President Trump says he may send National Guard to New Orleans next instead of Chicago "We're making a determination now," Trump said in the Oval Office to reporters. "Do we go to Chicago or do we go to a place like New Orleans?" Portrait of Joey GarrisonJoey Garrison USA TODAY
President Donald Trump suggested he may not send National Guard troops into Chicago as he's repeatedly threatened, and for the first time introduced a potential new target for his next crime crackdown: New Orleans.
One day after he declared, "We're going in" about plans for Chicago, Trump on Sept. 3 said his administration still hadn't decided whether he would deploy troops to the nation's third-largest city. Trump instead pointed to New Orleans, a city in a Republican-led state, in contrast to Democratic-led Illinois.
"We're making a determination now," Trump said in the Oval Office to reporters. "Do we go to Chicago or do we go to a place like New Orleans, where we have a great governor, Jeff Landry, who wants us to straighten out a very nice section of this country that's become quite, you know, quite tough, quite bad"?
"So, we're going to be going to maybe Louisiana," Trump added.
Fuuuuck. So once again I am guessing he's going with the path of least resistance bc our governor would literally burn us to the ground if Trump asked him to show his loyalty. I have no no doubt he would let Trump use us to test out any authoritarian bullshit requested.
Meanwhile, I believe Trump lost a lawsuit yesterday with California and I know Chicago's mayor and governor were both making plans and preparations to resist occupation. So again this will be a very easy way to signal he's doing something.
BTW, in addition to already having a private nonprofit surveillance company that works with NOPD and LSP (and already set up the only live tracking facial recognition surveillance system of its kind in the U.S. with no notice or input to the public) the National Guard will be New Orleans 4th official branch of city dedicated law enforcement:
NOPD
Louisiana State Police (LSP) branch Troop Nola was permanently established in the city last year by Governor Landry almost as soon as he took office.
And if you have anything like a car wreck, you have to deal with a private company the city contracts out to called On Scene Services (OSS)
All I've heard since Troop Nola was established is how much crime is down and we should be grateful for their presence. But apparently that has suddenly changed and we need to add a 4th (in addition to ICE and official ICE State police partners who may already be using the facial recognition surveillance tracking system with zero oversight.
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Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 95 pts · 348d
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 348d
What list?
iridebikes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 348d
Trump attacked Iran???????
ninjabard@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 348d
Are the Epstein Files in the French Quarter?
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 348d
LA mayor, black woman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Bass
DC mayor, black woman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muriel_Bowser
Chicago mayor, black man https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Johnson
Baltimore mayor, black man https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Scott
New Orleans mayor, black woman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Bass
What a very odd coincidence. Every city he wants to deploy troops to happens to have black leadership. So strange. I wonder why....
Steve@startrek.website · 9 pts · 348d
I know! I know!
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · -7 pts · 348d
Quick AI assisted search gives this:
There are currently 13 black mayors of major cities in the United States. The cities with black mayors include:
Don't know if this is an exhaustive list of black mayors of major cities, but it definitely is a familiar sounding list
Limonene@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 348d
Don't post this trash if you're not going to verify it.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 347d
Here's an idea, I'll do what I want!
Some people, honestly....
satansbartender@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Don't know what constitutes "major", but if you expand out to the top 50 by population then over half have a mayor that is a PoC. A lot of those are in red states and are in trouble if these fascists start targeting blue dots specifically, I fear
someguy3@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 348d
You have to be careful, saying you used ai gets you mega down voted. Lemmy is a weird place at times.
JonEFive@midwest.social · 13 pts · 348d
The problem is that AI halucinates and says things that aren't true with full confidence.
To me, saying "I used AI to answer a question" is no different than saying "I asked my neighbor. He's pretty smart and knows about these things." He might be right 95% of the time but his words should not be treated or repeated as facts without independent verificatfon.
Or put another way, if the top result in your Google search is a reddit post, maybe look at some other sites too.
So to this person stating that they used AI, thank you for being honest. Now we know that your info might need a little more analysis if there's any error or dispute.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't use AI, it's an excellent tool. Just saying that we need to be mindful of what LLMs really are.
someguy3@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 348d
ChatGPT can hallucinate, others are better.
humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 348d
They all hallucinate. Just like NA (Natural Intelligence, which I suspect is also an LLM)
someguy3@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 348d
That it is technically possible on all of them does not mean that they all do it to the same amount. Geez Lemmy users need to catch up and not be left behind in their rabidness. AI isn't going to take your job, someone that knows how to use Ai will take your job.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Yikes. AI is horrendously inaccurate but sure. You came here and picked a fight about this because you want to feel right but you're not
humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 341d
I wasn't criticising AI. Sounds like you just wanted to pick a fight. Who hurt you?
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 348d
Well my reply to that would be that it's as dumb as saying you'll never use Google because it shows you porn sometimes.
For general searches that are common knowledge, it's a very good tool for fetching information. No it's not perfect so don't take anything from it to the bank.
But for discussion purposes? More than good enough, no more subject to error than real humans and almost always more accurate and thorough.
humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 348d
That actually is a legitimate point. Any search engine worth my time will show porn more than just sometimes.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 38 pts · 348d
TACO Trump folds to Chicago cause they stood up to him. Pay attention other cities, you don't have to just roll over!
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 348d
Our governor is welcoming him with open arms. He literally made a post on his X account saying we welcome them with open arms across the entire state.
Limonene@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
Which governor are you referring to? Illinois or Louisiana?
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 347d
Louisiana
aramis87@fedia.io · 38 pts · 348d
Spot the difference!
Hint: Republicans control the entire state government of Louisiana and will bow down to trump and his MAGAts. Democrats control the entire state government of Illinois and will fight back.
My guess is that trump wanted to do Chicago, but he just just the Los Angeles Posse Commitatus lawsuit and Illinois is fighting back. Going for New Orleans means that the mayor there will be on his own, so there's less pushback and more opportunity to push the envelope.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 348d
Maybe they need more opportunities to normalize sending National Guard troops into cities. LA was met with lawsuits and protests. Chicago was likely going to be worse.
But if he does something like New Orleans now and maybe Memphis next, then when it comes to the next democratic city, it will be less likely to get news coverage. Cut to midterms next year, every city will have their elections “protected” by red state national guardsmen.
hector@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 348d
They are setting precedents to use to declare martial law, 2028 in mind I presume.
The most worrying precedent is one that got little attention, federal judges being forbidden from issuing Nationwide injunctions. They could declare martial law, round up citizens and disappear them and we would be functionally unable to challenge it, if you somehow got a chance to file a lawsuit they could jam up the process indefinitely and it would not help anybody else. The courts believe the Republic is over and we are in an autocracy already. The politicians believe that. The lawyers believe it. It is just the citizens that are not all aware yet.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Your comment depressed me. I hope Americans don’t stand for this shit. Dems need to take the house in the midterm for any hope of changing this future.
hector@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 348d
We need to take the house to even have a chance of electing an opposition politician. If they control the house and the senate, and every other means of rigging the fails them, it is safe to presume they would use fake vote rigging projections and vote the presidency to their own guy.
To get to that point we would need a popular muscular opposition that we still are lacking though. They are going to try to force Gavin Newsom and offer zero real reform and weakly trust the courts to protect elections and fail the overwhelming majority and muscular politicking that would be needed. He would not meet the moment if he got in anyway, we need a restoration and a new deal.
On the plus side there will be a succession fight and an epic fight in the nest of Vipers for supreme leader so that could be our only chance to take it from them before it is rigged beyond recovery.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 348d
It would be the most attention this admin has paid, or will pay, to New Orleans.
hector@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 348d
Define fight back.
They will file a lawsuit. And Express mild displeasure on the news.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 348d
TACOs do seem like a good idea for dinner.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 348d
Trump needed to get his goon squad to punch a bunch of black people on camera and Jeff Laundry was more willing to play ball than J.B. Pritsker.
I'm not looking forward to the Louisiana National Guard getting back into practice shooting black people trying to leave the Superdome twenty years after last time. I don't really consider slow rolling one of America's largest black cities until it looks like The West Bank any kind of win.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Hey, first of all, okay, they were black! And, y’know, suspicious! Probably escaping from something!
For those who don’t know also it was just regular cops, not the guard, but that was twenty years ago, before the mask-off fascism.
Heck, it’s probably the plan.
zarathustra0@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 348d
So it's not an emergency? It's on a rota?
skeezix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
Yea. They discovered that New Orleans’ public gardens and spaces are overrun with weeds; a problem that needs to fixed asap
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 348d
TACO knows Chicago ain't gonna mess around. A red state will roll over and show it's belly.
Still not detracting from: WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES, PEDOnald???
fodor@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 348d
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 347d
Well, he may be chickening out. There's plenty of precedent for that.
vga@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 348d
What's the kind of end game of this thing? What would happen if it was decisively proven that Trump is in there and actually fucked underaged people?
Would USA get President Vance? Would that be better? Or is the point just to keep hammering about the Epstein files, not to get Trump fired but to just create tiny stings at him so that he cannot do things?
TBi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 347d
He’s not a liar. He just changes his mind. To keep his opponents on their toes!!
21d chess mofo!
/s
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 348d
Got to intimidate the blue states. Notice how he isn't sending his SA to Houston, one of the highest crime rates in the nation?
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 347d
Get ya po’ boys ready!
Dogiedog64@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 348d
Takeshidude@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 348d
Trump Always Chickens Out
Nougat@fedia.io · 9 pts · 348d
Texas National Guard has already been staging troops and equipment
at Great Lakes.I wonder who paid for that.e:
Ah I got that quote wrong, however:
"We have reason to believe that the Trump Administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois."
https://youtu.be/1B8j1ZO6oG8?t=428
FlowVoid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
I doubt that's Texas National Guard, everyone would know if they already deployed.
Much more likely that Great Lakes is hosting a surge of ICE agents
Nougat@fedia.io · 4 pts · 348d
I'm gonna trust Pritzker on that. His statement yesterday briefly mentioned that his administration is receiving "unauthorized" information from "patriots inside the [Trump] administration."
FlowVoid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
Pritzker said he received information about Trump's plans, not that the Guard already deployed.
Nougat@fedia.io · 3 pts · 348d
He said that Texas National Guard was staging
at Great Lakes "starting yesterday [Monday]".e: @FlowVoid@lemmy.world drew me to recognize my error.
Ah I got that quote wrong, however:
"We have reason to believe that the Trump Administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois."
https://youtu.be/1B8j1ZO6oG8?t=428
FlowVoid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
No, he said "ICE, Customs and Border Patrol, the Department of Homeland Security, and other similarly situated federal agencies" had started staging.
Nougat@fedia.io · 4 pts · 348d
Ah I got that quote wrong, however:
"We have reason to believe that the Trump Administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois."
https://youtu.be/1B8j1ZO6oG8?t=428
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 347d
This really goes to show that this has shit to do with crime. It's just "what other state will I fuck over now? Who don't I like?
Kurious84@eviltoast.org · 7 pts · 348d
This is the solution? Roll the military? And to what end? Forever? This is the solution to crime, bring in an army that is hand picked to be loyal only to Trump.
This is what you gt when you vote and have no brains.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
The mouth-breathers have permanent erections from this because they think it's double-plus awesome to waste time and money on having jack-booted thugs threaten brown people.
kossa@feddit.org · 6 pts · 348d
chocrates@piefed.world · 6 pts · 348d
Fuck this. Where do we protest?
mateofeo85@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 348d
dan1101@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 348d
The Louisiana governor is receptive to it. Dumbass sycophant.
fluxion@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Dems should lock down every city in similar ways so that it's only Republicans forced to see how useless it is to have the National Guard aimlessly wandering around the streets with weapons
FlowVoid@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 348d
What weapons? Illinois has very strict gun control, including an assault weapons ban.
There are exceptions for federal officers. But if Trump can't find a way to federalize the Texas Guard...
fartographer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 348d
- Trump, probably
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
It's all made-up bullshit anyway; might as well flip a coin, dumbass.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 3 pts · 347d
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 348d
Doubting the Big Easy will be as easy as expected.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 2 pts · 348d
I told you whatever he thought was going to happen wasn't going to happen.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 348d
Protect from who?
Cmon say it, I'm listening
opus86@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 348d
There's a lot less black people in New Orleans than Chicago. I'm confused by this shift.
terry_jerry@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 347d
There are less by number but more per percentage. That and the Governor and a good portion of the states residents are professional trump cock gobblers.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 1 pts · 348d
Trump needs a new fucking hobby. Hobbling around all day bitching about where to send National Guard troops too next. He’s just a petulant old man waiting to die, ready to bite if you dare disturb him.
netuno@lemmy.cif.su · 1 pts · 342d
I've been to new orleans and it sucked.
You can drink in public and everyone pisses in the street because all the stores charge people to use their bathrooms.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 342d
Hmmm, sounds like you kinda suck
netuno@lemmy.cif.su · 1 pts · 342d
Not really. Sounds more like you're insecure and flustered.
Try to learn how to take criticism 😎
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 342d
Nah, I just really love my city. I've always believed you would have to be an incredibly miserable person to come here and not find something you enjoy.
From your description I would assume you never left Bourbon the entire time you were here. Sucks for you 🤷♀️
netuno@lemmy.cif.su · 1 pts · 342d
There was one good thing about New Orleans.
I got to eat a bunch of shrimp for a very good price.
don@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 348d
Good. They should take it up the ass since they are flag and faith trump glazers.