It's honestly a fascinating read. It's fundamentally a PR piece, but the details (especially if you read between the lines) provide some interesting insights about how American oligarchs want to be viewed.
Difficult to make any educated speculation without direct access to the event (this is a PR piece first and foremost), but I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.
Nearly three-quarters of CEOs surveyed said they were confident that U.S. free-market capitalism can compete with China’s socialist market economy in the global AI contest, and they expressed a near-unanimous discontent as the Trump administration has veered away from the capitalist system.
This is a particularly funny quote. America is not a free market model and China does not have a socialist market economy. Both are state capitalist countries with China being more centralised via the CCP and America allowing a measure decentralisation for oligarchs.
I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.
There is precedent for that. The industrialists of the Famous Country in the 1930s had the same qualms about the Famous Leader and his Famous Party. But they liked the promise to rein in the Socialists and trade unions.
For the industrialists? It didnt end at all. They kept all their profits from the war and holocaust machinery and then went on their merry way to fund their next venture.
We allowed greed above all to be the fundamental basis of our economic system. Obviously, the most immoral of all criminals, sociopaths, and psychopaths prospered.
Now, most of our business and political leadership lack any virtues whatsoever. Everything and everyone can be sacrificed, as long as it's for profit.
Ok I can see a comparison to the cultural revolution, especially with the attacks against academics. But the landlord president is most certainly not a maoist
He's definitely not ideologically a maoist (partially because he has no ideology beyond power and narcissism), but personality wise he shares a tendency to reject expertise, believe he knows best, and cause disasters out of stubborn narcissistic stupidity.
Although his death count is still 1/50 of that of Mao.
Maoism is more than just working class attacks on academia and culture. In fact that element of Maoism is borrowed from folks like Mussolini. Maoism also involves the regime being ostensibly socialist, includes long term planning, and largely revolves around rapid industrialization.
Maoism was a top-down industrial revolution at gunpoint, carried out by someone who had no idea what industrialization actually was. So the authoritarianism, the brutality and the ignorance are all characteristics shared by Trump. The only difference is the lip service to socialism.
Socialism 2. Long term planning 3. Rapid industrialization
Maoism is a way to move towards socialism, it is not however socialism it just contains aspects of it like many forms of government. The us also has socialist policies and thus socialist aspects.
The lie the admin is pushing is long term planning, they aren't doing it but they're certainly lying about doing it.
"Bring back the factories" is a literal cry for rapid industrialization.
So I ask again how are they effectively different. They may sell it to you in a different package but the contents are essentially the same and I'd argue the result would be largely the same.
You're absolutely right. Any country that makes long term plans, seeks to develop it's industrial base, and "has socialist aspects" (which I assume mean, "the government does stuff") is Maoist.
Emperor Meiji was a Maoist.
This is a very reasonable and coherent worldview. You've definitely read plenty of theory to know that one of the core tenets of Maoism is "making plans."
Bro literally gutted the farmers and used their tax money to bail out the country that replaced the exports of said farmers. That's not very Mao of him.
Best comparison to that is still the million Covid deaths, at least half of which were completely unnecessary had Trump not intentionally sabotaged the US's pandemic preparedness and then sabotages the Covid response with misinformation and withholding support.
But Trump did it out of malice, whereas I believe Mao at least thought he was doing something good. But both are narcissistic idiots.
But we'll see if Trump manages to cause a real famine. It could still happen.
Trump is a narcissist he legit thinks he's doing good so that can't be it.
He already is causing a famine. Beef takes two years and of we can't get enough domestically we go without for 2 years or we import it at exceedingly high markup because everyone knows we have no choice.
Tycoons looked at a dude with a terrible business record who's first term in office was a dumpster fire, and was clearly suffering from dementia on top of not being very bright to begin with and said "Yes, we want more of that"
I think that only applies to a couple of them like Peter Thiel and Musk. For others, it's been a neutral or negative experience and bound to get worse.
If they make them into communists then they can beat them and continue doing capitalism instead of admitting that conservative ideologies are all backwards nonsense that have never been proven to work outside of interactions made up by people who are consistently wrong about everything.
The problem being that for many people (including my own ex, apparently, both to my and my kid's utter shock), authoritarianism and communism/socialism are synonyms. For those folks who got fed the propaganda and had no real reason or desire to question it, that's the characterization that works the best to communicate the threat.
For reference, an actual conversation:
"Man, Trump is going to make the U.S. a full-blown communist country"
[Me and Kid: Mouth agape, silence for about 5 seconds]: "I'm sorry, WHAT?"
"Yeah, you know, communist, like Russia was with Stalin".
"...do you not know what communism is?"
"Yes, it's when there's an authoritarian dictator."
"No, that's authoritarianism."
"Oh. I've never heard of that before."
Yeah we know a large amount of the population has a middle school level intelligence and an elementary school ability to read. Doesn't mean we got a cater to morons instead of publicly educating them.
True, but part of this is impact and speed. As an uneducated person, you can immediately grasp what's intended here and why it's bad. Takes longer, and probably time you guys in the U.S.* simply don't have, to better educate folks to come to the same ultimate conclusion in large enough numbers.
Your education systems are widely gutted, general level of political knowledge is poor, and you have folks speed running to old school authoritarianism with the support of a lot of dumb people - and those folks are very close to the finish line. You. Don't. Have. Time. I'm not saying I'm a fan but there's a practical component to this.
*Noted that this is an assumption and you may not live in the U.S.
It was a very weird conversation. Most of the time I didn't think about the education gap between myself and my ex, but that was one of (to be fair) maybe three times it was illustrated.
Credit where credit's due, she's pretty clever in most other respects, just not this stuff as much. And it's not like I'm an expert myself, I just know the difference here 'cause school.
School didn’t teach me much of anything in regards to history, and my post-secondary education was in regards to buildings, not politics. I’ve never really understood the “education” argument when so many educated people I know are honestly pretty dumb save for the highly specific thing they’re trained in, and even then you can tell they were good enough at school to pass and that that doesn’t necessarily mean they can do their jobs well. School, in my experience, can even be quite difficult if you have a bad professor and go outside the bounds(I had mostly good ones and two that pretty much no student, or even some other professors, has ever truly liked but who unfortunately ran the program).
For me it’s about curiosity, mostly. I have plenty of gaps in my own knowledge but I try to actually learn stuff as I go.
These are very fair criticisms, and curiosity is key. It's more about the opportunities to follow your curiosity/get exposed to ideas that may at first be outside of your interests. Formal education can facilitiate that well, but you're right that it's not the only way or the best way for everyone. Learning never stops.
Aight, so Imma put on my grad school hat for a minute. 'Maoism' as a term, isn't stuff Mao did, or things that happened in China in that period. Heck, it doesn't really even come from Asia.
Maoism, or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, is an ideology which proclaims itself to be the next stage in the development of Marxism, and was codified, largely, by the Communist Party of Peru (Sendero Luminoso), and the network of parties that it a part of, the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement.
It's called Maoism because the PCP and the RIM were grappling with the legacy of the Chinese revolution, the Sino-Soviet Split, the Reform and Opening Up under Deng Xiaoping, etc.
Think of it like this, Jesus Christ was not a Christian. Jesus was a Jew, responding to the context of first century Roman Judea. Other people came along later, had a bunch of ideas about what the legacy of Jesus was, and what came out of that was Christianity. But if you hopped in your time machine and asked Jesus if he was a Christian, he would not have known what that meant.
Similarly, Marx was not a Marxist, Lenin was not a Leninist, etc. Other people had a lot of ideas about the legacies of these people, their ideas, and the revolutionary movements that they were apart of, and what develops are these ideological lineages.
So Maoism asserts that, for example, the experiences of the Mass Line, and Cultural Revolution (or at least the idea that class struggle persists under Socialism) from the Chinese experience, are universal lessons, applicable anywhere. Rather than being specific to China.
There's more to it than that. But I really want to make it clear that Maoism is more than just "and then we kill all the sparrows and our grain harvest will collapse!"
So no, not close enough. We don't get to throw around words, if we claim to care about opposing fascism. Don't make me pull out the Sartre Quote.
We can, and should criticize the Trump admin, but we can do it in a way that doesn't boil down to "what are we, a bunch of Asians?!"
I'm fucking tired of these insider anonymites wringing their hands and nothing changing, just shut the fuck up or be fully transparent with this. Take a meaningful stand and stop ass-covering so you can say I was against this the whole time when everything collapses.
That's just it they publicly suck his dick and leak stuff about being against him so they cover their asses. So they can say I didn't support him. Couldn't these assholes say we are moving their headquarters out of America. But they won't cause America is the biggest market and line must go up.
It's a real thing, CEOs can get really anxious in their stalls at night, sometimes they will panic and cause the other CEOs to start panicking too. Someone has to go rub their legs and brush them out to calm them or they can hurt themselves.
No, at the end of the day, we can't cede America to the Fascists. The things America stands for are generally lies, but they don't have to be. We at least have to aspire to higher values, or we'll have no direction when this whole thing comes crashing down
I'm not sure Mao was anti-intellectual... The Great Leap Forward was meant to industrialize China in a short period of time, and to do that, he thought he needed to force a bunch of intellectuals to start farming and shit.
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nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 74 pts · 347d
The professional slumlord is in no way Maoist, hes kinda the antithesis of it.
Also they did the meme . . . again
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 347d
Source article:
https://fortune.com/2025/09/21/behind-closed-doors-ceos-say-trump-is-bad-for-business-and-its-time-to-make-america-into-america-again/
It's honestly a fascinating read. It's fundamentally a PR piece, but the details (especially if you read between the lines) provide some interesting insights about how American oligarchs want to be viewed.
Difficult to make any educated speculation without direct access to the event (this is a PR piece first and foremost), but I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.
This is a particularly funny quote. America is not a free market model and China does not have a socialist market economy. Both are state capitalist countries with China being more centralised via the CCP and America allowing a measure decentralisation for oligarchs.
manxu@piefed.social · 17 pts · 347d
There is precedent for that. The industrialists of the Famous Country in the 1930s had the same qualms about the Famous Leader and his Famous Party. But they liked the promise to rein in the Socialists and trade unions.
Spoiler: it didn't end well for them
Auntievenim@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 347d
For the industrialists? It didnt end at all. They kept all their profits from the war and holocaust machinery and then went on their merry way to fund their next venture.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 347d
Depending on the metric they may be right. The free market model may be able to outcompete in producing useless garbage.
Outside of AI? I think there's hardly any contest remaining.
Endmaker@ani.social · 37 pts · 347d
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 346d
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
Every corporation should fear their workers
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 347d
The solution is of course to suck his dick even harder.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 347d
We allowed greed above all to be the fundamental basis of our economic system. Obviously, the most immoral of all criminals, sociopaths, and psychopaths prospered.
Now, most of our business and political leadership lack any virtues whatsoever. Everything and everyone can be sacrificed, as long as it's for profit.
Asafum@feddit.nl · 13 pts · 347d
US "preacher":
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 347d
Ok I can see a comparison to the cultural revolution, especially with the attacks against academics. But the landlord president is most certainly not a maoist
mcv@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 346d
He's definitely not ideologically a maoist (partially because he has no ideology beyond power and narcissism), but personality wise he shares a tendency to reject expertise, believe he knows best, and cause disasters out of stubborn narcissistic stupidity.
Although his death count is still 1/50 of that of Mao.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
I'm not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 347d
Maoism is more than just working class attacks on academia and culture. In fact that element of Maoism is borrowed from folks like Mussolini. Maoism also involves the regime being ostensibly socialist, includes long term planning, and largely revolves around rapid industrialization.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 346d
Maoism was a top-down industrial revolution at gunpoint, carried out by someone who had no idea what industrialization actually was. So the authoritarianism, the brutality and the ignorance are all characteristics shared by Trump. The only difference is the lip service to socialism.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 347d
So.
Socialism 2. Long term planning 3. Rapid industrialization
Maoism is a way to move towards socialism, it is not however socialism it just contains aspects of it like many forms of government. The us also has socialist policies and thus socialist aspects.
The lie the admin is pushing is long term planning, they aren't doing it but they're certainly lying about doing it.
"Bring back the factories" is a literal cry for rapid industrialization.
So I ask again how are they effectively different. They may sell it to you in a different package but the contents are essentially the same and I'd argue the result would be largely the same.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 346d
You're absolutely right. Any country that makes long term plans, seeks to develop it's industrial base, and "has socialist aspects" (which I assume mean, "the government does stuff") is Maoist.
Emperor Meiji was a Maoist.
This is a very reasonable and coherent worldview. You've definitely read plenty of theory to know that one of the core tenets of Maoism is "making plans."
Madison420@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
I didn't define it boss, read the comment then get rude of that's your prerogative but at the very least keep up with the conversation.
Objection@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 346d
You wrote down words, which is something Mao did too. Are you doing Maoism?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
So you're going to be rude instead of making a point?
I didn't define anything dipshit the other person did and I responded.
I asked how they were different not the same, you should read the comment chain rather then be rude for no fucking reason.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 347d
Bro literally gutted the farmers and used their tax money to bail out the country that replaced the exports of said farmers. That's not very Mao of him.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 346d
You might want to look again at Mao's catastrophic agricultural policies that led to mass famine.
mcv@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 346d
Best comparison to that is still the million Covid deaths, at least half of which were completely unnecessary had Trump not intentionally sabotaged the US's pandemic preparedness and then sabotages the Covid response with misinformation and withholding support.
But Trump did it out of malice, whereas I believe Mao at least thought he was doing something good. But both are narcissistic idiots.
But we'll see if Trump manages to cause a real famine. It could still happen.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 346d
Trump is a narcissist he legit thinks he's doing good so that can't be it.
He already is causing a famine. Beef takes two years and of we can't get enough domestically we go without for 2 years or we import it at exceedingly high markup because everyone knows we have no choice.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
I didn't ask for how consistent he was I asked how effectively is it different.
As an aside you should read more on mao if you think he didn't willfully fuck his people over too.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 346d
Ah ok, you're just trolling. Lol
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 346d
Sparrows
Madison420@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 346d
How so? It sounds more like you're deflecting.
F_State@midwest.social · 27 pts · 347d
Tycoons looked at a dude with a terrible business record who's first term in office was a dumpster fire, and was clearly suffering from dementia on top of not being very bright to begin with and said "Yes, we want more of that"
Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org · 10 pts · 347d
F_State@midwest.social · 1 pts · 347d
That was the hope at least
F_State@midwest.social · 1 pts · 345d
I think that only applies to a couple of them like Peter Thiel and Musk. For others, it's been a neutral or negative experience and bound to get worse.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 346d
They just were supporting both sides without paying attention.
Xanthobilly@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 347d
What a bunch of greed oriented pussies! They got us into this mess and skulk away instead of helping to fix it.
wheelsbot7@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 346d
They're trying EVERYTHING to avoid Nazi comparisons.
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 346d
"Maoist"? lol
So, is Trump gonna order executions of landlords now?
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 346d
Media really trying to get that red scare stuff to get people to dislike Trump. You got this and then there's Harris calling Trump a commie.
Soup@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d
If they make them into communists then they can beat them and continue doing capitalism instead of admitting that conservative ideologies are all backwards nonsense that have never been proven to work outside of interactions made up by people who are consistently wrong about everything.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 346d
The problem being that for many people (including my own ex, apparently, both to my and my kid's utter shock), authoritarianism and communism/socialism are synonyms. For those folks who got fed the propaganda and had no real reason or desire to question it, that's the characterization that works the best to communicate the threat.
For reference, an actual conversation:
"Man, Trump is going to make the U.S. a full-blown communist country"
[Me and Kid: Mouth agape, silence for about 5 seconds]: "I'm sorry, WHAT?"
"Yeah, you know, communist, like Russia was with Stalin".
"...do you not know what communism is?"
"Yes, it's when there's an authoritarian dictator."
"No, that's authoritarianism."
"Oh. I've never heard of that before."
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 346d
Yeah we know a large amount of the population has a middle school level intelligence and an elementary school ability to read. Doesn't mean we got a cater to morons instead of publicly educating them.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 346d
If smart people are so smart, why aren't they in charge?
Checkmate nerds!
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 346d
True, but part of this is impact and speed. As an uneducated person, you can immediately grasp what's intended here and why it's bad. Takes longer, and probably time you guys in the U.S.* simply don't have, to better educate folks to come to the same ultimate conclusion in large enough numbers.
Your education systems are widely gutted, general level of political knowledge is poor, and you have folks speed running to old school authoritarianism with the support of a lot of dumb people - and those folks are very close to the finish line. You. Don't. Have. Time. I'm not saying I'm a fan but there's a practical component to this.
*Noted that this is an assumption and you may not live in the U.S.
Soup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
Wow…that’s just wild.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d
It was a very weird conversation. Most of the time I didn't think about the education gap between myself and my ex, but that was one of (to be fair) maybe three times it was illustrated.
Credit where credit's due, she's pretty clever in most other respects, just not this stuff as much. And it's not like I'm an expert myself, I just know the difference here 'cause school.
Soup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
School didn’t teach me much of anything in regards to history, and my post-secondary education was in regards to buildings, not politics. I’ve never really understood the “education” argument when so many educated people I know are honestly pretty dumb save for the highly specific thing they’re trained in, and even then you can tell they were good enough at school to pass and that that doesn’t necessarily mean they can do their jobs well. School, in my experience, can even be quite difficult if you have a bad professor and go outside the bounds(I had mostly good ones and two that pretty much no student, or even some other professors, has ever truly liked but who unfortunately ran the program).
For me it’s about curiosity, mostly. I have plenty of gaps in my own knowledge but I try to actually learn stuff as I go.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 345d
These are very fair criticisms, and curiosity is key. It's more about the opportunities to follow your curiosity/get exposed to ideas that may at first be outside of your interests. Formal education can facilitiate that well, but you're right that it's not the only way or the best way for everyone. Learning never stops.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 346d
Yeah, I'm writing a thesis right now about actual Maoism, and like... Really? That's the phrase they chose?
Words used to fucking mean something!
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 346d
Well his policies are already responsible for hundreds of thousands of death, so close enough?
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 346d
Aight, so Imma put on my grad school hat for a minute. 'Maoism' as a term, isn't stuff Mao did, or things that happened in China in that period. Heck, it doesn't really even come from Asia.
Maoism, or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, is an ideology which proclaims itself to be the next stage in the development of Marxism, and was codified, largely, by the Communist Party of Peru (Sendero Luminoso), and the network of parties that it a part of, the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement.
It's called Maoism because the PCP and the RIM were grappling with the legacy of the Chinese revolution, the Sino-Soviet Split, the Reform and Opening Up under Deng Xiaoping, etc.
Think of it like this, Jesus Christ was not a Christian. Jesus was a Jew, responding to the context of first century Roman Judea. Other people came along later, had a bunch of ideas about what the legacy of Jesus was, and what came out of that was Christianity. But if you hopped in your time machine and asked Jesus if he was a Christian, he would not have known what that meant.
Similarly, Marx was not a Marxist, Lenin was not a Leninist, etc. Other people had a lot of ideas about the legacies of these people, their ideas, and the revolutionary movements that they were apart of, and what develops are these ideological lineages.
So Maoism asserts that, for example, the experiences of the Mass Line, and Cultural Revolution (or at least the idea that class struggle persists under Socialism) from the Chinese experience, are universal lessons, applicable anywhere. Rather than being specific to China.
There's more to it than that. But I really want to make it clear that Maoism is more than just "and then we kill all the sparrows and our grain harvest will collapse!"
So no, not close enough. We don't get to throw around words, if we claim to care about opposing fascism. Don't make me pull out the Sartre Quote.
We can, and should criticize the Trump admin, but we can do it in a way that doesn't boil down to "what are we, a bunch of Asians?!"
Tetragrade@leminal.space · -4 pts · 345d
Yes I'm sure the business major guy was conscious of the finer points of 1950s Peruvian Marxist-Leninist factionalism when they called him that.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 345d
He isn't conscious of that because that guy is a fucking dipshit who should think before he opens his mouth.
If we care about opposing fascism, the we ought to use words responsibly.
CriticalMiss@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
If that happens he has my utmost support. I would buy 5 overpriced maga huts in a heartbeat
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
I know one he could start with.
Binturong@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 346d
I'm fucking tired of these insider anonymites wringing their hands and nothing changing, just shut the fuck up or be fully transparent with this. Take a meaningful stand and stop ass-covering so you can say I was against this the whole time when everything collapses.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 345d
That's just it they publicly suck his dick and leak stuff about being against him so they cover their asses. So they can say I didn't support him. Couldn't these assholes say we are moving their headquarters out of America. But they won't cause America is the biggest market and line must go up.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 346d
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 347d
How are Western oligarchs so good at seeing something bad happen and concluding this is not us, this is what people from there do!
No its you. Learn to introspect..
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 347d
Americans: Americanly do something american
Famed Yale Business Guru: What are we, a bunch of Chinamen?
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 346d
They paid for it. Do they have buyers remorse already? It'd be a good thing if the resulting shitstorm consumes them all.
Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 346d
If the top 25 CEOs came out and said "We are going on general strike until Trump is impeached"
This is probably 8 to 15 million American households.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 346d
No, its 25 americans.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 347d
CEO Whisperer sounds like the tagline of someone in !linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works
BanMe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 346d
It's a real thing, CEOs can get really anxious in their stalls at night, sometimes they will panic and cause the other CEOs to start panicking too. Someone has to go rub their legs and brush them out to calm them or they can hurt themselves.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 347d
any butthole would hurt too with that much bending over
it_depends_man@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 347d
Lots of skyscrapers with windows in America... would be a shame if someone fell out of one.
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 347d
I initially read this as 'Moist' leadership, which sounds worse.
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
They fed this thing...
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 346d
Mao Sow Dumb.
WindyRebel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
American here. You know how we have Florida Man? Maybe we, and the world, need to start calling these idiots America Man.
Oh, fascism rounding up people with different opinions? Must be America Man.
CEOs don’t like the leadership but continue to support them to spite their face? Must be America Man.
Mourning a YouTuber’s death who did not like LGBTQ and then came together and crashed an LGBTQ app? Must be American Man again.
theneverfox@pawb.social · 10 pts · 347d
No, at the end of the day, we can't cede America to the Fascists. The things America stands for are generally lies, but they don't have to be. We at least have to aspire to higher values, or we'll have no direction when this whole thing comes crashing down
ronigami@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 346d
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 347d
I mean, he is going hard on the way China runs its businesses.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 347d
As if anything he does makes any sense....
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 347d
"Moaist"... I mean he is autocratic and anti-intellectual, but... there seem to be a few other aspects missing in this connection.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 346d
I'm not sure Mao was anti-intellectual... The Great Leap Forward was meant to industrialize China in a short period of time, and to do that, he thought he needed to force a bunch of intellectuals to start farming and shit.
Pol Pot was 100% anti-intellectual
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 346d
Yeah, for one thing, Mao was literate.