Microsoft outage leaves China largely untouched as tech self-sufficiency campaign pays off
https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3271171/microsoft-outage-leaves-china-largely-untouched-tech-self-sufficiency-campaign-pays?module=top_story&pgtype=section
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anachronist@midwest.social · 64 pts · 2y
I mean yeah I don't think Chinese companies are going to have crowdstrike installed given that it's essentially a rootkit controlled by an American company. It'd be like American companies installing Kaspersky or Xuexi Qiangguo.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
also are we to believe china never has any outages of their own?
xavier666@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
It helps when a country has a simple law like segmentation fault on the prod server means jail time
/jk
mlg@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 2y
I mean anyone who didn't use crowdstrike was fine.
I think it would have been a more interesting comparison if windows itself shipped a broken update to everyone which would show the OS dependency of every country.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 2y
Would be interesting but I don't think than can happen as windows updates are phased. If lots of pcs start crashing, the rollout is halted
tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net · 13 pts · 2y
This is very standard across most large scale updates, crowdstrike just does things differently obviously 🤣
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 2y
That's just called Update Tuesday.
warlaan@feddit.org · 38 pts · 2y
I doubt that this move has made them much more "safe and controllable", it just means that they depend on a different system. I mean as soon as a bug pops up in their software the rest of the world will be fine.
carl_dungeon@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 2y
That’s not a USA vs China thing, I work in enterprise cloud, we use Linux.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Can/do all your coworkers use git? Even the secretary and janitor?
Laser@feddit.org · 5 pts · 2y
The answer to this 100% irrelevant question is no
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
When is collaboration irrelevant within a large organization? Your company uses Linux which is commendable.
Taking it one step further
Multiple team members being able to work on the same project at the same time
Laser@feddit.org · 5 pts · 2y
My point was that it's irrelevant if the whole company knows git. We're a Microsoft shop and a lot of people don't even use computers at our company (or only sparingly as they work in manufacturing). And we also have a subset of people who work with git (me kind of included).
And no our janitor can't use AD. Even though our whole company "uses" Microsoft Windows
carl_dungeon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Does everyone at your company use photoshop?
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 2y
I worked in sales for a Fortune 500 tech equipment and software manufacturer. When a customer had a serious outage with a single piece of our equipment it would cause them to stop and reevaluate their purchasing plans and dependence on my company.
IMO every government and business out there is going to be looking at this at every level and IT departments will be tasked to significantly reduce their reliance on Microsoft products. It will take years to actually happen, but I think Microsoft sales are going to take a serious, long term, and well-deserved hit.
peg@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
The problem is Crowdstrike, not Microsoft.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
Makes not the least bit of difference: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/20/the-microsoftcrowdstrike-outage-shows-the-danger-of-monopolization
Literally hundreds of millions of people around the world have seen the Microsoft BSODs that resulted from this fuck up. Millions of people have had their lives disrupted. The vast majority of those will blame Microsoft. Executive boards and IT groups may know better but it won't matter all that much - they will be aggressively looking to reduce their exposure to Microsoft's near monopoly anyway.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 2y
Darwin enters the conversation, "Ah chem!"
(raises finger) (lowers finger) (moves onto a species that can configure their own network and printer)
dephyre@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
Non-paywall; https://archive.is/2024.07.19-170656/https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3271171/microsoft-outage-leaves-china-largely-untouched-tech-self-sufficiency-campaign-pays
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 2y
China takes alot of crap from Western MSM. But the accusation that it suacks at IT, so much, would consider using WindowsOS is a low blow
Whenever see a Windows box i say, grandma gets a smartphone. Regardless who i'm talking to. Believe it!