That's probably part of it, but there's definitely more factors. I trust the Play Store is able to align user patterns , like how 99.9% of users searching for and downloading a Lemmy app at one point downloaded a Reddit app.
onlyfans is an app, a quick search showed a couple others, dating apps mainly, likely a couple social services that don't mention dating or sex that are actually used for that. Just have to find them.
This is what I'm thinking of doing. I've been using boost for ages now and never donate. But after all this, and how quick he(?) went for Lemmy, I'm all for giving him a bit
At first there was so network instability and compatibility problem that I used PWA and Jerboa and Connect and switched between them multiple times a day.
Now I'm using Jerboa almost exclusively as everything seems more stable.
They're one of the least reliable companies out there. Every other product gets cancelled within 2 years, and they're constantly making major redesigns for no reason.
It pains me to defend a corpo, but calling Google unreliable for their "fling shit and see what sticks" methodology for developing new products is inaccurate. Google/Alphabet is actually one of the most reliable corpos in the tech sphere, relatively-speaking, if you analyze their core products throughout the years.
Yes, it does feel like Google retires projects faster than they instantiate them. But that's by design. The core product (selling advertising on SERPs/YouTube/AdWords/etc) is about as reliable as it gets, and that's where they get their money.
Their core products meaning search and email, sure. Everything else is on the chopping block and randomly changes all the time.
Remember when they bought Nest and literally bricked everyone's thermostats? Tasks / reminders / whatever gets completely reworked every other year. They went through a chat phase where they released half a dozen different, incompatible chat apps, and also wrote a chat sub-system into every other app they had.
They're lunatics. If all they want to do is search and email, just do that, don't waste time and consumer patience branching out into all these random things they'll drop support for in two years.
I always find it so extraordinary when someone replies to one of my comments with some off-the-wall shit like this.
You're splitting hairs I already split. I specifically pointed out that their core products, you know, the things that actually matter, render the company among the most-reliable tech giants out there. I explicitly countered the notion that the fling-shit-and-see-what-sticks method is anything other than an elaborate R&D scheme.
Yet, here you are, responding to me raging about Google's failproducts as if I didn't JUST get finished explaining what that's all about and how it doesn't detract from their ability to generate income. They're not lunatics, you just don't understand what's happening. Which again, is wild, because you're literally responding to a comment where I explained what's happening.
For me it’s pretty much all mastodon apps. I can’t even get to any lemmy apps except Memmy unless i search it by name. The Reddit app doesn’t show up for me though.
Yep. Then you find Voyager, vger.app where you install that website as an app, now you get a similar Apollo experience from the “old Reddit days.” That’s what I’ve used since day 3.
I just miss the rich text editing that Lemmy offers. I don’t care to learn the code or type it out. Eventually I’d like Voyager to get an app in the App Store as an option to build in these extra features.
Some websites can be directly "installed" in you app drawer. They are really like an advanced shortcut for the mobile webpage.
You probably haven't seen it a lot because commercial webs that want to shove their propietary app down your throat disable this option.
But both Lemmy and Mastodon have it enabled.
To do so, click on options on your desired browser and you'll find an "addto startup page" option or something along those lines.
I believe they are referred to as PWA or progressive web app. I'm using Voyager ( formerly wefwef) right now and it's a pretty solid experience. Been bouncing back and forth between this and Memmy since day one. Voyager is my favorite because it feels like Apollo.
interesting. But that seems to rely on Chrome, which I've removed. I'm using Duckduckgo as main browser instead. So I just fireproof the login, bookmark and I'm good. Thanks for the explanation, though.
edit: there seems to be a sandboxed webapps browser on f-droid
You can also use Firefox/Fennec/Mull/whatever to use PWAs. On F-Droid, there's an app called Native Alpha that uses the system's Webview (Chromium based).
@sneezy Yeap, all browsers still have it as an option in the main menu, lots of sites still have metadata to present it as fullscreen too so it feels like a proper app.
That is reasonable. It is a more popular (by installation numbers) that fills a similar niche and close to 100% of everyone that installs a Lemmy app also installed a reddit app at some point. The algoritm should recommend reddit if you search for Lemmy
I stopped using an "app" for Lemmy. Now that m.lemmy.world has wefwef built in, the web app is perfect. Honestly better than most of the native apps out there.
Thx, had totally missed you can install webapps via Firefox Android. Firefox seems to crash everytime I open the webapp though lol. Happy with Connect in the meantime.
108 Comments
starman@programming.dev · 172 pts · 3y
Maybe it's because reviews like "fuck u/spez, use lemmy instead" contain word "lemmy"?
manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech · 53 pts · 3y
Yes
deweydecibel@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 3y
That's probably part of it, but there's definitely more factors. I trust the Play Store is able to align user patterns , like how 99.9% of users searching for and downloading a Lemmy app at one point downloaded a Reddit app.
manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech · 14 pts · 3y
then we need to be uninstalling reddit and installing porn social apps immediately after. enough people do it and...
nothendev@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 3y
Angry upvote, satan
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 3y
manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech · 3 pts · 3y
onlyfans is an app, a quick search showed a couple others, dating apps mainly, likely a couple social services that don't mention dating or sex that are actually used for that. Just have to find them.
ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.ml · 3 pts · 3y
Like Whisper and Yik Yak and all those clones
starman@programming.dev · 15 pts · 3y
I accidentally deleted comment when trying to edit. You still might be able to see it from different instances due to how ActivityPub works.
Here is what it said:
001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 3y
TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee · -10 pts · 3y
Or just simply press Alt+F4, that'll readd your comment.
gjatx@lemmy.one · 5 pts · 3y
Be sure to enter /disco into the console to unlock the secret Disco Mode.
whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 3y
i still see it
starman@programming.dev · 4 pts · 3y
It shows deleted by creator for me
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3y
Xepher@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
I still sees it
manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech · 1 pts · 3y
you have to edit, wait for the edit to propagate and then delete
thread is still here https://lemmy.intai.tech/comment/352120
WhoRoger@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 3y
Reddit - the shitty corporate Lemmy alternative
SapienSRC@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 3y
With the amount of time spent talking about Reddit on Lemmy that's not too big of a surprise
bulwark@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 3y
Dang, I saw Boost for Lemmy on there and got excited for a moment. I can't wait.
Alivrah@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 3y
Pre-signed. Can't wait for the release!
Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
I know right? Eagerly awaiting the day it releases!
jmanjones@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 3y
Boost for Reddit was great to me. Can't wait for Boost for Lemmy to come out and even be able to support the devs
TwanHE@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y
Yeah I'll defo support boost once it comes out. Even if I still end up using another app, was too late for the Reddit version.
Resistentialism@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
This is what I'm thinking of doing. I've been using boost for ages now and never donate. But after all this, and how quick he(?) went for Lemmy, I'm all for giving him a bit
Magister@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 3y
At first there was so network instability and compatibility problem that I used PWA and Jerboa and Connect and switched between them multiple times a day.
Now I'm using Jerboa almost exclusively as everything seems more stable.
I'm waiting for Sync 😊
metallic_substance@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
Connect had some issues until recently, but it seems to be working better now
lemminer@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 3y
Google play store is cringe.
GatoB@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 3y
Google
play storeis cringetcj@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
They're one of the least reliable companies out there. Every other product gets cancelled within 2 years, and they're constantly making major redesigns for no reason.
Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev · 6 pts · 3y
Google domains was the one I least expected to be killed.
kep@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
It pains me to defend a corpo, but calling Google unreliable for their "fling shit and see what sticks" methodology for developing new products is inaccurate. Google/Alphabet is actually one of the most reliable corpos in the tech sphere, relatively-speaking, if you analyze their core products throughout the years.
Yes, it does feel like Google retires projects faster than they instantiate them. But that's by design. The core product (selling advertising on SERPs/YouTube/AdWords/etc) is about as reliable as it gets, and that's where they get their money.
Obligatory "fuck corporations."
tcj@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Their core products meaning search and email, sure. Everything else is on the chopping block and randomly changes all the time.
Remember when they bought Nest and literally bricked everyone's thermostats? Tasks / reminders / whatever gets completely reworked every other year. They went through a chat phase where they released half a dozen different, incompatible chat apps, and also wrote a chat sub-system into every other app they had.
They're lunatics. If all they want to do is search and email, just do that, don't waste time and consumer patience branching out into all these random things they'll drop support for in two years.
kep@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
I always find it so extraordinary when someone replies to one of my comments with some off-the-wall shit like this.
You're splitting hairs I already split. I specifically pointed out that their core products, you know, the things that actually matter, render the company among the most-reliable tech giants out there. I explicitly countered the notion that the fling-shit-and-see-what-sticks method is anything other than an elaborate R&D scheme.
Yet, here you are, responding to me raging about Google's failproducts as if I didn't JUST get finished explaining what that's all about and how it doesn't detract from their ability to generate income. They're not lunatics, you just don't understand what's happening. Which again, is wild, because you're literally responding to a comment where I explained what's happening.
dangblingus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
WE SIDELOAD HERE.
randint@feddit.nl · 21 pts · 3y
I think that's because there are only 5 Lemmy apps?
OtakuAltair@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 3y
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 21 pts · 3y
I'm more curious if any Lemmy app shows up if you search for Reddit.
starman@programming.dev · 17 pts · 3y
For me it's:
Officialshitty reddit appMarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 3y
For me it’s pretty much all mastodon apps. I can’t even get to any lemmy apps except Memmy unless i search it by name. The Reddit app doesn’t show up for me though.
Dougas@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3y
They do not.
sneezy@lemm.ee · 20 pts · 3y
Gotta say, the website works great on phone too. No reason to get an app
WarmSoda@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
Agreed. I've been using the website on my phone. I figure I'll check out the apps again after they settle into themselves more.
Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3y
You can "install" it as an app on your phone too.
sneezy@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 3y
install ... a website? is that a thing?
Tygr@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 3y
Yep. Then you find Voyager, vger.app where you install that website as an app, now you get a similar Apollo experience from the “old Reddit days.” That’s what I’ve used since day 3.
Bosa@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
Yep agreed voyager is basically Apollo for Lemmy. Of course still a long way to go but it's close
Boinketh@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 3y
If Voyager is like Apollo, it's no wonder iOS users were so up in arms about the API shutdown.
Bosa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
Ya agreed. Eventually things will even out give or take and both platforms will be fine
roi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 3y
Definitely, but it gets very regular & quick updates and has gotten much better within like a week
Tygr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
I just miss the rich text editing that Lemmy offers. I don’t care to learn the code or type it out. Eventually I’d like Voyager to get an app in the App Store as an option to build in these extra features.
daniskarma@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 3y
Some websites can be directly "installed" in you app drawer. They are really like an advanced shortcut for the mobile webpage. You probably haven't seen it a lot because commercial webs that want to shove their propietary app down your throat disable this option.
But both Lemmy and Mastodon have it enabled.
To do so, click on options on your desired browser and you'll find an "addto startup page" option or something along those lines.
WarmSoda@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 3y
Isn't that called a shortcut?
jaamesbaxterr@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3y
I believe they are referred to as PWA or progressive web app. I'm using Voyager ( formerly wefwef) right now and it's a pretty solid experience. Been bouncing back and forth between this and Memmy since day one. Voyager is my favorite because it feels like Apollo.
neuromancer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
WarmSoda@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 3y
Interesting, thanks
WarmSoda@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y
I just tried it. It just adds a browser shortcut to my phone. Oh well
neuromancer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
daniskarma@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Mostly. But it is launched in a different instance of your browser, so it doesn't mix with it. Becoming more convenient for some cases.
WarmSoda@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 3y
That's pretty cool. Thanks
Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3y
This isn't a shortcut. It's an actual app with access to system resources on your phone that a website wouldn't have access to.
Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 3y
Sure is! They're called Progressive Web Apps. This article explains how to use them, https://mobilesyrup.com/2020/05/24/how-install-progressive-web-app-pwa-android-ios-pc-mac/
sneezy@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 3y
interesting. But that seems to rely on Chrome, which I've removed. I'm using Duckduckgo as main browser instead. So I just fireproof the login, bookmark and I'm good. Thanks for the explanation, though.
edit: there seems to be a sandboxed webapps browser on f-droid
amanaftermidnight@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3y
YSK that almost all browsers except Firefox and its derivatives uses the same base as Chrome called Chromium.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 3y
You can also use Firefox/Fennec/Mull/whatever to use PWAs. On F-Droid, there's an app called Native Alpha that uses the system's Webview (Chromium based).
chrishazfun@mstdn.social · 1 pts · 3y
@sneezy Yeap, all browsers still have it as an option in the main menu, lots of sites still have metadata to present it as fullscreen too so it feels like a proper app.
const_void@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 3y
Can't wait for Boost!
Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 3y
Gestrid@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 3y
I'm using Connect, too, though I'm basically just in the Boost waiting room.
Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 3y
What's Fedilab?
StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 3y
Pretty sure it's a universal app to access all kinds of fediverse apps, like mastodon, calckey, etc.
amiuhle@feddit.de · 14 pts · 3y
So it's a browser?
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 3y
It's a proper app that can parse and follow fedi links internally, and has the native feel you can't really get with a web app.
Kushi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3y
It's a generic ActivityPub client.
eco@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
The latest release added Lemmy support but it's pretty basic. It just let's you browse a specific instance as a timeline.
Fisk400@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 3y
That is reasonable. It is a more popular (by installation numbers) that fills a similar niche and close to 100% of everyone that installs a Lemmy app also installed a reddit app at some point. The algoritm should recommend reddit if you search for Lemmy
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 3y
I stopped using an "app" for Lemmy. Now that m.lemmy.world has wefwef built in, the web app is perfect. Honestly better than most of the native apps out there.
wilberfan@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y
Whoa, wait. WefWef (now "Voyager") BUILT IN? How slick is that! (Voyager is one of my fav ways to lemmy...) 😎
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I know, right? Pretty slick.
Rouxibeau@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
It crashes my FF eclvery time I fold my phone. I'm using Connect currently.
PreciousPig@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Same here ☹️
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Interesting. Does using the app in Chrome do the same thing? Might be worth a bug report, if you haven't already.
esty@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 3y
For me it refreshes every time I unfold while using, it's a little jarring but at least it keeps my place
Z fold 3 btw
Rouxibeau@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Same phone. I tried a few other apps, issues with most. Still on connect atm
PreciousPig@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
How does one activate that? 🧐
eco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Just open https://m.lemmy.world on your phone then go to Settings then Install App.
PreciousPig@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Thx, had totally missed you can install webapps via Firefox Android. Firefox seems to crash everytime I open the webapp though lol. Happy with Connect in the meantime.
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y
Trust me. This is waaaaayyyyyyy better of how it was 2 weeks ago 👆
cincinmasukmangkok@lemmy.my.id · 9 pts · 3y
Same for kbin
Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 3y
Kbin really needs an app. I like the idea of it, but I never want to use it unless I'm at my desktop.
seaneoo@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
Artemis just entered the beta phase. http://kbin.social/m/artemisapp
Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 3y
Cool! Looking forward to trying it out.
someguy3@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 3y
Well yeah? After the product it will show you similar products.
loz@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 3y
And don't forget the Joker!
Kuroshio@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
Give it time, it'll be 10th, then 14th, then..
Jonsey11@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
It's this the new Reddit m
idunnololz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
And Summit doesn't show up at all 😞
JohnnyLX91@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 3y
I mean they do similar things so it's just natural that it is recommend somewhere there.
DominicO@ttrpg.network · 4 pts · 3y
new user here, is installing more than one lemmy client necessary?
DharkStare@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y
It's not necessary. OP is most likely testing the various apps to see which one he prefers.
wreel@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 3y
This is my life now
Mongostein@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 3y
Also, the great (auto?)biography White Line Fever comes up.
RIP Lemmy Kilmister
somerand0mcat@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Weird this showing up as I literally just installed Connect (the top one).
Loving it so far.
Allows me to lie back on the sofa without the laptop cooking my balls.
Anyone think I'm missing out by not checking out the others?
whereisk@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
Google can't harvest your data on Lemmy
Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 3y
Sure they can, assuming one uses Android and/or Chrome.