Neither capitalism nor authoritarianism are necessary to breed innovation. Lots of non-authoritarian places have great science, too.
Also, great science does not suggest a country is a good place to live. There's lots of great science being done in the US, too, despite its horribleness.
I thought I knew which study this was talking about, and I was going to say "Yes, it's to help with situations where surgical intervention is needed to put the bone back together" but I went and found the article I read and that one was a team of American and Korean scientists, so I actually don't know about the Chinese one. I assume it's the same idea, that it's for use in surgical situations.
The one I thought it was talking about was this one, which is a cool idea but still has some kinks to work out.
I can't read the specific study they're citing here, but from reporting on it this sounds like it's being just a little bit overhyped - a quick setting glue is critically important, but the situations in which you'd use a metal plate for osteoimmobilization are with extreme displaced fractures and something that could even be accessed with a 3 minute surgery (and evidently yes, this glue does require surgery) would not merit a metal plate in any case.
The actual development sounds like it's a very fast setting bone-bonding bio-absorbing surgical glue that doesn't require extensive cleaning of the bonding site. That does sound like an extremely useful development, but it's also not a novel product by any means. This seems like another entry in the trend of pro-china hyped science reporting that absolutely removes all the interesting details in their quest to push a narrative (which uh... no hang on, that's all modern science reporting)
The han chinese are welcome to stop committing genocide, cultural and otherwise, any time they like. Though I acknowledge it's their government and not all of them as a whole. Strictly speaking.
And if it isn't racist to criticize Americans for doing similar things, it isn't racist to point out when China does it.
It's literally what they're doing. They even have a name for it that they use proudly. Called the one China policy. It's whole goal is to eradicate divergent culture and groups. At home and aspirationally, imperialisticly in the country of Taiwan. Do better.
It's cultural appropriation at worst. It's absurd to call that racism and belittles what racism actually is. But racism is always the first go-to of those who cannot defend their views.
It would be like calling anyone who caricatures or uses the trope of the loud mouth, ignorant, 6 gun-toating, ten-gallon hat, wearing American as racist. Is it confrontational or antagonistic? Absolutely. Racist? Not even. Do you want to know what is actually racist? White washing or apologizing for white supremacy or han supremacy. I support the KKK and the CCP equally. Not at all.
You're doing worse than excusing racist speech. Similar to what Israel is doing to redefine anti-Zionism to antisemitism. Muddying the waters and making the terms meaningless. Any time, no matter the civility of the critique regarding China. Racism and sinophobia gets shouted as a blanket get out of jail free card. And as someone who has an appreciation for China's deep cultural diversity and heritage. A love of the distinctly Chinese Hong Kong cinema and many of it's actors, producers and directors. 9 times out of 10 the accusation is often outright DARVO if not hyperbolic.
I agree their post was antagonistic and designed to provoke. But it was no more racist than the meme it was posted under.
And? I'm an anarchist. I disagree with most of the stuff our government does. Them recognizing a policy of a similar capitalist and fascistic group doesn't justify it to me. The American and Chinese people both need to rise up against the capitalist that seek to oppress and rule over us. Don't be a hypocrite.
Well, I mean, if you ignore all the people whose loved ones are being withheld and imprisoned. Sure, there's no evidence. But you would have to be a really dishonest hypocritical person to do that. Especially since the Chinese government themselves doesn't deny that they are.
Not even exactly that - r&d basically always has huge returns for decades or even centuries.
It's just investing, not prioritising short-term profits ... and not having a system where the economy collapses if profits fall, not even necessarily into negative territories. They just need/want infrastructure, so they build it to have it (and profit from externalities of having said infrastructure, not building in some sort of direct profitability features). They want clan air, they pass laws & directives.
It's not black or white, but def the shade contrasts with western world.
I don't like the authoritarianism, but I kinda like China's approach to reorient the economy depending on the needs. Too much economic growth at the expense of public investment, and they will reorient towards more public services and vice versa. This sounds similar to Keynesian economics and I am an old school proponent of Keynesianism.
Tbf, America is busy arguing about the Superbowl halftime show... and how big the wh ballroom will be... and whether the UN escalator tried to assassinate the president...
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Droggelbecher@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 338d
Neither capitalism nor authoritarianism are necessary to breed innovation. Lots of non-authoritarian places have great science, too.
Also, great science does not suggest a country is a good place to live. There's lots of great science being done in the US, too, despite its horribleness.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 337d
I think they inverted the wheel without MS Teams, or kings.
(Maybe even without a giant black monolith, but I'm not 100% sure about that.)
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 338d
How do they get the glue into the fracture, though. Wouldn't that require surgery?
ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 338d
I thought I knew which study this was talking about, and I was going to say "Yes, it's to help with situations where surgical intervention is needed to put the bone back together" but I went and found the article I read and that one was a team of American and Korean scientists, so I actually don't know about the Chinese one. I assume it's the same idea, that it's for use in surgical situations.
The one I thought it was talking about was this one, which is a cool idea but still has some kinks to work out.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 338d
I can't read the specific study they're citing here, but from reporting on it this sounds like it's being just a little bit overhyped - a quick setting glue is critically important, but the situations in which you'd use a metal plate for osteoimmobilization are with extreme displaced fractures and something that could even be accessed with a 3 minute surgery (and evidently yes, this glue does require surgery) would not merit a metal plate in any case.
The actual development sounds like it's a very fast setting bone-bonding bio-absorbing surgical glue that doesn't require extensive cleaning of the bonding site. That does sound like an extremely useful development, but it's also not a novel product by any means. This seems like another entry in the trend of pro-china hyped science reporting that absolutely removes all the interesting details in their quest to push a narrative (which uh... no hang on, that's all modern science reporting)
teletext@reddthat.com · 26 pts · 338d
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 338d
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · -1 pts · 338d
This may be the most racist thing I've seen this week. Holy shit
Eldritch@piefed.world · 8 pts · 338d
The han chinese are welcome to stop committing genocide, cultural and otherwise, any time they like. Though I acknowledge it's their government and not all of them as a whole. Strictly speaking.
And if it isn't racist to criticize Americans for doing similar things, it isn't racist to point out when China does it.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 0 pts · 338d
That's not at all what they're doing though.
It's entirely a racist trope to do the Chinese Proverb part.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 9 pts · 338d
It's literally what they're doing. They even have a name for it that they use proudly. Called the one China policy. It's whole goal is to eradicate divergent culture and groups. At home and aspirationally, imperialisticly in the country of Taiwan. Do better.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 338d
No the user was trying to make it a Chinese proverb about breaking people like eggs. That's the extremely racist part.
Which then has people going well acksually it's fine to say that because it makes China look bad.
I'm not the one excusing racist speach
Eldritch@piefed.world · -3 pts · 338d
It's cultural appropriation at worst. It's absurd to call that racism and belittles what racism actually is. But racism is always the first go-to of those who cannot defend their views.
It would be like calling anyone who caricatures or uses the trope of the loud mouth, ignorant, 6 gun-toating, ten-gallon hat, wearing American as racist. Is it confrontational or antagonistic? Absolutely. Racist? Not even. Do you want to know what is actually racist? White washing or apologizing for white supremacy or han supremacy. I support the KKK and the CCP equally. Not at all.
You're doing worse than excusing racist speech. Similar to what Israel is doing to redefine anti-Zionism to antisemitism. Muddying the waters and making the terms meaningless. Any time, no matter the civility of the critique regarding China. Racism and sinophobia gets shouted as a blanket get out of jail free card. And as someone who has an appreciation for China's deep cultural diversity and heritage. A love of the distinctly Chinese Hong Kong cinema and many of it's actors, producers and directors. 9 times out of 10 the accusation is often outright DARVO if not hyperbolic.
I agree their post was antagonistic and designed to provoke. But it was no more racist than the meme it was posted under.
anticolonialist@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 338d
You mean the one China policy that the department of State also recognizes?
Eldritch@piefed.world · 2 pts · 338d
And? I'm an anarchist. I disagree with most of the stuff our government does. Them recognizing a policy of a similar capitalist and fascistic group doesn't justify it to me. The American and Chinese people both need to rise up against the capitalist that seek to oppress and rule over us. Don't be a hypocrite.
anticolonialist@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 338d
Except there's no proof other than us sinophobic propaganda
Eldritch@piefed.world · 5 pts · 338d
Well, I mean, if you ignore all the people whose loved ones are being withheld and imprisoned. Sure, there's no evidence. But you would have to be a really dishonest hypocritical person to do that. Especially since the Chinese government themselves doesn't deny that they are.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 338d
Iām back in the us for the first time in 6 years.
I was just asked to leave by a machine after buying a $4 bottle of water in the airport.
What the hell?
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 12 pts · 338d
Things have not been going well.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 338d
The vending machine asked you to leave it was there a separate machine just to ask for the leaving?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 338d
And what happens if you don't leave? The machine executes you on the spot?
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 338d
'pick up the can'
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d
Why not both?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 338d
I could be wrong, but China now surpassed US in terms of R&D spending. That explains a lot.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 15 pts · 338d
It's embarrassing how much the usa is just dropping everything that got them ahead.
We're spending more on how to get schools to be more like prisons than how to improve people's lives
anticolonialist@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 338d
And it's being done without regard for maximizing profit
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 337d
Not even exactly that - r&d basically always has huge returns for decades or even centuries.
It's just investing, not prioritising short-term profits ... and not having a system where the economy collapses if profits fall, not even necessarily into negative territories. They just need/want infrastructure, so they build it to have it (and profit from externalities of having said infrastructure, not building in some sort of direct profitability features). They want clan air, they pass laws & directives.
It's not black or white, but def the shade contrasts with western world.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 338d
I don't like the authoritarianism, but I kinda like China's approach to reorient the economy depending on the needs. Too much economic growth at the expense of public investment, and they will reorient towards more public services and vice versa. This sounds similar to Keynesian economics and I am an old school proponent of Keynesianism.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 337d
China is full of engineers, US is full of lawyers.
Evolith@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 337d
And MBAs to give the lawyers work while the "consumer" population foots the bill
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 337d
But 4 is bigger and better than 3, so that invention must be better.
anticolonialist@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 337d
Same here, Americans are not that smart
ToaLanjiao@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 338d
Tbf, America is busy arguing about the Superbowl halftime show... and how big the wh ballroom will be... and whether the UN escalator tried to assassinate the president...
anticolonialist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 338d
When you can't read that you are in a communist space
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 338d
of course it's tankie, its showing how bad capitalism is š
Darnton@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 338d
Seems to be praising the state capitalist country of China as well, so seems mainly to be a confused space.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · -2 pts · 338d
Please enlighten us