Pete Hegseth Says the Renamed ‘Department of War’ Stands for ‘Peace’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pete-hegseth-says-the-renamed-department-of-war-stands-for-peace/

So when are we going to have always been at war with Eurasia?

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TommySoda@lemmy.world · 241 pts · 352d (16 replies)

Sooo... War is peace? Like, literally from the book 1984? Alright, then.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 77 pts · 352d (3 replies)

You know how far right conservatives love to accuse the left of ushering in 1984? Literally every accusation is a confession, it's wild how predictable it is.

tdawg@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 352d

The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 352d

It is called projection. Hardcore criminals assume everyone must think like they do.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d

Well, the same Confederate dipshits don't even understand that Orwell was a socialist, and want to claim him as one of theirs, so there's that. Much like they want to cherry-pick MLK and claim he'd be a Republican today, LOL.

Zier@fedia.io · 39 pts · 352d (2 replies)

Doubleplusgood.

kautau@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 352d

Thanks Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to 20 grams per week

mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d

doubleplusUNgood.

Goodthinked that for you.

threeonefour@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 352d (4 replies)

At least in the book the government has an explanation for it. "War is peace" because the local population is much more nationalistic and supportive of the incumbent government when fighting a war. Critics of the government can be declared traitors and enemy sympathizers and locked up without trial. People are also more accepting of rationing and lowering the standard of living in order to support the war effort. The war doesn't even need to be real. The government can just make up a war and get all the benefits that come from it.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 352d (2 replies)

Like a "war on terror?"

threeonefour@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 352d

War on drugs. War on terror. War on crime.

comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 5 pts · 352d

War on wokeness

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 6 pts · 352d

That's why Trump is trying to start a few wars in South America

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 352d (1 reply)

As if he read the book. This just shows that fascists have no original thought, since every fascist will resort to doublethink to hide their intentions.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 350d

As if he read the book.

As if he read a book. . .

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 352d (1 reply)

Ignorance is strength

floofloof@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 352d

It is when it's the ignorance of the gullible rubes who prop up your cult.

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 70 pts · 352d (1 reply)

Orwell was bang on.

cadekat@pawb.social · 24 pts · 352d

It wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual!

Bonus@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 352d (5 replies)
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resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 352d (4 replies)

"Because you got all Cs in high school?"

Bonus@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 352d (3 replies)
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resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 352d (1 reply)

God, how I've wanted to say this to a cop who pulled me over.

Bonus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 352d
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Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 352d

😘👌

henfredemars@infosec.pub · 30 pts · 352d

Up is down. Black is white. Good is evil.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 352d

"Fighting for Peace is like fucking for Virginity.". - John Lennon

Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 352d
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CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one · 21 pts · 351d

Wow. We're already jumping to "war is peace". I honestly thought we had a little more time before full 1984. Fuck it, why not.

nozone@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 352d (5 replies)

This guy is cringe master supreme. He's trying to role play as a hardened bad ass but he's softer than a dairy queen on a hot summer day.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 352d

He looks like he thinks he's Timothy Olyphant

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 352d

Is the Dairy Queen itself made of dairy?

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 351d

He's 10-ply.

derry@midwest.social · 2 pts · 351d (1 reply)

Softer than a porn star on take 32. And with no fluffer in site

wildcardology@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d

I think fluffers became obsolete with the rise of Viagra.

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 352d

They used to gaslight with a little finesse. That drunkard has no finesse

uhmbah@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 352d (2 replies)

War ≠ peace

Hegseth ≠ reason

SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 352d (1 reply)

War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength

EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 352d

Florida’s (is it their surgeon general?) said vaccines are slavery so that’s 2, and a certain group going around calling themselves something liberty are banning books and calling it a way to be a stronger and more United country so theres all 3.

mechoman444@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 351d

War is peace

~Geoege Orwell

don@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 352d

I’m all for drinking, but I’ll be fucked if I’m going to believe anything MC Hammered “We’re clean on OPSEC” has to say.

opus86@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 352d (1 reply)

The they should have renamed it The Department of Peace. DOP.

logicbomb@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 352d

Ministry of Peace is more on brand for them.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 352d (1 reply)

These people can't tell the difference. It's all the same, that's why Trump can't believe he hasn't won a Nobel prize for peace.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 352d

He must have accepted that he's not getting the Nobel. They don't give Peace Prizes to someone who adds the Department of WAR to his government. That's not sending the right message of Peace.

aarRJaay@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 352d

Then why not call it "The Department of Peace"

FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 352d (2 replies)

At war with Eurasia? Oh man wait until you learn about the Middle East.

meco03211@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 352d (1 reply)

Wait I thought we were always at war with East Asia? Did I miss a memo?

Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d

Yeaaah, we're putting cover sheets on all the TPS reports now before they go out.

Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 351d
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frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 7 pts · 352d

I mean I guess if your definition of peace includes oligarchs vacuuming up resources and torturing people while roaming armies prowl the streets for unattended females.

AngryRobot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 351d

Paging Mr. Orwell!

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 351d

A ministry of peace you say?

SeriousMite@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 350d

These guys don’t doublespeak very well. You’re doing it backwards Pete.

MehBlah@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 350d

The ole 1984 handbook.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 351d

badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 351d
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SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d

Well I have to admit at least they are honest about the US being in a state of eternal war.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d

The Ministry of Truth should just call it the Ministry of Peace.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 350d

Yeah, we get it, and freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.

WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 352d

Is “stand for peace” the name of anew cocktail?

m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d

department of peace

ubergeek@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 350d

MiniPax, MiniLuv, and MiniTru.

Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 350d (1 reply)

Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity…

ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 350d

That reference is going to (sadly) go over wore a few folks' heads, but I remember Bush and Powell's insane justifications.

sircac@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d

Neolingua here we go!