No reason to dump the citizenship. I know you're still required to pay taxes, but what can they do if you just...don't? Right now there's extradition, but with Dipshit Donnie trashing international relations, those treaties won't last forever.
I assume if you were planning to leave anyway. It helps their numbers. It helps you. Like, maybe 20 years ago, financial immigration was one way. Nowadays the qualified immigrants just go elsewhere, lol. The USA is not that special and is actively hostile.
Everyone commenting that they wont pay or its all a trap isnt thinking about the optics and expense. Im not SAYING that they are wrong, or that the whole initiative ISNT evil (it is) but paying Ice agents, vehicles, camps, etc. All costs money (more than you would think) and makes you look like assholes (which they are). People deciding to pack up and leave on their own, withdrawing their savings selling their vehicles and leaving willingly on a plane costs less than the whole track down, round up, detain and deporting process and is considerably less bad for the optics.
My grandparents fled germany in the 30s back when being Jewish was becoming dangerous but they were still content for you to just GTFO. I wouldnt be surprised if it was legit... Still fucking wrong tho.
In that case, what's ICE planning on using their new, bigger-than-most-militarys' budget for? I'm not implying you're wrong, because you do make some good points, but I want to remind everyone of the obscene amount of money they have.
If the per capita cost of deporting someone against their will is $10,000 and the cost of deporting someone consentually is $10,000 its still a win. Its just less work, every person who leaves voluntarily frees up the snatch teams to go after someone who doesnt.
It could be legit and a peaceful way to go but so far that's not how this administration has operated. So it still could be legit but what a massive risk that is to take.
We see authoritarian and inhumane measures to "solve", often exacerbate, societal situations that could have been dealt with much more effectively for way less money.
Being cruel is a means to intimidate the broader population and the people behind it are willing to pay a big premium on it.
54 Comments
kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works · 142 pts · 346d
This is a trap. They won't pay.
Apepollo11@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 346d
100% trap. As soon as someone self-reports, ICE will be over there kicking their doors in.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 345d
Time to "self"-report Republicans or MAGA heads...
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 345d
I wonder how many burner phones one could automate to run down the list of Jan 6ers before the whole thing puckered back into whence it came?
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 345d
Ooo, good idea.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 345d
Definitely a trap.
Take your picture and tell us about your relatives. We will absolutely not send this straight to ICE.
Evkob@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 345d
Definitions of submission (source: Wiktionary)
I wonder which submission these fascists plan to follow-up on...
MrLLM@ani.social · 5 pts · 345d
Can we just feed them with thispersondoesnotexist shit?
Or even better, ICE officials
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus · 104 pts · 346d
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 32 pts · 346d
I'm sure that's in the roadmap. At some point it's going to be "Love it - or leave it!".
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 346d
No way. They don’t want to miss out on the couple grand it costs to renounce your US citizenship
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 2 pts · 345d
That's possible too.
salty_chief@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
Yep, everyone ready to forgo citizenship until it cost $2k.
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
No reason to dump the citizenship. I know you're still required to pay taxes, but what can they do if you just...don't? Right now there's extradition, but with Dipshit Donnie trashing international relations, those treaties won't last forever.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 345d
If you’re actually serious, and if you fall into the LGBTQ+ umbrella, you may be able to come to Canada as a refugee.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/about-refugee-system/2slgbtqi-plus.html
I’m not sure if the USA qualifies yet, but I read they’re working on it. That may be in effect already, I’m not sure.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
There's been I believe one trans person and one NB person so far who have claimed refugee status here..
Canada is lovely ❤️
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 345d
You can tell I’m very Canadian because I read NB as New Brunswick and was very confused for a minute. Non-binary makes a lot more sense in context.
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 345d
There are options, but you probably won't like them...
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 345d
The darker your skincolor, the higher the fuckoff bonus. Money for Melanin (TM)
/s of course. For me, at least. Sigh.
Steve@startrek.website · 5 pts · 345d
Its for undocumented people right? How will they find out your identity if you dont give it to them?
horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 345d
Surely there are a large number of 'sovereign citizens' out there who don't have any proof that they are US citizens?
MrLLM@ani.social · 3 pts · 345d
You gotta start practicing your Spanish
/sTreczoks@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 345d
The clue is: "you may be eglible". Turn yourself in, and all you will get is a free flight if you are lucky. To somewhere.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 34 pts · 345d
the flight and the cash are not real. neither is the cake.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 345d
Me eating cake: I knew this was too good!
thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca · 70 pts · 346d
We pinky promise to follow through on being nice and not detaining/disappearing you.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 345d
"Ok, yes, tRUMP is known for not paying his bills but he will deffo pay you if you report yourself. Honest!!"
thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org · 40 pts · 346d
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
murmurations@lemmy.sdf.org · 31 pts · 346d
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 346d
Is there any way to game this and make bank somehow?
Rothe@piefed.social · 31 pts · 346d
They are not going to give anyone any money. As soon as people turn up to cash in they are going to be sent straight to Alligator Auschwitz.
tordenflesk@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d
Crochau?
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 346d
I assume if you were planning to leave anyway. It helps their numbers. It helps you. Like, maybe 20 years ago, financial immigration was one way. Nowadays the qualified immigrants just go elsewhere, lol. The USA is not that special and is actively hostile.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
If you're in that position, it's honestly beneficial to do so. I wish I had such an opportunity to leave this country.
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 345d
Sounds like a good way to have the ICE goonsquad show up at your house at 3 am. God damn I hate this country
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 345d
I'm a citizen but my partner and I departed for another country, how do I claim my free flight and $2000
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 346d
bruh I don’t want taxes used for this
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 345d
I guess that could be an alright deal if you somehow know you were being kicked out anyway
Delphia@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
Everyone commenting that they wont pay or its all a trap isnt thinking about the optics and expense. Im not SAYING that they are wrong, or that the whole initiative ISNT evil (it is) but paying Ice agents, vehicles, camps, etc. All costs money (more than you would think) and makes you look like assholes (which they are). People deciding to pack up and leave on their own, withdrawing their savings selling their vehicles and leaving willingly on a plane costs less than the whole track down, round up, detain and deporting process and is considerably less bad for the optics.
My grandparents fled germany in the 30s back when being Jewish was becoming dangerous but they were still content for you to just GTFO. I wouldnt be surprised if it was legit... Still fucking wrong tho.
painteddoggie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
In that case, what's ICE planning on using their new, bigger-than-most-militarys' budget for? I'm not implying you're wrong, because you do make some good points, but I want to remind everyone of the obscene amount of money they have.
Delphia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
The vast majority who wont take them up on it.
If the per capita cost of deporting someone against their will is $10,000 and the cost of deporting someone consentually is $10,000 its still a win. Its just less work, every person who leaves voluntarily frees up the snatch teams to go after someone who doesnt.
insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
It could be legit and a peaceful way to go but so far that's not how this administration has operated. So it still could be legit but what a massive risk that is to take.
Saleh@feddit.org · 1 pts · 345d
Money really is not the issue here.
We see authoritarian and inhumane measures to "solve", often exacerbate, societal situations that could have been dealt with much more effectively for way less money.
Being cruel is a means to intimidate the broader population and the people behind it are willing to pay a big premium on it.
horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 345d
What happens if a lot of natural born american citizens flood the system by reporting 'themselves'?
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 345d
They get deported I'd assume.
reptar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 345d
Dude, I still kinda wanna
trolololol@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
What about I fill it for ted cruz?
bless@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 345d
You have to use his birth name, Raphael
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 345d
Now when I visit the US I only need to buy the inbound flight for me and my family. And I get $4000 spending money.
This will really boost tourism.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 346d
Shit man, maybe I should have done that when I left the UK. I could have gotten them to fucking pay me on top of getting away from a shithole
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 346d
What are the odds they just use this to find people to arrest and throw in concentration camps?
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 345d
8647/1
precisely
JohnSwanFromTheLough@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
So not likely at all?
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 345d
Scratch that, reverse it...
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
No, you had it right.
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 345d
Weren't there reports of exactly this already happening?