No one alive will experience a better climate than we have today. But young people will experience a much more dangerous and chaotic world in the future.
No one alive will experience a better climate than we have today. But young people will experience a much more dangerous and chaotic world in the future.
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atro_city@fedia.io · 50 pts · 1y
But never forget: it's the immigrants fault!
- rich people
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
well, yeah, but also the vroom-vroom assholes - there are so many who fight efficiency and buy the biggest truck our the loudest most ridiculous exhaust for their sports car, they literally derive enjoyment from making things worse. And then there's the smooth-brainest, the coal rollers, who fuck up their shit intentionally to make it spew toxins they can maneuver onto peds and cyclists.
the world is burning, when are we going to turn some of this focus back to a modicum of personal responsibility?
atro_city@fedia.io · 9 pts · 1y
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
hope springs eternal.
Damage@feddit.it · 2 pts · 1y
Vroom vrooms don't matter as long as we keep shipping shit around the world and burn coal for energy
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
nope. it all matters now. every fucking bit matters. we're already at 2c.
it's all got to matter from here out.
kibiz0r@midwest.social · 45 pts · 1y
No one will experience a better climate than today, that’s true.
But the crucial part of this chart is the 3° gap between the best and worst possible outcomes.
Support for gay marriage went from less than 20% to over 80% in less than a decade. We can make major changes. Cynicism is acceptance.
threeganzi@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 1y
But the gay marriage was a no brainer because it cost nothing to anyone. Making the climate better requires sacrifice. Still think we should try to be positive.
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Except that,
We are fucked. Right now, the best we can do is limit the wider environmental damage. Entire ecosystems will collapse, as changes are happening too fast for them to migrate towards the poles. The fastest prior example of climate change that we discovered happened almost 100,000× slower, so entire forests had the opportunity to migrate instead of perishing.
I am all for massive action. Not for humanity - I see zero chance of us surviving as any kind of a going concern into the 22nd century - but for the planetary ecosystem. We must give it the best possible chance for recovery, so that whatever comes after us has the best opportunity to flourish.
Petter1@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
And of course all those dictators will use the catastrophic events to throw shit at each other, tell the others are the reason for all this and can finally start their wet dream ww3 as well as get rid of all minority “parasites” that waste our now limited resources we all fight for
Very nice
😔
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y
Ironically, only unrestrained nuclear war could possibly save us now.
Petter1@lemm.ee · 0 pts · 1y
🤯🫡
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
I know. It’s an exceedingly horrible path, but the alternatives are turning out to be immeasurably worse, and we are rapidly running out of non-catastrophic options.
I am in the northern hemisphere, in a city that is virtually 100% guaranteed to be nuked if such a conflict arises. It’s not an option I want to reach for unless all the other ones are even worse. But “much worse” is likely to occur, sooner rather than later.
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 1y
stickly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Wouldn't composting just release more greenhouse gasses? We need a more effective means of carbon capture, or maybe directly repurpose them as some sort of nutritional paste
Welt@lazysoci.al · 9 pts · 1y
Composting sequesters much more carbon than it emits, if done properly. It's not like we're cremating the bodies, where the carbon is released to the atmosphere as CO2.
stickly@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Oh huh, interesting... 📃✍️
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 1y
That’s very sad.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y
does anyone else think about this as assholes drive by vroom vrooming co2 into the atmosphere for fun?
higgsboson@dubvee.org · 7 pts · 1y
I get pissed just seeing people idling their engine just to run the AC while their spouse shops or whatever.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Oh boy. Wait till you learn about long haul trucking...
Ever been to a truck rest stop? Each one has dozens of semi trucks, all idling their engines, all night. There are 10s of thousands of such stops across the US.
higgsboson@dubvee.org · 1 pts · 1y
I'm well aware. Not sure what your point is. That's also bad.
Thegods14@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 1y
He thinks you're a noob because you still let the fact that we're all gonna get fucked in the end by the oligarchy doing nothing to better our one and only world embolden you to feel frustrated (for good reason) at your obtuse surroundings.
higgsboson@dubvee.org · 1 pts · 1y
Nah, I was pissed at exhaust emissions long before it was cool. Trolls gonna troll, though.
Naz@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 1y
I'd recommend reading Stand on Zanzibar for a glimpse into a +4.8°C future that we're headed into.
poVoq@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 1y
A book from 1968 about overpopulation among other things... that might be a sci-fi classic, but an accurate forecast of what is going to happen in the nearish future it is not 🙄
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y
Yeah the population bomb fizzled (although family planning policy being widespread probably makes it another ozone layer) and upside down population pryamids are a more realistic scenario
Beastimus@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 1y
We're probably not heading into over 4.8 though. Probable outcomes are between 2.5 and 3.5 (both of which are horrific.)
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y
Unfortunately, that kind of thinking is badly out of date, and no longer in line with the evidence.
Spoiler alert: it’s much, much worse than that.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1y
Guess I'm going to kill myself. This shit is fucked up.
someacnt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
How should I kill myself, any recommendations?
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
If you wait long enough climate change will do it for you.
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1y
If we are lucky we will only experience the intermediate effects
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
yup. every time I read about private jets flying to get food, or see a car speeding down the street doing 60 in a 25, revving their shit at lights, I think: how much are you robbing your children?
don't they love their own kids? how is our society literally burning - but people can't make the obvious connection?
I know we can't de-carbonize every source instantly, but the selfish pricks who burn it for fun need to be taxed at the very fucking least
dumnezero@piefed.social · 6 pts · 1y
A version edited for more clarity:
Mubelotix@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 1y
We can still make it better for people that are about to be born
pepperjohnson@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
Need more Luigi's.
Resonanz@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 1y
And that's why we should resist and reject the works of these mofos
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
they're boilng us alive like frogs sitting in a pot going to work everyday
Resonanz@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y
Hence, it's time to look for answers to act my friend! I personally suggest reading The Ecology of Freedom from Murray Bookchin
jonjuan@programming.dev · 0 pts · 1y
At some point a a super volcano will go off and we will turn back into a snowball.
dumnezero@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1y
Gambling is part of the problem. You can't rely on luck.
Resonanz@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y
Already 60°C in thermal sensivity in Rio de Janeiro yesterday. If the end comes, It will not be with a bang, but as a sloooooow cook. And it's happening right now so: Time to act!
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Good infographic, looks like its part of a bigger piece though, have you got the source?
kapulsa@feddit.org · 7 pts · 1y
It's a figure from the latest IPCC report
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/figures
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Ah cool, cheers!
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Thx for sauce!
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
that's me in 2050 im out y'all
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 1y
yawn
frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 1y
Depends on the definition of good. People like remote workers do seem to prefer warmer locations when given the opportunity to relocate