMD/intel are investing into x86_64(Intel created x86 and AMD X86_64)
krisevol@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 47d
Buy a 50 series card. Mfg has lower latency than raw uncapped, and if you have a 500hz oled is the only card on the market that can get those frames because of it.
It's crazy how good the 50 series is.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 47d
am using Linux so AMD is probably better for me
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 48d
Cars don't have the ability to know more about me than I know myself, or empty my savings account, or decide that I'm a threat to the prevailing order by reading through the sum of my online content, or manipulate or replace me.
JordanZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 46d
Jensen’s leather jacket shtick is worse than Zukk’s necklace bling bullshit. CEO “cool” consultants living the dream making these guys look like absolute clowns.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 47d
He was alive before cars were around? This is mildly concerning. I guess that zoro ranch baby jerky really increases their lifespans
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 47d
potustheplant@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 47d
/s?
K1nsey6@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 48d
I remember seeing videos in the early 80s when US federal seatbelt requirements went into effect and everyone in an uproar about it. Screaming government overreach, the nanny state, etc. Now anyone not wearing a seatbelt is an idiot.
AI will end up being a useful utility and those opposing it the loudest now will no longer be loud about it. Right now it's expensive, it's inefficient, it uses too many resources much like cars from the 80s compared to cars now. As Moore's Law kicks in it will use fewer resources, become more efficient, and more accurate
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 48d
Cars now use too many resources.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 48d
Compared to 30 years ago?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 48d
If you compare similar models, yeah. A modern Corolla is like 500 pounds heavier. Let’s not get started on trucks, or the fact that most cars are now SUVs.
Plus there’s a hell of a lot more of them.
And more roads. And more parking lots.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 48d
I'd much prefer reliable, clean public transit, and it's entirely doable. But better cars too because people.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 5 pts · 48d
So AI of the future will be more useful in more cases and use less energy and other resources. Based on... nothing within the AI technology, but on a very loose analogy.
dracc@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 47d
Tell me you don't know how the technology works without telling me. The "good" models are huge. They make servers larger than your local town centre run on full load for every query. There's no throttle to hold them back, as that doesn't help. It'll always be full speed ahead. And the results are based on probability, with a factor of bullshit baked in as part of the design. Yes, computers become more efficient over time, but that doesn't help when you keep pushing them to go full speed all the time. The thirstiest CPU in the original Pentium family used to consume 17.3 Watts at full speed. Today, the Intel Xeon w9-3595X slurps 462 Watts given the chance. The Nvidia B200 datacenter GPU has a TDP of 1000 Watts. And data centers have thousands of these running, full speed, for LLMs to serve us hallucinated "facts".
Badabinski@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 48d
There are very probably architectural limitations which will prevent large language models from ever getting much better than they are right now. They are most likely a dead end.
Feyd@programming.dev · 2 pts · 48d
Seatbelts in cars actually do what they say on the tin. LLMs have some uses but for most things they don't do what they say on the tin. AI boosters and bad comparisons. Can't name a better duo
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · -8 pts · 47d
"AI businessperson suggests the future is AI"
If that infuriates you, you'll be infuriated a lot.
7101334@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
Righteous fury is a good thing.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 46d
It's been responsible for a lot of unnecessary death, and the splintering of a lot of organisations that could have done good otherwise. Often both at the same time. That's because everyone has a slightly different idea of righteousness.
Shitty historical events seem to relate to either too much or not enough of it.
7101334@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
Canadian moment
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -36 pts · 48d
Unpopular opinion: He’s right. As much as I love to hate ai, it’s becoming a necessity.
I fucking hate “AI”. I hate that companies are betting their companies and employee’s livelihood on something they know isn’t correct ALL of the time. And not just companies, but governments and militaries. Not to mention the damage infrastructure is doing to support it.
However, it’s a tool and has it’s time and place. People just can’t put their head in the sand and pretend it’s not there. If you’re fighting it you’re going to be left behind.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 48d
What is it necessary for?
Feyd@programming.dev · 26 pts · 48d
All I know is that it's changing every month but also I have to start using it every month for the past 3 years or I'll be obsolete and someone that uses it will take my job. Lolz
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
Lol, my boss has tired using ai to speed things up and all we got in return was unhappy clients.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 47d
This is exactly my point.
And the point of the article.
Feyd@programming.dev · 2 pts · 47d
If you didn't originally you should read my comment as if it is absolutely dripping with disdain and sarcasm.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 47d
In the tech industry, this is a reality.
Feyd@programming.dev · 1 pts · 47d
I'm in the tech industry you buffoon
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 47d
Now we’re resorting to name calling? Grow up.
I’m just trying to have an intelligent conversation. Clearly, this isn’t going to happen.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -18 pts · 48d
For the tools it is actually useful for; everyone has their thing.
I didn’t say it doesn’t have it’s evils. But it’s like saying the internet was going to be a fad. It’s not going anywhere and people are taking advantage of it. If you’re not keeping up with it, you’re doing yourself a disservice.
E: and yeah, I know it’s Lemmy and everyone is anti ai and even the slightest amount of non-hate is downvotes. I’m high and honestly don’t care. :)
protist@retrofed.com · 10 pts · 48d
The internet is a communications tool though. When you look at the history of communications development, from postal service to telegraph to telephone to internet, the internet fits right in there very neatly as the next step. AI is a totally new thing and doesn't have any particularly comparable analogs in the past. Anyway my point is I don't think it's comparable to the internet
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 47d
GenAI is extremely destructive technology, so it deserves all the hate thrown at it, and the usefulness is still so-so at best.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
How can you bitch about down votes when you have no answer to my question?
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 47d
I’m not sure what gave you the impression I cared about made up internet points. In fact, I literally said I didn’t care.
As for your question, different people have different needs. For me, I work in the tech industry. AI is changing everything in cybersecurity, programming, data analytics, medical research, the list goes on.
I understand not everyone works in tech. And yes, it has it’s evil. But it’s not going anywhere.
I’m not, nor have I said previously that it’s the end all, be all. I did say it had it’s uses.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
There seems to be a big difference between what the media and AI slop enthusiasts say about AI and what I've experienced with people using AI or AI being integrated into everyday items. At best, the results are mediocre, while using up huge amounts of resources to get there.
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world · -22 pts · 48d
Coding.
As a life long software developer, the speed at which I can build things is increasing significantly with AI. I’m not talking about vibe coding specifically, but even for maintaining existing projects, it’s a pretty powerful tool.
protist@retrofed.com · 12 pts · 48d
Most of us don't code, though
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
Aside from that, it’s very elaborate code and not exactly free of issues. But worry not, it’s tested with more genai.
Feyd@programming.dev · 11 pts · 48d
Funny. You'd think we'd have more software if all you people that claim it's rocket fuel weren't full of shit, but all I see more is more shitty shovelware no one gives a fuck about, vibe coders overwhelming real open source devs, and historically good stuff like rsync getting fucked up
jtrek@startrek.website · 7 pts · 48d
The people at work who use AI the most know the least. They add very little value. AI is rather anti-labor in that way.
I'd also rather have some people who are slow and competent than fast and hallucinating
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 47d
If that were true, there would've been a software explosion, since LLMs have "killed manual programming" for some years now according to the guys that earn money when people believe that.
There hasn't been any perceivable increase of software products over these years. Nor a decrease in their price.
The only notable differences are:
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 47d
Yeah, you’re so right. Nothing has changed.
https://sean.heelan.io/2025/05/22/how-i-used-o3-to-find-cve-2025-37899-a-remote-zeroday-vulnerability-in-the-linux-kernels-smb-implementation/
https://thehackernews.com/2024/11/googles-ai-tool-big-sleep-finds-zero.html
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/ai-security-zero-day-vulnerabilities/
These people are all probably hacks and the worst coders at their jobs. Right?
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 47d
Did you read my comment through an LLM summary? Your response has no connection to my comment.
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 47d
You said it hasn’t materially changed software development, I’m showing how it has from a cyber security angle. I’m also half replying to others which is why it’s not directly connected. I got massively shit on and wanted to reply but I’m not really interested in replying to each specific comment calling me a fucking idiot.
And no. I didn’t. I read and write all my own comments.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
Don’t sweat it. Lemmy is the most, anti-ai bunch I’ve come across. If you’re not saying it has zero value and it’s not even worth understanding, you are met with immediate downvotes.
It’s becoming one of those things people can’t discuss without someone coming unhinged. Politics, religion, and now ai lol
Feyd@programming.dev · -1 pts · 47d
Lol you really opened multiple user profiles and mashed downvotes on random comments because you were so upset people called out your vibe coding story. Pretty sad
noxypaws@pawb.social · 23 pts · 48d
Nah. But feel free to consider me left behind if it gets you to shut up.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 48d
They keep saying we're going to get left behind, but then they never actually leave.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 48d
Such strong words. Also, it’s pretty unlikely I’ll shut up.
Do you have anything you’d like to actually contribute to the discussion? I’m here for intelligent conversation, you could at least explain why you feel that way?
noxypaws@pawb.social · 17 pts · 48d
I'd like to contribute this:
You do a massive disservice to humankind by perpetuating the lie that "you'll get left behind".
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 48d
How so? I’m just saying it’s here.
Like it or not.
Feyd@programming.dev · 11 pts · 48d
For things that are actually useful people don't talk about them like they're fucking covid lol
StillAlive@piefed.world · 10 pts · 48d
LupertEverett@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 48d
No you don't lmao. Especially not after using the same "nuanced" glazer points.
plonk
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 48d
Fucking try me
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 48d
Neither are humans...
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 48d
I expect Joe at the cash register might occasionally count his drawer wrong. However, he’s not going to randomly give me made up shit.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 48d
I agree that AI is inhumanly good at presenting wrong information confidently and convincingly.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
Humans can be held accountable though. Which means they would rather say "I believe this is because ..." than "you are absolutely right! If you remove the voltage regulator from the power supply, it will provide more power!". And if they don't, they can be fired or put in prison, where they can stop doing harm.
If your LLM repeatedly lies to you, there's nothing you can do about it. Maybe try another LLM, but there's not many of them and they all lie.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 47d
I think the perspective of moral responsibility ("lie", "held accountable") is not a useful one here. Punishment is one way of discouraging humans from making mistakes but it can't prevent mistakes entirely. My field is software development and in software development there is the expectation that everyone, even the best human developer, makes mistakes relatively often, and there are frameworks for managing those mistakes. (Frameworks not focused primarily on blame or punishment.) AI can fit into those frameworks.