Isn't Patinkin saying as much because he sees the genocide being committed in Gaza and thinks that it will hurt Jewish people worldwide to have such a heinous crime hanging over their shared culture? That he's rightfully worried that the world will turn on Jewish people worldwide after seeing the horrors of what Netanyahu has done in Gaza?
A quote from Patinkin:
"How could it be done to you and your ancestors, and you turn around and do it to someone else?"
Huh, sounds like he understand the situation pretty well and isn't peddling total bullshit like Seinfeld.
Yeah, I mean it can be both. Israel committing genocide is both wrong and makes the Jewish people less safe, as they have a country and its leaders creating more enemies in their name. Not all Jewish people agree with Netanyahu or live in Israel.
It sounds like he is making an argument to the people committing the genocide and supporting it to show them why it is in their best interest not to do it. Using moral arguments with some people and groups is a waste of time.
They already Trust the people convincing them to do it.
In a July 2025 New York Times interview with his wife Grody, Patinkin was critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's policies during the Gaza War, arguing that his actions are "endangering the Jewish population all over the world" and that "to watch what is happening, for the Jewish people to allow this to happen to children and civilians of all ages in Gaza, for whatever reason, is unconscionable and unthinkable."[64][65][66]
Seinfeld used to be my favorite show alongside the simpsons. Luckily Larry David has not come out of the closet as a total piece of shit. He was the one that wrote almost the entire Seinfeld series.
The personality of the actor always outweighs the role they play in movies for me. I love the original Mission Impossible as a kid, but that was destroyed when the story was appropriated by scientology.
No matter how "good" a character is in the movies, it's ruined by knowing the person playing that character is a complete douche.
The problem for me is not what it seems though. I love good movies and part of that experience is complete and total immersion in the quality of the filming, acting, visual effects, sound and storyline. It's almost a hypnotic state and it doesn't take much for me to get distracted. A complete jackass of an actor is a distraction.
Wild that George and Elaine are the best humans of those four when they were arguably the worst in the show. Fuck Jerry, fuck Michael Richards, and even though he’s otherwise been ok fuck Larry for the crytpo shilling
I’ve posted this elsewhere, I don’t think Richards is a piece of shit like Seinfeld.
The Michael Richards incident was a literal one time event, albeit a terrible one. There were zero instances before and zero instances after that suggest Richards is racist. Everything since then Michaels has done suggests he’s exceedingly remorseful over it.
I am not excusing it in the least, but I don’t think it’s even close to fair to compare him to someone currently supporting the genocide in Palestine.
It looks to me like what they're referring to is Michael Richards tirade being uncomparable to Jerry's comments that were supporting the genocide. That's how I read it, anyway.
But I mean he (Richards) was talking about lynching the guy at the Laugh Factory, so even as far as racism goes, that's pretty fucking up there.
Is it [Richard’s comments] even close to [ being as bad as] publicly supporting a genocide? Hell no.
I'm saying Richards may be a better person than Seinfeld, but I wouldn't excuse his words or actions because they're not something a non-racist would ever even think to do or say.
I think it's important to watch the clip that this headline of Mandy Patinkin is referencing to be able to appreciate the fuller context of this meme. Unfortunately, this meme is vague enough to confuse people comparing what Seinfeld said with what Patinkin said. Patkin also does an amazing throw back to Princess Bride to make his point too! https://youtu.be/dFjOb9DGS1w
Wow, that's just fucking dishonest for people to twist what he actually mean. Just because his perspective didn't start from the people of gaza doesn't mean he didn't think the situation is fucked up and the israel government is fucking evil. People who twist his words have the ulterior motive of wanting the eradication of Israel.
Edit: on second thought, the pic above doesn't claim patinkin don't care about the palestinians, but they word it in a way it feels like he just care about the israeli.
Well you see, when you're insulated from horrors, you might not be aware that they are horrors.
Like how vaccines have insulated most of us from the horrors of disease, and consequently there are a shit-ton of people who don't take disease precautions seriously. Just had a guy at the hardware store give me a dirty look, presumably because I was masking.
With everyone also still thinking about the Epstein files, you really think now is the time to open your mouth and say some dumb shit, Jerry? Trying to distract people so they won’t bring up your 17 year old girlfriend again?
A clueless and amoral Ashkenazi/European "Jew" supports the genocidal ethnostate his forefathers fought so hard to build and his tribe is currently murdering innocents to maintain? Woah!
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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 285 pts · 337d
I know Seinfeld is just a piece of shit, but...
Isn't Patinkin saying as much because he sees the genocide being committed in Gaza and thinks that it will hurt Jewish people worldwide to have such a heinous crime hanging over their shared culture? That he's rightfully worried that the world will turn on Jewish people worldwide after seeing the horrors of what Netanyahu has done in Gaza?
A quote from Patinkin:
Huh, sounds like he understand the situation pretty well and isn't peddling total bullshit like Seinfeld.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 336d
Yeah, I watched him speak on the subject, in a similar clip, he ends up screaming about the atrocities being done and how truly awful it is.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 336d
Yeah, I mean it can be both. Israel committing genocide is both wrong and makes the Jewish people less safe, as they have a country and its leaders creating more enemies in their name. Not all Jewish people agree with Netanyahu or live in Israel.
hector@lemmy.today · 27 pts · 336d
It sounds like he is making an argument to the people committing the genocide and supporting it to show them why it is in their best interest not to do it. Using moral arguments with some people and groups is a waste of time.
They already Trust the people convincing them to do it.
db2@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 336d
Thank dog, I thought I was going to have to not watch Inigo Montoya again.
Alatain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 335d
Just as a heads up, but if you did enjoy the Princess Bride, the book/Audio book "As You Wish" is legitimately delightful.
A good amount of the cast get together to talk about all the interesting things that went into making the movie.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 110 pts · 337d
Jesus fucking Christ. What a cretin Seinfeld is.
Based Inigo Montoyo, at least.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 337d
Can't express my relief that he's a good guy. Having a complicated relationship with The Princess Bride would break me tbh
Trex202@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 336d
Inconceivable!
Soulg@ani.social · -5 pts · 336d
You could just enjoy the movie regardless of what one actor might think?
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 336d
Is that how it works for you? The Thriller album is still a bop for me but I'd never call it an uncomplicated enjoyment. Just an example.
hector@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 336d
No. Not on this.
Seinfeld used to be my favorite show alongside the simpsons. Luckily Larry David has not come out of the closet as a total piece of shit. He was the one that wrote almost the entire Seinfeld series.
remotelove@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 336d
The personality of the actor always outweighs the role they play in movies for me. I love the original Mission Impossible as a kid, but that was destroyed when the story was appropriated by scientology.
No matter how "good" a character is in the movies, it's ruined by knowing the person playing that character is a complete douche.
The problem for me is not what it seems though. I love good movies and part of that experience is complete and total immersion in the quality of the filming, acting, visual effects, sound and storyline. It's almost a hypnotic state and it doesn't take much for me to get distracted. A complete jackass of an actor is a distraction.
cmbabul@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 337d
Wild that George and Elaine are the best humans of those four when they were arguably the worst in the show. Fuck Jerry, fuck Michael Richards, and even though he’s otherwise been ok fuck Larry for the crytpo shilling
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 336d
I’ve posted this elsewhere, I don’t think Richards is a piece of shit like Seinfeld.
Soulg@ani.social · 9 pts · 336d
Richards just did a bad thing once trying to shut down a heckler and it backfired hard. People just don't want to ever forgive.
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d
Is it even close to publicly supporting a genocide? Hell no. Is it something a non-racist person would ever even think to say? Also hell no.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 336d
So you excuse Seinfeld here, but still hold Richards 100% accountable?
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 336d
Also a hell no. In fact what are you talking about? What did I say that you feel implied that?
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 336d
cyberwitch@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 336d
It looks to me like what they're referring to is Michael Richards tirade being uncomparable to Jerry's comments that were supporting the genocide. That's how I read it, anyway.
But I mean he (Richards) was talking about lynching the guy at the Laugh Factory, so even as far as racism goes, that's pretty fucking up there.
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 336d
Okay, I suppose I was too vague.
I'm saying Richards may be a better person than Seinfeld, but I wouldn't excuse his words or actions because they're not something a non-racist would ever even think to do or say.
Hope that is clear now.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 336d
Nah, they are saying Seinfeld is excusing a genocide.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 336d
Larry David introduced RFK Jr and his wife (Cheryl Hines, also from cye)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 336d
jason alexander has better acting range, than nazi seinfeld. he played kursk in voyager star trek.
Noblesavage@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 336d
I think it's important to watch the clip that this headline of Mandy Patinkin is referencing to be able to appreciate the fuller context of this meme. Unfortunately, this meme is vague enough to confuse people comparing what Seinfeld said with what Patinkin said. Patkin also does an amazing throw back to Princess Bride to make his point too! https://youtu.be/dFjOb9DGS1w
khannie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 336d
This is the context I came to the comments for. Thank you. I knew Mandy was a solid human.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 336d
Wow, that's just fucking dishonest for people to twist what he actually mean. Just because his perspective didn't start from the people of gaza doesn't mean he didn't think the situation is fucked up and the israel government is fucking evil. People who twist his words have the ulterior motive of wanting the eradication of Israel.
Edit: on second thought, the pic above doesn't claim patinkin don't care about the palestinians, but they word it in a way it feels like he just care about the israeli.
FLP22012005@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d
The meme could be interpreted as contrasting the two. I read it as such at first, but started doubting as I read the comments.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 336d
I just love Mandy for that shrillness he allows into his voice at the end. He’s passionate about this.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 40 pts · 337d
I have words. Jerry is a piece of shit. Mandy is a treasure.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 336d
hes the guy that left criminal MINDS show, because it became too glorified for violence.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 15 pts · 337d
seriously what is the deal with dumb celebrities?
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 336d
Obligatory Mandy Patinkin was making the opposite point than is suggested by the OP's excerpt
neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 336d
Rich enough to outrun consequences.
metoosalem@feddit.org · 1 pts · 337d
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
The elephant graveyard is a Joe Rogan channel.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com · 1 pts · 336d
Well you see, when you're insulated from horrors, you might not be aware that they are horrors.
Like how vaccines have insulated most of us from the horrors of disease, and consequently there are a shit-ton of people who don't take disease precautions seriously. Just had a guy at the hardware store give me a dirty look, presumably because I was masking.
digital_man@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 336d
Want to point out Seinfeld is currently on tour and basically trying to get free press to sell tickets.
He doesn’t care about anything but his shit ton of money. Fuck him.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 336d
His money and underage women
Godric@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 335d
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 335d
With everyone also still thinking about the Epstein files, you really think now is the time to open your mouth and say some dumb shit, Jerry? Trying to distract people so they won’t bring up your 17 year old girlfriend again?
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 335d
bring up or dig up?
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 334d
What a piece of work.
danekrae@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 337d
I never saw the appeal of Seinfeld. Joseph Goebbels was just a little bit funnier.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 336d
goebbels seinfled.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 336d
A clueless and amoral Ashkenazi/European "Jew" supports the genocidal ethnostate his forefathers fought so hard to build and his tribe is currently murdering innocents to maintain? Woah!
unrealizedrealities@kbin.melroy.org · 5 pts · 337d
OMG you can have good and bad jews? is that a thing?
morphballganon@mtgzone.com · 2 pts · 336d
You can have good and bad people, for sure. I don't see why those categories couldn't each include any/every religion.
unrealizedrealities@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 332d
Good gravy, are you saying people should be judged by their actions, not their beliefs?
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 336d
Good Jew: Jesus, from Nazareth.
Bad Jew: Jared, from Subway.
unrealizedrealities@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 332d
i appreciate your commentary, it adds to the debate
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 336d