He is a shadow of his former dickish self, he is falling asleep during televised meetings, reading off of a teleprompter a lot, and otherwise just bumbling through running on auto dick.
she is, personally, with no consideration for her husband, extremely conservative. she's one of those terrifying people from a soviet or post soviet state who views putin as the great protector from the evils of communism, ignoring he's doing all the worst things about the soviet union without a single one of the upsides
Communism/socialism requires some mechanism to compel cooperation with the collective's objectives. The greater the degree of central planning, the greater the authoritarianism required to implement it. When you reach a level of centralization sufficient to justify the "communism" label, you're well into the "authoritarian" quadrants.
And if the Lucchese Crime Family or the Hoover FBI had been on its game, there would be a stack of photos of JFK fucking prostitutes a mile high. Probably even a few of him and Marylin Monroe going at it.
Trump's a gross slob. His wife is quite literally a sex trafficking victim, very possibly obtained via the Epstein Eastern European call girl network. But the fundamental difference between Kennedy and Trump isn't that one was a morbid greasy fuckboi and the other was an angel with his wings clipped. It's that Trump grew up in an era with a deeper professional (and unprofessional) backlog of photography.
To my knowledge none of JFKs affairs were non-consensual, with minors, nor with non-compensated women.
Trump was friends with, and likely using his businesses to help, known child sex traffickers, raped children himself, pissed off his adult prostitutes and brags publicly and privately about his various sexual assaults.
I mean call JFK a whore but adult sex workers and consenting movie stars really aren’t comparable. And who gives a shit about the mob? Let’s not pretend morality aligns with the law. Not all puppies and rainbows but they’re not the same.
And I would say there was a lot of blackmail in the day. They certainly got MLK Jr. and all the JFK women talked, there were even hearings. His scandals weren’t exactly quiet. In fact they were rather well known.
I think he put what was it his sister or no daughter into a mental institution to get lobotomized when it was first catching on. I don't care whom he sleeps with if it is consensual, lobotomizing your daughter because she is an embarrassment as a free spirit is a real piece of shit thing to do.
Absolutely the Kennedys have skeletons in their closet. You’re referring to Rosemary his sister. She was actually institutionalized until her death in my home state. Another fun fact, Stalin’s daughter also died in my home state. We keep all the skeletons in our closet. We also have some of the most notorious serial killers ever.
I mean you’re absolutely wrong. Muckraker journalism and intelligence was very alive and well in the 60’s and decades following. It’s wild to say otherwise. They all knew and they knew a lot. No one was covering for him raping women or diddling kids. Flat out. Full stop. He wasn’t even known to be particularly deviant, just slutty.
His own socialite wife didn’t shy from making public wry remarks about her husband’s affairs and the public discussed it constantly. And these women’s accounts are very different in tone from the victims of Trump and the eye witness accounts of MEN surrounding Trump about his behavior.
A fuckboy vs a pedophile (potentially incestuous) and multiple-time accused predator are not the same and whataboutism around that is pretty wild. It is a very disingenuous comparison.
JFK was no saint, but he’s nothing to the level of Trump. And Epstein’s child trafficking ring is not the same as the 1950’s and 60’s mob’s prostitution activities. Some families didn’t even dabble in prostitution at all. And you can’t even compare them to today’s mob. Old families even into the 70’s and 80’s had certain standards of conduct. You can’t even start to compare them to modern global traffickers.
Hate on JFK all you want but pretending there’s some magical missing evidence on him is such a stretch and goes against a lot of evidence of his actual conduct. His haters are many and his life is thoroughly documented. Every juicy lead followed to exhaustion in his time and after.
Meanwhile Trump gives even his best buddies the heebie jeebies.
At least he put up for americas interests instead of lining his own pockets and creating division. And also, who cares? I don't care if a president fucks like there's no tomorrow as long as he's a good president.
This whole "Yeah but JFK" argument sounds an awful lot like "whataboutism" here. JFK is long gone, and even so, people still lauded him as a good president, people dislike Trump more day by day, and he's a swindling self serving asshole. A couple photos aren't going to change that opinion for either of them.
That’s Alfredo, the dude who invented (or at least claims to have invented) fettuccine alfredo. He ran an Italian restaurant, and when you ordered it he would come to your table and prepare the alfredo sauce in front of you.
Real alfredo sauce is basically just butter and Parmesan; the jar sauce you find in the grocery store that says it is “made with 100% real cream” technically wouldn’t be authentic alfredo sauce, as authentic sauce doesn’t use cream. Alfredo would put a full stick of butter on the plate, then pile the hot noodles on top to melt it. He’d grate Parmesan and use his hands to mix it. The butter and Parmesan would melt together, forming the sauce. Add some spices, and you’re done. The restaurant was popular with celebrities and social elites, who enjoyed the unique dining experience.
Greed has been allowed as common practice in our moral system for quite some time, but they doubled down on that "sin" to see what they could get away with. They could get away with a lot, so they went for lust to be made commonplace. As long as it was man-woman (or the occasional under aged girl if you were a friend of Epstien) that was no problem for US morals.
I consider myself a liberal, but Im not liberal enough for the disgusting shit the "conservative" party allows. It's only going to get worse.
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Carvex@lemmy.world · 123 pts · 345d
And that’s when Titler was 9 years more mentally-competent than he is now
someguy3@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 345d
If you go back and watch him in 2016, he was much more on the ball and, uh, present.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 345d
Then go back to 2001. The cognitive decline was very apparent in 2016.
saimen@feddit.org · 1 pts · 344d
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3873339.stm
Hector@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 345d
He is a shadow of his former dickish self, he is falling asleep during televised meetings, reading off of a teleprompter a lot, and otherwise just bumbling through running on auto dick.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 345d
And that's how his handlers want him.
normanwall@lemmy.world · 98 pts · 345d
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 86 pts · 345d
she is, personally, with no consideration for her husband, extremely conservative. she's one of those terrifying people from a soviet or post soviet state who views putin as the great protector from the evils of communism, ignoring he's doing all the worst things about the soviet union without a single one of the upsides
Photuris@lemmy.ml · 66 pts · 345d
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 345d
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 345d
Fascism cannot exist without an authoritarianism element lol. Can it?
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 345d
Nor can communism.
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 344d
Debatable.
Fascism isn't.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 343d
Communism/socialism requires some mechanism to compel cooperation with the collective's objectives. The greater the degree of central planning, the greater the authoritarianism required to implement it. When you reach a level of centralization sufficient to justify the "communism" label, you're well into the "authoritarian" quadrants.
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Tell that to anarcho-communists lmao
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 344d
Exactly why I consistently have called myself an anti-authoritarian. Don't care if it's mao or franco, they can get fucked
kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 344d
I think you are still allowed to be that. Saying you are against facism (member of antifa) gets you on terrorist watch lists though.
Hector@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
Once you get around to a one-party state left and right become meaningless and they meet back up.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 343d
There are upsides for most of the oligarchs, until there aren’t.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
Her father was a fucking commie party member who was busted for tax evasion and he has a US passport. WTF, ICE should kick his ass out.
_bac@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 344d
Slovenia was never soviet.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 345d
They certainly deserve each other.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 344d
she's an absolutely terrible human being. But no one can say she was a prostitute, or you get sued. Definitely not a high priced prostitute.
aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social · 57 pts · 345d
Tell me you know nothing about the kennedys without saying you know nothing about the kennedys
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 344d
Most of the Kennedys could at least keep it together in public. They kept their dark sides in the dark.
aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social · 1 pts · 343d
Being good at hiding your vice is not a virtue
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
Better that than what we have now.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 345d
We’re really gonna use the Kennedy’s as an example?
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 345d
Even Nixon is a shining example compared to Trump.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 345d
Franklin Pierce was a better POTUS and that guy was the worst.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
What about Andrew Jackson?
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 345d
Better than Pierce IMO
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 344d
trail of tears.....cmon dude
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 344d
The US Civil War dude
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 344d
literal genocide dude. signed into law.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 343d
Hey, he did at least one thing I'd Donald to copy.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 345d
The party of religion and family values.
And their first lady's pussy is on the internet for the world to see.
mEEGal@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 345d
Disgusting !!!
... Where ?
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 345d
That's the good old family values. 👍
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 345d
Oh no, boobs.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 344d
'He and his family don't exude old money elegance' is pretty low on the list of what's wrong with Trump. I'm not even sure it's on the list at all.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 343d
Slut shaming is not OK.
Fuck Trump.
bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 344d
Is it Melania or Stormy Daniels?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 344d
Melania. And up top is Jackie Kennedy not Marilyn Monroe
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
Or mimi Beardsley or ______ or ______ or _____ or _____
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 345d
You voted for this. Over and over and over and over and over.
turdburglar@piefed.social · 7 pts · 345d
it’s got electrolytes!
Squishyfishy@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 344d
It's what plants crave!
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 345d
And if the Lucchese Crime Family or the Hoover FBI had been on its game, there would be a stack of photos of JFK fucking prostitutes a mile high. Probably even a few of him and Marylin Monroe going at it.
Trump's a gross slob. His wife is quite literally a sex trafficking victim, very possibly obtained via the Epstein Eastern European call girl network. But the fundamental difference between Kennedy and Trump isn't that one was a morbid greasy fuckboi and the other was an angel with his wings clipped. It's that Trump grew up in an era with a deeper professional (and unprofessional) backlog of photography.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 36 pts · 345d
To my knowledge none of JFKs affairs were non-consensual, with minors, nor with non-compensated women.
Trump was friends with, and likely using his businesses to help, known child sex traffickers, raped children himself, pissed off his adult prostitutes and brags publicly and privately about his various sexual assaults.
I mean call JFK a whore but adult sex workers and consenting movie stars really aren’t comparable. And who gives a shit about the mob? Let’s not pretend morality aligns with the law. Not all puppies and rainbows but they’re not the same.
And I would say there was a lot of blackmail in the day. They certainly got MLK Jr. and all the JFK women talked, there were even hearings. His scandals weren’t exactly quiet. In fact they were rather well known.
Hector@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 345d
I think he put what was it his sister or no daughter into a mental institution to get lobotomized when it was first catching on. I don't care whom he sleeps with if it is consensual, lobotomizing your daughter because she is an embarrassment as a free spirit is a real piece of shit thing to do.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 345d
Absolutely the Kennedys have skeletons in their closet. You’re referring to Rosemary his sister. She was actually institutionalized until her death in my home state. Another fun fact, Stalin’s daughter also died in my home state. We keep all the skeletons in our closet. We also have some of the most notorious serial killers ever.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 345d
Right. To your knowledge. Cause he's 60 years down the hole in an era without the modern scale of muckraker journalism.
Even then, you're doing a lot of squinting to get passed how many mob employed prostitutes in the 1950s weren't consenting, much less adults.
I seriously doubt they got everyone given how frequently that man fucked.
The press wasn't eager to report on a beloved martyred president until 20 years after his death.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 345d
I mean you’re absolutely wrong. Muckraker journalism and intelligence was very alive and well in the 60’s and decades following. It’s wild to say otherwise. They all knew and they knew a lot. No one was covering for him raping women or diddling kids. Flat out. Full stop. He wasn’t even known to be particularly deviant, just slutty.
His own socialite wife didn’t shy from making public wry remarks about her husband’s affairs and the public discussed it constantly. And these women’s accounts are very different in tone from the victims of Trump and the eye witness accounts of MEN surrounding Trump about his behavior.
A fuckboy vs a pedophile (potentially incestuous) and multiple-time accused predator are not the same and whataboutism around that is pretty wild. It is a very disingenuous comparison.
JFK was no saint, but he’s nothing to the level of Trump. And Epstein’s child trafficking ring is not the same as the 1950’s and 60’s mob’s prostitution activities. Some families didn’t even dabble in prostitution at all. And you can’t even compare them to today’s mob. Old families even into the 70’s and 80’s had certain standards of conduct. You can’t even start to compare them to modern global traffickers.
Hate on JFK all you want but pretending there’s some magical missing evidence on him is such a stretch and goes against a lot of evidence of his actual conduct. His haters are many and his life is thoroughly documented. Every juicy lead followed to exhaustion in his time and after.
Meanwhile Trump gives even his best buddies the heebie jeebies.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 345d
At least he put up for americas interests instead of lining his own pockets and creating division. And also, who cares? I don't care if a president fucks like there's no tomorrow as long as he's a good president.
This whole "Yeah but JFK" argument sounds an awful lot like "whataboutism" here. JFK is long gone, and even so, people still lauded him as a good president, people dislike Trump more day by day, and he's a swindling self serving asshole. A couple photos aren't going to change that opinion for either of them.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 345d
The Kennedys absolutely lined their own pockets.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 345d
This is why they're still so prolific today.
However, the Trump family is still, objectively worse than most of the Kennedy's.
dingus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
Lmao ok but what in the world is happening in the second pic
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 345d
That's Alfredo di Lelio, the pioneer and popular restaurantor of "Fettucine Alfredo" fame.
He would mix the pasta with the sauce tableside and hold it up to you as part of the service. Sort of the Salt Bay of its era.
frog@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 345d
There is a great Tasting History (YouTube) with that guy.
He would feed celebs by hand. Lol. Eww.
YouTube Link
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 345d
That’s Alfredo, the dude who invented (or at least claims to have invented) fettuccine alfredo. He ran an Italian restaurant, and when you ordered it he would come to your table and prepare the alfredo sauce in front of you.
Real alfredo sauce is basically just butter and Parmesan; the jar sauce you find in the grocery store that says it is “made with 100% real cream” technically wouldn’t be authentic alfredo sauce, as authentic sauce doesn’t use cream. Alfredo would put a full stick of butter on the plate, then pile the hot noodles on top to melt it. He’d grate Parmesan and use his hands to mix it. The butter and Parmesan would melt together, forming the sauce. Add some spices, and you’re done. The restaurant was popular with celebrities and social elites, who enjoyed the unique dining experience.
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 345d
It's the shame picture
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
Eww, that picture of Melania is so disgusting, yuck. What sites have more of them so I know where not to go?
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 345d
Greed has been allowed as common practice in our moral system for quite some time, but they doubled down on that "sin" to see what they could get away with. They could get away with a lot, so they went for lust to be made commonplace. As long as it was man-woman (or the occasional under aged girl if you were a friend of Epstien) that was no problem for US morals.
I consider myself a liberal, but Im not liberal enough for the disgusting shit the "conservative" party allows. It's only going to get worse.
Obnomus@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 344d
Goddamn
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 344d
DAE think women should be modest? I mean c'mon she's representing the whole nation, and I'm proud of the nation
whoever made this is a chud, and youre a chud for posting it. Find something better to critique the way a woman dresses.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 344d
I don't mind women showing off their bodies, but I will criticize her trashiness every day of the week.
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 344d
...L
jaschen306@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 343d
Melania had sex with Epstein on Epstein's plane before Trump wifed her. Trump likes sloppy seconds.