Highly Advanced Culture

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sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 75 pts · 345d (2 replies)

used to really enjoy calling men whores until I just found out I can refer to my homies as concušŸ…±ļøinus

ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 345d (1 reply)

Concubanus

sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 15 pts · 345d

gazundheit

kibiz0r@midwest.social · 56 pts · 345d (6 replies)

analist

🧐

CluckN@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 345d (1 reply)

That’s when my boss doesn’t ā€œagreeā€ with the data so he pulls a number out of his ass.

salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 345d

šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

billwashere@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 345d (1 reply)

Half analyst, half therapist… it’s the … Analrapist!

Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d

Rapanalist!

Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 345d

one who analyses or gets analysed hard

PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 345d
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Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 53 pts · 345d (6 replies)

As a straight guy, some of those seem kinda mean. I thought, they liked their twinks.

To my gay brothers, are they mean? Or am I just too straight to get it?

napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org · 98 pts · 345d (2 replies)

They are probably meant to be mean, because the people described had a very low social status in society.

The primary dichotomy of ancient Roman sexuality was activeā€Š/ā€Šdominantā€Š/ā€Šmasculine and passiveā€Š/ā€Šsubmissiveā€Š/ā€Šfeminine. Roman society was patriarchal, and the freeborn male citizen possessed political liberty (libertas) and the right to rule both himself and his household (familia). "Virtue" (virtus) was seen as an active quality through which a man (vir) defined himself. The conquest mentality and "cult of virility" shaped same-sex relations. Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves and former slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, so they were excluded from the normal protections afforded to a citizen even if they were technically free. Freeborn male minors were off limits at certain periods in Rome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 63 pts · 345d (1 reply)

Disappointing and unproductive.

Imagine, you are a top and you are looking for a bottom but the bottoms hide their bottom-ness because they get shit for it.

Praise bottoms and enjoy the fruits of a healing environment.

Of course, there are better reasons to not be a bigot but self-interest should be a convincing one.

FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 4 pts · 345d

Seconded šŸ‘

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 345d

They liked their twinks like many men today like their women.

I.e. they don't like them as people. But they enjoy their bodies.

RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 23 pts · 345d

People loved to fuck them but didn't value them. Like how people are about prostitutes

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 344d

No they did not. The roman republic was very similar to modern America except the guy who ruined it was a bisexual hobag who seemed to care about the proleterii. As a note, it would be culturally improper to refer to a Roman man who exclusively tops men and women as bisexual, but a man who bottoms for men as well as topping women would fit that term. Julius Caesar's bisexuality was a political scandal, and he was referred to by his political opponents as "every woman's man and every man's woman".

Rome loved twinks like America loves trans women, the sex industry and political world tell wildly different stories, and there was cultural back and forth between "hell yeah" "fucking degenerates" and "lol f@g"

Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 345d (3 replies)

So you're saying the Romans already used "Sick!" as a descriptor two millennia ago?

ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 345d (1 reply)

1000 years of Romans so I'll be surprised if they haven't used all of our slang at some point.

glimse@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 345d

Some roman out there uttered the phrase "skibidi foricai"

svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 344d

Quod est morbosus malusque!

Floodedwomb@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 345d (6 replies)

Ok straight people, y'all should know that not every bottom is a twink.

FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 14 pts · 345d (1 reply)

There's also twunk - a twink and a hunk. A twink with muscles but still hairless, incredibily smooth. A twank on the other hand, a twank is no good. That's a twink and a skank. Essentially just a ragdoll being passed around from twink to twunk to bear to otter...

It's very difficult to maintain the lifestyle of a twank-versatile because this often leads to a lot of self-hatred and denial, especially among the political or religious types, so they try to realign their sexual orientation through therapy.

PhoreTwunny@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d

A twank-versatile? That's impressive

rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 345d (3 replies)

Follow-up question: Is every twink a bottom?

kerntucky@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 345d
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josefo@leminal.space · 8 pts · 345d

I like your Venn reasoning

silverserene@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 344d

Nope. There's femme tops such as blouses.

BruisedMoose@piefed.social · 38 pts · 345d

There is a secret ruling class and they are known as the Effeminati.

bleistift2@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 345d (2 replies)

puer is just the regular word for boy, as in ā€young maleā€ without any sexual connotation.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 32 pts · 345d (1 reply)

Words can mean different things with different tones and contexts.

Oh that one? He's a guy. But him over there he's a boy

exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 345d

"Boy" in English has a ton of potential connotations. As one of many examples, during the Civil Rights Movement there was a famous protest sign that said I AM A MAN to counter the way white men addressed black men as "boy."

Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 12 pts · 345d

A lot of these are just regular words that could also be used for twinkies (especially puer seems funny, calling twink a literal boy).

But we still see influences from the Roman empire today - in financial industry entry positions are often (junior) analyst.

tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 345d (2 replies)

it's not that well-known so i don't blame the tweeter, but the word starting with E is a slur. i'm not sure if there's an exact replacement, though, because "Inuit" only refers to one community out of I think three?

ninjakttty@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 344d

I think it’s ok and we can say exoletus, it’s a dead language.

prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 345d

I believe Inuit refers to all three whereas the word above typically excludes Aleuts

tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 345d (1 reply)

How uh young were they before I make any remarks

CitizenKong@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 344d

Exactly as young as you think unfortunately. They did have slavery, so probably without consent too.

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 345d (2 replies)

Wonder where the Roman Catholic Church gets it from.

betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 344d (1 reply)

The altar boys, unfortunately.

Krauerking@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 344d

Ha!

plyth@feddit.org · 6 pts · 344d (4 replies)

So when the Republicans go full (Roman) fascism, they will do a 180 and start embracing lgbtq?

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 344d

Roman men were as much gay friendly as Republican men are female friendly. Just because they like to fuck them doesn’t mean they see them as equals.

Krauerking@lemy.lol · 7 pts · 344d (1 reply)

They already do. Republicans are some of the top viewers of femboy porn.
Pretty sure pretty sure its a power thing to fuck the thing you "hate"

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 344d

It's also a power thing to hate the people you fuck. Especially when you can weaponize traditional or oppositional sexism against them

stinky@redlemmy.com · 2 pts · 344d

then twinks won't have the right to vote either :(

FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 5 pts · 345d

I giggled and kicked my feet like a schoolgirl at this, thanks

gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 345d (2 replies)

i wonder whether the italian word "la moglie" (the wife) comes from "mollia", i.e. "the soft one".

Tenkard@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 345d

Should be from mulier which means woman in Latin, but maybe the mulier word itself is related?

dxdydz@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 345d

There is also ā€œMollyā€ in English but supposedly it has no relation etymologically

EldenLord@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d

Why am I reading each word like AMOGUS?

Stamau123@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d

Where all the mollis boys at?

EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 344d

The Romans mollis'd so Tumblr could softboy uwu.

twice_hatch@midwest.social · 3 pts · 344d (1 reply)

pullus - puella?

Wait does calling girls "chicks" really go all the way back to Latin?

stinky@redlemmy.com · 2 pts · 344d

and calling guys "girl" in gay culture

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 344d

Probably got half of them from the Greeks

Tetragrade@leminal.space · 2 pts · 344d

It's morbin' time for the hoes

cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 344d (7 replies)

Ok so a funny thing is that in my language debilas just means someone really stupid it is an insult but is it a coincidence or not because the roman empire had only traded amber with us. And if that is the case I wonder how when trading amber someone diverted the conversation to twinks so many times that it became part of the language. Or it is just a coincidence.

Spezi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 344d (3 replies)

The translations are in the post, it’s the same word origin. Weak or disabled can also refer to the brain. Its just an adjective.

cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 344d (2 replies)

I understand that but my language isn't romanic just the thing that these words are similar is strange and kinda funny to me.

Spezi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 344d (1 reply)

It’s probably not a coincidence. There are tons of words in every language that stem from latin one way or another even in russian. Languages can have tons of different influences over the thousands of years they developed and even today they are changing.

Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d

Lithuanian doesn't stem from Latin, though. Their language just hasn't really changed in the last 5000 years or more. Latin is its sister language, though. Lithuanian and Latin basically have the same mother, which is why their grammars and.vocabularies share a lot of features.

Because of having changed so little, Lithuanian also shares several words with Sanskrit (for example: wolf, bread, god, I am, you are) Also, Latvian derived from Lithuanian around year 700, and the current Hindi word for door is about the same as in Latvian. The Lithuanian word has changed a little from back then and doesn't sound so similar any more. (Durvīs/Darvāže/Durys)

Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d (2 replies)

The Lithuanian meaning is the same as in English, French, Russian, Finnish, etc. The meaning has changed during the two millenia and has then been borrowed into Lithuanian.

cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 343d (1 reply)

English has this word?

90s_hacker@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 344d

From this, we can infer that twinks were obviously a central part of the Roman conception of the world around them