Banning Spree?

That was kind of what I was attempting to do here. Is there another way to do that?

There's a vegan community on vegantheoryclub, they spat the dummy and defederated from .world. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.

It could be, but it's really not. This community posts shit insulting, "carnists," all the time, then suddenly claims they're getting attacked or brigaded when these posts get negative responses. I get not wanting to have to debate random assholes every time you share an article about veganism; I even get banning people for being hostile to your insulting memes; but banning people for downvoting a meme is messed up, which is why the other mods on /c/Vegan just removed Mod the responsible for this..

Indeed

You're actually acknowledging you've "downvoted a lot of their memes" because of previous un-related content

No I'm not. I could see how you could choose to misinterpret what I said like that, but I didn't say that, and I'll rephrase it so that there is no question as to what I'm saying; they share self-righteous, antagonistic memes, and when those memes wind up in my feed, I downvote them. There are also plenty of neutral posts (articles, etc.) from that community that I don't downvote, but when shit like this, and this, and this ends up in my feed, I downvote it.

I could block the instance, but I see absolutely no reason to silence myself and allow their shitty opinions to go unchallenged. Why should I hide from their content and allow their community to insult me freely? I'm using the downvote button, the most passive way to express displeasure online, to respond to someone who is insulting me for my lifestyle. Why the fuck is the appropriate answer supposedly, "well, you should instead just hide from the people insulting you." Why isn't the response to the community, "Yeah, if you insult a lot of people, you get a lot of downvotes, maybe stop posting such hostile shit."

That one moderator has just downvoted every comment here and is likely responsible for the single downvote on this post.

mOr bAns?!

Edit: Aww shit! Two downvotes! Popcorn time!

I wonder if it's the same user who has almost exclusively dominated the front page of the sub with memes in the last day or so. Going back a couple pages, there was a lot more variety and nuance in the content. Subject matter notwithstanding, it looks like someone terminally online going on a power trip.

I hope this is not in poor taste, but it seemed to fit? :-P

My only comment in the community was a suggestion that someone reformat their post to make it more legible ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I totally get what you’re feeling.

I’m sure there’s more to it. I’m just sharing what I know.

Lemmy is an open, federated platform. You cannot realistically hide who voted, because there is no trusted server that would secretly count up votes and provide a total.

Pretty sure votes are public. It's just that most (all?) the front ends only show the number.
It's kinda how the fedi spec works. Nothing is private.
I know kbin/mbin showed who voted.

people really need to stop confusing an upvote/downvote to basic democratic voting. There is no ticker above the ballot box letting you know how everyone voted before you, there is no "policy" or "elected position" being voted on. This is more akin to an open conference debate where people are booing or yaying when someone speaks up about a topic. Your privacy on a public forum discussion never existed to begin with, people in a public setting know their anonymity isn't guaranteed.

Afaik, votes are visible to server admins (because admins hold the keys to the DB) and server admins can proliferate information however they want. With anyone being able to be a server admin, there isn't much you can do about it.

Votes are not specifically visible to moderators. Instance admins can see them through the database and everyone can see them through other federated platforms besides Lemmy.

They're visible to anyone with a lemmy instance, or any activitypub compatible platform. It's likely that she set one up to monitor the votes on the community and ban anyone she saw down-voting her, and yes that is very much a thing that power-hungry losers do.

You can tell this is a good faith criticism by how it simultaneously criticizes them for not making the community private and for being an "echo bunker."

You get a ban and you get a ban! Everyone gets a ban!

Can I get on the ban list, too?

Yeah I'm saying the mods might be intentionally cutting off world users preemptively before they move.

They don't even see the contradiction: that in an attempt to fight the fascists (as they say in the post I linked), they have become ones themselves.

Also, I don't mind if they user block me using such a bot - that is simply curating their own feed (I may not think highly of their choice, but at least I agree that it would be their choice) - but to ban me from some place, and more importantly make a note in my modlog to that effect, is something else entirely. It's the difference between choosing not to have an abortion for oneSELF, vs. making that determination for someone ELSE to not be allowed to have an abortion.

And then telling that person what you think about the situation, at whatever frequency that bot is run, essentially spamming the Fediverse with your own speech, in an attempt to silence someone else's (in your community... except that unless you are an instance admin - in which case you don't need to resort to this type of implementation - you don't "own" any community, even if you started it, i.e. there are still instance rules that need to be followed, and anyway you certainly don't own the modlogs of every person across the entire Fediverse!?!!?!).

If I were the author of this bot, setting aside how I never would have made such in the first place, the best solution now would be to throw it away entirely, as it is far too broken to be fixed with mere tweaking, like minimum of five comments rather than one. Even then, that account might end up being banned from several instances, for "vote manipulation", and it even puts the instances that allow users to run it at risk of being defederated as well, eventually if that becomes a pattern and the admins are unresponsive to deal with it, for violation of the rules of the Fediverse, especially spamming. These are like constant advertisements of "I don't like this other person, and want them to only have access to separate but equal communities away from me", which is... not ideal but basically their private thoughts, not something that needs to fill up the modlogs of a large fraction of people across the entire Fediverse, especially mostly innocent people getting caught up in too wide of a net, and making the modlogs of those thus affected no longer human readable.

The author of the bot has already been challenged. It looks like (although I'm no admin so I cannot confirm) they simply downvoted that dissenting opinion, responding with derision (this we all of us can read since it's public, note no /s tag either, though sarcasm heavily layered on), and proceeded to do whatever they wanted regardless of consent, by anyone.

i.e. they aren't simply turning away applications to join a community, that's 100% within their rights, although even that would be more than a little weird to scrape through every single downvote from every community across the entire Fediverse in order to make that determination. But even so, at least the applicant would be asking for it (hopefully with appropriate informed consent). Instead, they seem to be proactively judging the entire population present across the entire Fediverse, regardless of whether we've ever so much as even heard of their own community, and then filling up our modlogs with the manifestation of their disapproval. Like okay Karen, I don't need you spamming my (public!) inbox with every thought that crosses your mind, that my post history happens to remind you of! :-P

I noted elsewhere that this is exactly what Trump supporters have talked about wanting to do, both online but also even irl as in Project 2025. However, the cat is out of the bag - we are not offered the choice to avoid this occurrence altogether, our only choice now is how we will respond to these attacks on the principles of freedom of expression, and also the ability to preserve the modlogs to be human-readable rather than continually polluted with bot actions, taken by every community that we have zero interest in to begin with, until they wormed their way to becoming the center of attention (Karen) with their expressions (Karen) of what they (Karen) seem to think of us, at every given moment that they decide is right for them to divulge that "information".

Bro's unironically saying "I'm not a racist, I have minority friends" and wondering why Beehaw doesn't want him around.

I was browsing scaled and found a post that was dumb from that community and downvoted it. It only had a 1 score, so I took it to 0

I wonder if that will do it

Random unhinged mods spying on your votes to pre-ban you is pretty fucked up.

Your equivalency is not great. If you told me I was banned on !genv@lemmy.world (saw in the trending communities) I wouldn't even spend the time to find of if it was true.

B/c this is just the tip of the iceberg, What?

b/c a stitch in time saves nine and all that jazz What's the bigger problem?

Personally, I think it justifies their choices. Not that I would have made the same choices in their shoes. They are just getting shit on left and right by random people that would never take the time to even honestly engage, but just believe they are terrible for personal choices.

Good to know. Thanks for the quick response

So, to be clear, you're saying that you are not a vegan and you did argue against veganism, and are upset that you got kicked from a vegan space, but at the same time, saying that you're not a vegan and argued against veganism and are upset that you got kicked from a vegan space is a "strawman," somehow.

Are you strawmanning yourself? Wtf are you talking about?

Yeah. That’s the weird part. Were you trash talking vegans somewhere else, where a mod may have seen? I don’t think a ban in that case is fair, but it’s the only reason I can think of.

Less being a precog and more just noticing all the crimes you're committing in other subs.

Yeah, there has been a wave of horrid memes on that topic, recently. I don't give a fuck about vegans or their supposed oppressors or any associated drama. Just make decent memes and then everyone can have a giggle.