Trump Voters in Coal Country Are Becoming Bernie Bros

Sure, you're not contradicting me.

It's not a relevant point except that exciting candidates get a certain amount of people excited regardless of what side they are on.

No, it's relevant because it means that progressive politics can mobilize current or future GOP supporters rather than just progressives.

You can shove that CNN article up your ass. I was there after the fact. Was 20 years old first presidential election. Gore won it was proven in court. CNN are fucking nazi supporters.

Who’s kicking them? It’s an internet comment stating how shitty they have been and how little trust they deserve.

Let someone else suck their dick cause they may pay Bernie lip service… vs decades of voting data and the harm their very political participation has caused? You’d have to be stupid to start fawning over them now. Let them prove it then I’ll say cool. They’ve actively proved otherwise throughout my lifetime so this article ain’t moving the needle.

I'll be cantankerous... yes.

I live in a red state. My jobs are me the rare left in the entire crowd. I have to learn how to talk, chat, joke with these people. And last Trump administration I kept talking with them. Things I learned. Since I wasn't willing to immediately extol the good of Trump, I must be against him (not even talking politics, just me keeping my mouth shut.) That they're against many of the things on helping people.

But hell, years of working with one crew, I was getting them over, realizing that the wealthy were fucking us over, that the insurance that was fucking everyone over was why we needed better. That many of the "sullied" republicans were against it. Hell I think one thing that got them listening was they said something good about Biden, I couldn't keep my mouth shut and made a snark about Trump and when I was told "I said something good about your guy" I outright tore into them to never say that Biden was "my guy", I may look at lesser of evils but it wasn't some fucking football game.

But I saw chances... I saw hope that maybe... maybe they could learn. But the second Trump started running again, it was the same parroted stuff, even from a soybean ventures guy who was watching to see if his prices would ever go back up because he was losing money on it.

So no... I don't trust them. I think there are some who need to be out there to welcome the people when they're willing to join sides, yes... but there also needs to be those to remind that these are not friends, and they are very likely to stab us in the back unless they actually show that they're willing to put the work in to make change.

The thing with those types is that they hate black people and LGBT folk much more than they believe in anything the Bern is saying

I concede. I agree and hope we're right.

Unfortunately, while voting is bloodless, ousting fascism, after idiots vote it in, takes many lives.

At least Hitler was smart. Trump is a bumbling idiot.

They're still a rag, just not a right-wing one.

Yeah you're right

I think the point he's trying to make is that there's a certain combination of beliefs and personality that make Bernie so enticing to people, and his "successor" isn't clear. Which... I half-agree with. AOC is a great contender for filling his shoes, if those coal country people aren't too racist/sexist.

Trump is similar on the other side. Decades of name recognition. He has a charisma that attracts people who could fall for a cult. His nonsense way of speaking lets people fill in the blanks in a way that want to see. When he goes, who do you see as being the face of MAGA? Vance has the personality of a raw potato. Desantis has views virtually identical to Trump, but nobody really likes him.

You misread me. Bernie is cool. But there is no one else. Once he’s gone, that’s it. There’s no group, he’s one man.