Hell, PBS news last night kicked off with coverage of Kirk's memorial service, which they described as having a "massive" turnout. Interesting that they never used the word "massive" to describe the recent anti-MAGA protests.
Pbs has gotten bad lately. One of their correspondents just endorsed the lie about command and control from gazan hospitals, he saw it first hand. Then they allow some Unapologetic is real hack to come on and lie about what they are doing with no pushback. Then stuff like this. I do not know if I can even watch them anymore if they are going to just give up and run with the party line.
I sometimes describe the PBS News Hour as "Fox News aimed at old white liberals". I've been trying to wean my parents (old white liberals) off of it, but they go all the way back to the days of The MacNeil/Lehrer report and they just can't accept that it's become something entirely different decades later. The sad thing is that watching it every night leaves them suicidally depressed but they can't stop themselves.
Compared to the rest they were doing a decent job in many respects but it seems to me like they just gave up and surrendered any sort of journalistic Integrity just this last week. I understand they might have to bring out a pro-israel person, but not one pushing through such blatant fall cities with the interviewer nodding along and agreeing with everything they say. I got to find the name of that interviewer so I can let other people know how much of a piece of shit he is.
I haven't watched to much this week, but the issues with Charlie Kirk have extended to every news platform. Earlier this year, they were pretty good about their reporting on Palestine which leads me to believe this is an issue with that particular host.
The fact that anyone believes anything anyone says online anymore is ludicrous. Opinions were swayed by bots, that then pushed legitimate people over into an unrealistic ideology. Sure, there are REAL people saying this toxic shit, but it was all pushed over the edge by bots/bad actors.
The danger comes when people think ANY of these "top comments" are what 'the public really thinks'.
We need a new net with no bots. with PRIVACY and no bots.
Wait, are they really claiming to be registering as actual Nazi's now???
For anyone that somehow doesn't know, Nazi was originally an abbreviation for Nationalsozialist (German for National Socialist). Its kind of insane that these fake democrat twitter bots are claiming to be switching teams to the literal Nazi party, instead of republican/maga.
Don't read/make comments while half asleep kids, makes you look dumb.
As a lifelong Democrat, I didn't know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I've since spent several lunch breaks watching his assassination (FULL video) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me
What I really don't understand is why are we still seeing copy-pasted messages from bots in 2025. We have LLMs now. We had for a couple of years. It's not that hard to generate unique messages. You'd think (the people operating) these bots would use that?
This is genuinely depressing. This isn't people getting their orders and posting thusly, this is one asshole with their bot accounts. Most of Social Media is malarkey, Dead Internet Theory will slowly become true as AI invades more and more spaces.
Sad thing is that in this day and age, they'd hardly need to lift a finger to have this rephrased 100 times. But they know they don't have to. People eat up the garbage from their feed, people (often the same) know that a lot of it is Russian bots.
p. s: Still surprised how poorly ChatGPT-5 Thinking handled this. A lot of obvious bot content, such as "weeks of uncut videos and policy dives" by a Democrat, "attended a live event" etc.
At this point, I think it's a feature. Just like how when Russia does propaganda, they lie so big it's easily disproven, so once someone bites down on it they're pulled into a fake world
The old style of US propaganda was to flood the zone - bury what you want to hide out in the open and add so much more information people can't be bothered to learn about it.
The new style (even before chat gpt) seems to be an ocean of bots and bullshit. Who cares if you can spot a bot if you already don't trust anyone online? It's destroying organic communication so we're forced to go to a central source, which are controlled
The thing to understand is that people don't see outside of their silos.
While it's obvious when you line then up like that most people will never see that posts. The interact with social media passively and they're likely to only see one of those posts as they scroll.
I've also fallen for and followed a fake account before. It was some neckbeard pretending to be a female disabled doctor. Apparently, he actually was some kind of advocate for the disabled, possibly started with the self-justification to "help".
Is the one about Kirk unbelievable? Some parts, yes, such as the immediate registration as Republican (not shown in screenshots), but in general, there are favorable non-Republican responses, such as "Shoe on Head". I'm also upset about quotes out of context, that part seems to be real, and so it builds a bridge from reality to fiction. It's just that I wouldn't turn full MAGA because Stephen King smeared a conservative.
Before I sarcastically say I'm shocked I should look up if it's a real surname.... No dice. Gamers and a furaffinity account appears to be referencing the person, and there's a children's book that includes the word in the title.
So without further ado, I'M SHOCKED! SHOCKED I SAY!!!!
So am I one of those people who used to be a huge conservative and I did listen to Charlie years and years ago. I watched way too many of his little debates.
But once you get out of the echo chambers and start questioning anything he said, you would be attacked instantly by the right.
Charlies main thing was to take someone's serious question, and focus on one little part he could exploit and drill them for it. It was a great way for his supporters to say "YEAHHHH GET EM!!!" While the person asking the question never got an actual answer and instead was laughed at and mocked.
It was all propaganda and designed to separate people and he was a horrible person.
I have no proof of the three specific users in the screenshot being Russian, but they do the exact same thing to neighbouring European states to drive division and push them to far right leaders, who are easier to corrupt and onboard for Putin/Russia. Right now they're kicking out a whole lot of Charlie Kirk misinformation to capitalize on fractures in the US.
As a lifelong idiot, I watched Charlie Kirk say that he's nervous when he sees a black pilot. That's what confirmed what everyone else was saying. He is a horrible gifter that uses racist language to make money. I don't give a crap how his racist family and friends feel. Fuck toilet paper USA.
Ahh I see... Thanks for the clarification. I had forgotten that Sept 10 was the day it happened and thought it was a reference to the time period preceding 9/11. So you can imagine my confusion lol
They're keeping it in the news cycle because it's the only thing that stopped the Epstein files. We need to keep hammering Epstein while talking with Trump. Maybe they kill Hannity or RFK next.
you can't be xeonophobic against something that isn't alive. thats like saying im spreading xenophobia against hammers. its just a tool, being used, by HUMANS
I would assume that the US understanding of corporate "speech" rights (per Citizens United) will at some point lead to a Supreme Court ruling that grants explicit personhood (including the right to political affiliation) to corporations and AI bots by extension.
As a lifelong Democrat, I didn't know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I've since spent several lunch breaks watching his debates (FULL videos) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me Show more
As a lifelong chicken, I don't know what to make of Colonel Sanders. I've since spent several factory-farm feeding sessions, watching his cooking lessons (FULL live-in-person-show), and have come away with the impression that we, chicken-kind, got him all wrong. The reactions from my species — have really made me question my entire existence.
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takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 175 pts · 342d
That's how social media gives impression that there is more hard right people.
Unfortunately it also amplifies the existing ones, because makes them think they are the majority.
kautau@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 342d
Yes but also
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 342d
this was also all over reddit posts, to with the exact same messaging,"a democrat that supports charlie kirk.
kautau@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 342d
Yeah and Facebook, and Instagram, and truth social, and TikTok and etc etc
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 341d
Hell, PBS news last night kicked off with coverage of Kirk's memorial service, which they described as having a "massive" turnout. Interesting that they never used the word "massive" to describe the recent anti-MAGA protests.
hector@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 341d
Pbs has gotten bad lately. One of their correspondents just endorsed the lie about command and control from gazan hospitals, he saw it first hand. Then they allow some Unapologetic is real hack to come on and lie about what they are doing with no pushback. Then stuff like this. I do not know if I can even watch them anymore if they are going to just give up and run with the party line.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 341d
I sometimes describe the PBS News Hour as "Fox News aimed at old white liberals". I've been trying to wean my parents (old white liberals) off of it, but they go all the way back to the days of The MacNeil/Lehrer report and they just can't accept that it's become something entirely different decades later. The sad thing is that watching it every night leaves them suicidally depressed but they can't stop themselves.
hector@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 341d
Compared to the rest they were doing a decent job in many respects but it seems to me like they just gave up and surrendered any sort of journalistic Integrity just this last week. I understand they might have to bring out a pro-israel person, but not one pushing through such blatant fall cities with the interviewer nodding along and agreeing with everything they say. I got to find the name of that interviewer so I can let other people know how much of a piece of shit he is.
SpaceCheeseWizard@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 341d
That's how I would describe CNN.
I haven't watched to much this week, but the issues with Charlie Kirk have extended to every news platform. Earlier this year, they were pretty good about their reporting on Palestine which leads me to believe this is an issue with that particular host.
papertowels@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 341d
Tbf the memorial filled the stadium and people had to go into a prepped overflow space. Objectively speaking, that's a good amount of folks.
NPR used terms like "flooding the streets" and "5 million people" to describe the anti maga protests, which should scratch the itch?
What articles are you referring to that don't cover the protests to your satisfaction?
If you're going to go after public broadcasting, which just lost all of its federal funding, I hope you have receipts.
FluxUniversity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 338d
The fact that anyone believes anything anyone says online anymore is ludicrous. Opinions were swayed by bots, that then pushed legitimate people over into an unrealistic ideology. Sure, there are REAL people saying this toxic shit, but it was all pushed over the edge by bots/bad actors.
The danger comes when people think ANY of these "top comments" are what 'the public really thinks'.
We need a new net with no bots. with PRIVACY and no bots.
dumbass@aussie.zone · 109 pts · 342d
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 6 pts · 341d
never gets old ... uhm, young
wulrus@lemmy.world · 106 pts · 341d
The spam detection works, though!
(As intended - on the ones criticising these posts.)
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 341d
Lol
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz · 76 pts · 342d
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 341d
DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca · -11 pts · 342d
Wait, are they really claiming to be registering as actual Nazi's now???For anyone that somehow doesn't know, Nazi was originally an abbreviation for Nationalsozialist (German for National Socialist). Its kind of insane that these fake democrat twitter bots are claiming to be switching teams to the literal Nazi party, instead of republican/maga.Don't read/make comments while half asleep kids, makes you look dumb.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
It’s sarcasm.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 341d
DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 341d
Guess I was not awake enough to catch the other edits - no one else posted the full message and I assumed you did.
I don't use shitter, and its not worth it to pull up an alternate frontend just to see what shitty bots post on it.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 341d
PugJesus@piefed.social · 59 pts · 342d
As a lifelong Democrat, I didn't know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I've since spent several lunch breaks watching his assassination (FULL video) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me
NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 342d
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SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 342d
Damn. When have the democrats ever really made me show more? This comment has converted me to a full blown nazi 'publican
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 342d
I need a trans person to bash and a baby to neglect. NOW.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 341d
What I really don't understand is why are we still seeing copy-pasted messages from bots in 2025. We have LLMs now. We had for a couple of years. It's not that hard to generate unique messages. You'd think (the people operating) these bots would use that?
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 52 pts · 341d
Bots on social media are like toupées, they look fake, unnatural and are easy to spot.
Does it mean that bots/toupees look fake and unnatural ? No, it means that we can only spot the bad ones, the good ones stay unnoticed.
obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com · 5 pts · 341d
obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 341d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
is there an analogy where all toupees look like roadkill because i have a family member that needs to embrace his baldness.
bunchberry@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 341d
The government isn't known to use up-to-date technology.
Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 341d
Astroturfing is done to mass spam messages efficiently. LLMs add so much extra workload it kills the point.
Patches@ttrpg.network · 2 pts · 341d
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 53 pts · 341d
All verified accounts too. 🙄
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 25 pts · 341d
It's not "verified", it's "premium"
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 341d
Yes, but when Elon bought Twitter, he said adding a paid subscription was a way to verify accounts.
We all knew it was bullshit, but we should still call them out on lying.
floo@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 341d
ameancow@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 341d
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 341d
How do I get in on this? Never used Twitter, but I will for money.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 341d
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 341d
Ain't nobody got time for that
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d
Then the smoke got me... I got bronchitis!
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Don't forget that "live in a place with an extremely low cost of living" is a part of this equation as well.
I don't know if anyone in the US could actually live on that sort of Twitter income.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d
Godric@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 342d
This is genuinely depressing. This isn't people getting their orders and posting thusly, this is one asshole with their bot accounts. Most of Social Media is malarkey, Dead Internet Theory will slowly become true as AI invades more and more spaces.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 43 pts · 342d
Most of our social media is filtered through 5 American corporations, all of whom are intensely interested in AI.
wulrus@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 341d
Sad thing is that in this day and age, they'd hardly need to lift a finger to have this rephrased 100 times. But they know they don't have to. People eat up the garbage from their feed, people (often the same) know that a lot of it is Russian bots.
p. s: Still surprised how poorly ChatGPT-5 Thinking handled this. A lot of obvious bot content, such as "weeks of uncut videos and policy dives" by a Democrat, "attended a live event" etc.
theneverfox@pawb.social · 12 pts · 341d
At this point, I think it's a feature. Just like how when Russia does propaganda, they lie so big it's easily disproven, so once someone bites down on it they're pulled into a fake world
The old style of US propaganda was to flood the zone - bury what you want to hide out in the open and add so much more information people can't be bothered to learn about it.
The new style (even before chat gpt) seems to be an ocean of bots and bullshit. Who cares if you can spot a bot if you already don't trust anyone online? It's destroying organic communication so we're forced to go to a central source, which are controlled
tempest@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 341d
The thing to understand is that people don't see outside of their silos.
While it's obvious when you line then up like that most people will never see that posts. The interact with social media passively and they're likely to only see one of those posts as they scroll.
wulrus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
I've also fallen for and followed a fake account before. It was some neckbeard pretending to be a female disabled doctor. Apparently, he actually was some kind of advocate for the disabled, possibly started with the self-justification to "help".
Oh wow, apparently it was a bigger deal than I thought back then: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jule_Stinkesocke
Is the one about Kirk unbelievable? Some parts, yes, such as the immediate registration as Republican (not shown in screenshots), but in general, there are favorable non-Republican responses, such as "Shoe on Head". I'm also upset about quotes out of context, that part seems to be real, and so it builds a bridge from reality to fiction. It's just that I wouldn't turn full MAGA because Stephen King smeared a conservative.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 341d
Stink e sock e? And the name was fake?
Before I sarcastically say I'm shocked I should look up if it's a real surname.... No dice. Gamers and a furaffinity account appears to be referencing the person, and there's a children's book that includes the word in the title.
So without further ado, I'M SHOCKED! SHOCKED I SAY!!!!
wulrus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d
It was a shock, and my faith in the internet will be lost entirely if it turns out that your name is not actually Killgrind.
(Her supposed real name was Julia
GoetheGothe, in case anyone wants to know. Former Twitter handle @JuleStinkesocke.)Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 341d
Well I did not look up enough! That was the real fake part of the fake whole.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 341d
So am I one of those people who used to be a huge conservative and I did listen to Charlie years and years ago. I watched way too many of his little debates.
But once you get out of the echo chambers and start questioning anything he said, you would be attacked instantly by the right.
Charlies main thing was to take someone's serious question, and focus on one little part he could exploit and drill them for it. It was a great way for his supporters to say "YEAHHHH GET EM!!!" While the person asking the question never got an actual answer and instead was laughed at and mocked.
It was all propaganda and designed to separate people and he was a horrible person.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 342d
IP: Russia.
I have no proof of the three specific users in the screenshot being Russian, but they do the exact same thing to neighbouring European states to drive division and push them to far right leaders, who are easier to corrupt and onboard for Putin/Russia. Right now they're kicking out a whole lot of Charlie Kirk misinformation to capitalize on fractures in the US.
https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/russian-chinese-and-iranian-state
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/after-charlie-kirk-s-killing-false-claims-flourish-online-with-help-from-us-adversaries/ar-AA1MLvj0
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 5 pts · 341d
You're not wrong but the Internet Research Agency has been outsourcing for a while now as well as make use of VPNs.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 342d
As a lifelong idiot, I watched Charlie Kirk say that he's nervous when he sees a black pilot. That's what confirmed what everyone else was saying. He is a horrible gifter that uses racist language to make money. I don't give a crap how his racist family and friends feel. Fuck toilet paper USA.
hector@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 341d
I'm not going to pretend to be sad when a Nazi receives what he wanted to give.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
I believe that since September 10th he has been the only good kind of grifter.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 341d
What the fuck is this supposed to mean
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 341d
You've never heard the expression "the only good {whatever} is a dead {whatever}"?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 341d
Ahh I see... Thanks for the clarification. I had forgotten that Sept 10 was the day it happened and thought it was a reference to the time period preceding 9/11. So you can imagine my confusion lol
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
I had to look it up too just to make the joke!
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 28 pts · 342d
That's interesting
I already knew more about Kirk than I wanted to, but the more I know about him the more I agree with the shooter
I just fear for the shitstorm it's going to unleash
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 342d
They're keeping it in the news cycle because it's the only thing that stopped the Epstein files. We need to keep hammering Epstein while talking with Trump. Maybe they kill Hannity or RFK next.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 341d
Russian and Chinese Bots Fueling Online ‘Violence’ After Kirk Shooting
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 341d
That's giving them too much credit, I'm sure many of these are also Republicans pretending to be Democrats. After all, it's what Kirk would've done
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
There’s absolutely that, but we know the troll farms are operating for a fact.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 341d
The disciple of none other than Dean Browning
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
You are just spreading xenophobia against bots!
FluxUniversity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 338d
you can't be xeonophobic against something that isn't alive. thats like saying im spreading xenophobia against hammers. its just a tool, being used, by HUMANS
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 338d
then you are xenophobic against humans that use bots!
DicJacobus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 341d
Im a lifelong democrat who lives in the beautiful warm water port city in California
Russian and Chinese bots used to out themselves with weird cultural misunderstandings of western countries all the timehector@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 341d
It is so sad when Nazis get what they seek to give. Very unfair.
grainOfSalt@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 341d
Nazi bots. Botzis?
hector@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 341d
Nazbotz, nazbotzis.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 342d
of course they are all "verified", like if some bot owner can't afford $3/month
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 20 pts · 341d
The internet is on life support.
masta_chief@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d
More like puppeted by a necromancer
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 341d
Can a Russian bot be a lifelong democrat?
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
I would assume that the US understanding of corporate "speech" rights (per Citizens United) will at some point lead to a Supreme Court ruling that grants explicit personhood (including the right to political affiliation) to corporations and AI bots by extension.
pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 342d
As a lifelong human person, I enjoy a hearty meal of fresh data sets.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 342d
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 341d
As a lifelong Democrat, I didn't know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I've since spent several lunch breaks watching his debates (FULL videos) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me Show more
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 341d
SHOW MORE DAMMIT!
badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 341d
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 341d
Show more baby, show more!
someguy3@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 342d
"This is extremely dangerous to our democracy."
forrgott@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 342d
I have to vote that this is not a meme. Boo
hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 35 pts · 342d
I gotchu.
kautau@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 342d
6/10. Should have made it one of those really great POV memes where POV doesn’t make sense at all in that context like
forrgott@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 342d
Take your upvote and get out!
Although I must admit that is the logical meme format...
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 341d
As a lifelong chicken, I don't know what to make of Colonel Sanders. I've since spent several factory-farm feeding sessions, watching his cooking lessons (FULL live-in-person-show), and have come away with the impression that we, chicken-kind, got him all wrong. The reactions from my species — have really made me question my entire existence.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 341d
Even though it's true that the left has messaging problem, the right has an efficient propaganda machine well oiled by the monied interest.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 341d
There are still actual humans on xitter? Why?
bstix@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 341d
It's hard to believe that they can watch full videos in a lunch break.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 342d
Hey, just checking the bold -ltext is a Twitter search thing, right?
Hoimo@ani.social · 4 pts · 342d
Yes, it's highlighting the searched text in the results. The bolding isn't part of the original tweets.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 341d
Thanks. I see it everywhere I was just not sure.