One of the biggest stories out of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon Summit in Maui isn’t just about Qualcomm — it’s how Google is finally merging Android and ChromeOS to create a new operating system for computers. Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon revealed that it’s finally happening, and now, a Google exec has revealed when it’s happening, too.
It’s “something we’re super excited about for next year,” said Google’s Sameer Samat, head of Android Ecosystem, at the tail end of Qualcomm’s announcement keynote.
No, I'm not excited at all
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CubitOom@infosec.pub · 173 pts · 326d
I want Linux for Android devices, not Android for Linux devices.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 325d
The latter is called "Waydroid".
The first one is bring worked on, currently graphical acceleration works
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 101 pts · 326d
Something I'll never understand about Google is that they don't seem to understand that killing every project that isn't instantly super profitable also kills consumer confidence.
I wouldn't even consider using a new Google thing for the first few years of its life since I fully expect it will be chopped sooner or later. Case in point: Killed by Google
dmtalon@infosec.pub · 40 pts · 326d
Which in turn creates a self fulfilling prophecy that they created themselves.
And I also wonder, will it only allow app installs from the app store like they're supposed to be doing on Android for phones?
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 326d
Right? I would have bought in to Stadia if I had ANY faith in the company behind it.
Also, I thought chrome os could already run android apps?
daq@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 326d
In fairness, they did refund 100% of the people who "bought" it. I say that in quotes because Stadia came free with a game I purchased and they fully refunded the game when they killed stadia since it was only playable through stadia.
OmegaSunkey@ani.social · 2 pts · 326d
ChromeOS does run android apps, but to run them well you need 8gb of RAM because both VMs run -Android and Linux.- With this implementation Android apps would run natively, and thus only requiring more ram for Linux apps in the VM they plan to add.
cron@feddit.org · 2 pts · 326d
Chromebooks traditionally have a working linux VM, so this is likely not impacted by the change.
And btw, you can still download apps from any website as long as the app is signed by a registered developer.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 5 pts · 326d
Does it tho? I mean, I know it does for techies like us but I am not so sure about the gen pop.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 326d
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 325d
I'm still using Google Voice (since 2010!), but I never went full-in with it because I don't trust it will exist tomorrow (they've removed a couple features over the years), plus the last thing I want is my text messages going through them.
This is a good reminder that I need to love away from it.
xep@discuss.online · 53 pts · 326d
Why would I want Android on PC?
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 326d
My guess would be that it's intended to replace chrome os, which is already just android lite.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 326d
Masochism and self hate, perhaps?
Shadow@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 326d
So they can show you hyper targeted ads, obviously.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 326d
Maybe Android on PC won't have Recall spyware like Windows, but then again just run Linux
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 325d
Instead it has Google Services Spyware, and every app Spyware, and you're not permitted root/admin access to block such things, unlike Windows.
Recall is completely removeable - or do you think a finance enterprise Risk Management would permit operational data to leave the premises?
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 325d
Windows does not give you kernel level access. Its a black box of telemetry, same as google. Even Windows SSH was found to send user name and IP of server that you contact back to Windows HQ, thereby tracking ever users attempts to remote login to a server. That's bad telemetry waiting to be abused by the US government.
Your only choice is Linux now
antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 326d
Good luck Google. I'm already pissed that Microsoft is trying to spy on me on my computer - you think I'm gonna let you do that too now?
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 326d
So Linux, but not FOSS?
LoremIpsumGenerator@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 326d
Why the f would a sane person would install and lose admin/root privileges on his pc/laptop.
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 326d
I'll stick with Linux, thanks.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 325d
Android is Linux! ☝️🤓
::: spoiler /s I know what you meant, just being a goober. :::
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 325d
A goober, huh? A goofy goober, perhaps?
Revan343@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 325d
[insert GNU/Linux rant]
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 326d
Ohhhhhhh
THIS is why they want to block sideloading.....
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 325d
Oh that's why they want to block sideloading
I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 325d
No one asked for this.
xcjs@programming.dev · 16 pts · 326d
If they think I'm going to purchase a computer that will become unsupported between 2-7 years from now and refuse to install the software I want to install, they're insane.
cron@feddit.org · 1 pts · 326d
Chromebooks currently have a 10 year support duration, that's on par with windows and mac.
xcjs@programming.dev · 2 pts · 325d
I don't know if we're guaranteed to see the same level of support for Android based devices, and if Google decides they're not marketable enough, they could drop support as soon as before they even launch as they have with previous hardware initiatives.
RedC@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 325d
Imagine a world where they extend that new sideload rule to "android for pc". Then they get pc manufacturers to start pushing arm procs instead of normal pc procs. Then all new arm computers come standard with "android for pc", with a locked down bootloader. They become popular because of the tech illiterate who enjoy the fact their pc works the same as their phone. They take over the market with these android pc's.
Then we long for the days of windows, and preloaded linux on new computers becomes even rarer. Remind me in 5 years when im right
Rooster326@programming.dev · 4 pts · 325d
They won't need to "extend" it if it is there from day 0.
007ace@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 325d
Sounds like Macos 9 vs windows 95 all over again.
demizerone@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 326d
Pass
ByteMe@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 325d
They can't even do android for tablets
Steve@startrek.website · 8 pts · 326d
Not interested
db2@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 326d
https://blissos.org/
artyom@piefed.social · 14 pts · 326d
Would you like to explain?
Dagamant@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 326d
It’s an android-x86 based OS. Basically android for PC. There have been builds of android for X86 for a good while now but I can’t imagine using that as a daily driver.
picnic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 325d
Close to useless website. Menu doesnt work (transparency makes it useless at least on mobile) and there is nothing explaining blissos there. What is it? Where, how, when? How much?
besselj@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 326d
I want an android-based PC that can be locked down and de-googled like GrapheneOS
MITM0@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 325d
Nope fuck android. Linux for life. Hell one day we'll get BSDs too
LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 326d
I'd rather die
ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 326d
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 326d
That's interesting because they've tried to do this several times now and when they tried a few years ago no one found it exciting so it ended up dropped.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 326d
Oh cool... Something else no one asked for or wants.
J52@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 326d
, don't care, not buying it.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
yeah... i wonder how long pc mainline can stay x86 but I'm in zero fucking rush to find out.
Srootus@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 325d
I went through the hassle of getting Waydroid set up but i honestly dont see the point in having android on the desktop
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 326d
Having used DEX quite a bit over the years, they're going to have major software issues if they don't get developers to make their apps desktop friendly.
This could be good for a lot of casual users if they put the effort in to execute it well. It could also grow android tablet and phone sales. The idea of a single unified platform for desktop and mobile could be helpful for a lot of users. Especially if one device can do both.
daq@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 326d
Unpopular opinion, but I like this idea. Google's been promising to develop proper desktop mode for their phones for years. Like Samsung, Oneplus and some others did pretty well. I think this will finally let me plug my phone into a docking station for presentation or a quick email or some other basic task phones already do very well, but let me use mouse, keyboard and a 4k screen.
Right now this functionality is sort of implemented, but is realistically completely unusable.
picnic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 325d
Different thing. This is chromeos replacement, what you're talking about is just desktop mode for android a la dex
daq@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 325d
I understand, but there is no way this would be significantly different code base. Android that can run on hardware typically running chrome OS is basically already Android in desktop mode minus GSM.
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 326d
ew!!!! kill it with fire!
OmegaSunkey@ani.social · 2 pts · 326d
i already ditched chromeos because its a free heater if you run anything more professional than webapps on an poor i3 8th gen
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 325d
Lol chromeos sucks
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 325d
Sounds interesting
I think we could really use some more diversity in the desktop space. If Lineage ever gets ported to a laptop I would be down to daily drive it.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
Meanwhile intel is trying to woo apple - apparently to produce their parts in Intel fabs?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-seeking-investment-apple-part-200651919.html
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unrelated query: has anyone here actually run a snapdragon desktop setup?