They are probably meant to be mean, because the people described had a very low social status in society.
The primary dichotomy of ancient Roman sexuality was activeā/ādominantā/āmasculine and passiveā/āsubmissiveā/āfeminine. Roman society was patriarchal, and the freeborn male citizen possessed political liberty (libertas) and the right to rule both himself and his household (familia). "Virtue" (virtus) was seen as an active quality through which a man (vir) defined himself. The conquest mentality and "cult of virility" shaped same-sex relations. Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves and former slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, so they were excluded from the normal protections afforded to a citizen even if they were technically free. Freeborn male minors were off limits at certain periods in Rome.
No they did not. The roman republic was very similar to modern America except the guy who ruined it was a bisexual hobag who seemed to care about the proleterii. As a note, it would be culturally improper to refer to a Roman man who exclusively tops men and women as bisexual, but a man who bottoms for men as well as topping women would fit that term. Julius Caesar's bisexuality was a political scandal, and he was referred to by his political opponents as "every woman's man and every man's woman".
Rome loved twinks like America loves trans women, the sex industry and political world tell wildly different stories, and there was cultural back and forth between "hell yeah" "fucking degenerates" and "lol f@g"
There's also twunk - a twink and a hunk. A twink with muscles but still hairless, incredibily smooth. A twank on the other hand, a twank is no good. That's a twink and a skank. Essentially just a ragdoll being passed around from twink to twunk to bear to otter...
It's very difficult to maintain the lifestyle of a twank-versatile because this often leads to a lot of self-hatred and denial, especially among the political or religious types, so they try to realign their sexual orientation through therapy.
"Boy" in English has a ton of potential connotations. As one of many examples, during the Civil Rights Movement there was a famous protest sign that said I AM A MAN to counter the way white men addressed black men as "boy."
it's not that well-known so i don't blame the tweeter, but the word starting with E is a slur. i'm not sure if there's an exact replacement, though, because "Inuit" only refers to one community out of I think three?
Ok so a funny thing is that in my language debilas just means someone really stupid it is an insult but is it a coincidence or not because the roman empire had only traded amber with us. And if that is the case I wonder how when trading amber someone diverted the conversation to twinks so many times that it became part of the language. Or it is just a coincidence.
Itās probably not a coincidence. There are tons of words in every language that stem from latin one way or another even in russian. Languages can have tons of different influences over the thousands of years they developed and even today they are changing.
Lithuanian doesn't stem from Latin, though.
Their language just hasn't really changed in the last 5000 years or more. Latin is its sister language, though. Lithuanian and Latin basically have the same mother, which is why their grammars and.vocabularies share a lot of features.
Because of having changed so little, Lithuanian also shares several words with Sanskrit (for example: wolf, bread, god, I am, you are)
Also, Latvian derived from Lithuanian around year 700, and the current Hindi word for door is about the same as in Latvian. The Lithuanian word has changed a little from back then and doesn't sound so similar any more. (Durvīs/DarvĞe/Durys)
The Lithuanian meaning is the same as in English, French, Russian, Finnish, etc. The meaning has changed during the two millenia and has then been borrowed into Lithuanian.
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sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 75 pts · 345d
used to really enjoy calling men whores until I just found out I can refer to my homies as concuš ±ļøinus
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 345d
Concubanus
sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 15 pts · 345d
gazundheit
kibiz0r@midwest.social · 56 pts · 345d
š§
CluckN@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 345d
Thatās when my boss doesnāt āagreeā with the data so he pulls a number out of his ass.
salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 345d
ššš
billwashere@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 345d
Half analyst, half therapist⦠itās the ⦠Analrapist!
Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
Rapanalist!
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 345d
one who analyses or gets analysed hard
PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 345d
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 53 pts · 345d
As a straight guy, some of those seem kinda mean. I thought, they liked their twinks.
To my gay brothers, are they mean? Or am I just too straight to get it?
napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org · 98 pts · 345d
They are probably meant to be mean, because the people described had a very low social status in society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 63 pts · 345d
Disappointing and unproductive.
Imagine, you are a top and you are looking for a bottom but the bottoms hide their bottom-ness because they get shit for it.
Praise bottoms and enjoy the fruits of a healing environment.
Of course, there are better reasons to not be a bigot but self-interest should be a convincing one.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 4 pts · 345d
Seconded š
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 345d
They liked their twinks like many men today like their women.
I.e. they don't like them as people. But they enjoy their bodies.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 23 pts · 345d
People loved to fuck them but didn't value them. Like how people are about prostitutes
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 344d
No they did not. The roman republic was very similar to modern America except the guy who ruined it was a bisexual hobag who seemed to care about the proleterii. As a note, it would be culturally improper to refer to a Roman man who exclusively tops men and women as bisexual, but a man who bottoms for men as well as topping women would fit that term. Julius Caesar's bisexuality was a political scandal, and he was referred to by his political opponents as "every woman's man and every man's woman".
Rome loved twinks like America loves trans women, the sex industry and political world tell wildly different stories, and there was cultural back and forth between "hell yeah" "fucking degenerates" and "lol f@g"
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 345d
So you're saying the Romans already used "Sick!" as a descriptor two millennia ago?
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 345d
1000 years of Romans so I'll be surprised if they haven't used all of our slang at some point.
glimse@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 345d
Some roman out there uttered the phrase "skibidi foricai"
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 344d
Quod est morbosus malusque!
Floodedwomb@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 345d
Ok straight people, y'all should know that not every bottom is a twink.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 14 pts · 345d
There's also twunk - a twink and a hunk. A twink with muscles but still hairless, incredibily smooth. A twank on the other hand, a twank is no good. That's a twink and a skank. Essentially just a ragdoll being passed around from twink to twunk to bear to otter...
It's very difficult to maintain the lifestyle of a twank-versatile because this often leads to a lot of self-hatred and denial, especially among the political or religious types, so they try to realign their sexual orientation through therapy.
PhoreTwunny@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
A twank-versatile? That's impressive
rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 345d
Follow-up question: Is every twink a bottom?
kerntucky@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 345d
josefo@leminal.space · 8 pts · 345d
I like your Venn reasoning
silverserene@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 344d
Nope. There's femme tops such as blouses.
BruisedMoose@piefed.social · 38 pts · 345d
There is a secret ruling class and they are known as the Effeminati.
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 345d
puer is just the regular word for boy, as in āyoung maleā without any sexual connotation.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 32 pts · 345d
Words can mean different things with different tones and contexts.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 345d
"Boy" in English has a ton of potential connotations. As one of many examples, during the Civil Rights Movement there was a famous protest sign that said I AM A MAN to counter the way white men addressed black men as "boy."
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 12 pts · 345d
A lot of these are just regular words that could also be used for twinkies (especially puer seems funny, calling twink a literal boy).
But we still see influences from the Roman empire today - in financial industry entry positions are often (junior) analyst.
tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 345d
it's not that well-known so i don't blame the tweeter, but the word starting with E is a slur. i'm not sure if there's an exact replacement, though, because "Inuit" only refers to one community out of I think three?
ninjakttty@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 344d
I think itās ok and we can say exoletus, itās a dead language.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 345d
I believe Inuit refers to all three whereas the word above typically excludes Aleuts
tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 345d
How uh young were they before I make any remarks
CitizenKong@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 344d
Exactly as young as you think unfortunately. They did have slavery, so probably without consent too.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 345d
Wonder where the Roman Catholic Church gets it from.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 344d
The altar boys, unfortunately.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 344d
Ha!
plyth@feddit.org · 6 pts · 344d
So when the Republicans go full (Roman) fascism, they will do a 180 and start embracing lgbtq?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 344d
Roman men were as much gay friendly as Republican men are female friendly. Just because they like to fuck them doesnāt mean they see them as equals.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 7 pts · 344d
They already do. Republicans are some of the top viewers of femboy porn.
Pretty sure pretty sure its a power thing to fuck the thing you "hate"
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 344d
It's also a power thing to hate the people you fuck. Especially when you can weaponize traditional or oppositional sexism against them
stinky@redlemmy.com · 2 pts · 344d
then twinks won't have the right to vote either :(
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 5 pts · 345d
I giggled and kicked my feet like a schoolgirl at this, thanks
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 345d
i wonder whether the italian word "la moglie" (the wife) comes from "mollia", i.e. "the soft one".
Tenkard@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 345d
Should be from mulier which means woman in Latin, but maybe the mulier word itself is related?
dxdydz@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 345d
There is also āMollyā in English but supposedly it has no relation etymologically
EldenLord@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
Why am I reading each word like AMOGUS?
Stamau123@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
Where all the mollis boys at?
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 344d
The Romans mollis'd so Tumblr could softboy uwu.
twice_hatch@midwest.social · 3 pts · 344d
pullus - puella?
Wait does calling girls "chicks" really go all the way back to Latin?
stinky@redlemmy.com · 2 pts · 344d
and calling guys "girl" in gay culture
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 344d
Probably got half of them from the Greeks
Tetragrade@leminal.space · 2 pts · 344d
It's morbin' time for the hoes
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 344d
Ok so a funny thing is that in my language debilas just means someone really stupid it is an insult but is it a coincidence or not because the roman empire had only traded amber with us. And if that is the case I wonder how when trading amber someone diverted the conversation to twinks so many times that it became part of the language. Or it is just a coincidence.
Spezi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 344d
The translations are in the post, itās the same word origin. Weak or disabled can also refer to the brain. Its just an adjective.
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 344d
I understand that but my language isn't romanic just the thing that these words are similar is strange and kinda funny to me.
Spezi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 344d
Itās probably not a coincidence. There are tons of words in every language that stem from latin one way or another even in russian. Languages can have tons of different influences over the thousands of years they developed and even today they are changing.
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d
Lithuanian doesn't stem from Latin, though. Their language just hasn't really changed in the last 5000 years or more. Latin is its sister language, though. Lithuanian and Latin basically have the same mother, which is why their grammars and.vocabularies share a lot of features.
Because of having changed so little, Lithuanian also shares several words with Sanskrit (for example: wolf, bread, god, I am, you are) Also, Latvian derived from Lithuanian around year 700, and the current Hindi word for door is about the same as in Latvian. The Lithuanian word has changed a little from back then and doesn't sound so similar any more. (Durvīs/DarvĞe/Durys)
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d
The Lithuanian meaning is the same as in English, French, Russian, Finnish, etc. The meaning has changed during the two millenia and has then been borrowed into Lithuanian.
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d
English has this word?
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d
See here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/debile#Noun
And in other languages: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/debil
90s_hacker@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 344d
From this, we can infer that twinks were obviously a central part of the Roman conception of the world around them