While I absolutely don't agree with atzanteol, this statement is also utterly ridiculous. You own both marijuana and oregano with the intention of consumption. One of them is addictive, can cause psychosis, and can destroy lives.
All drugs should be decriminalized. So should weed. Maybe it even should be legal. But let's try to not repeat the same mistakes we did with alcohol. Nowadays I think most people would agree that alcohol can be consumed in moderation, but its overall effect on public health is devastating and alcoholism is a real problem that affects way too many people, also people you wouldn't think of. Science revised its guidelines of claiming a little drink a day is fine or even healthy to the best choice is no drink at all.
Its dangers were downplayed for so, so long. And now that we are legalizing weed I see the exact same sentiments about it that alcohol used to have. Marijuana is not an innocent, harmless substance. It can easily be abused and cause damage to individual lives, families, and friends.
I am making the argument for both, that is exactly the point I am making. I see too many people demonising alcohol and calling marijuana not dangerous in the same sentence, comparing it to oregano. Both substances are dangerous. And of course marijuana is addictive, what are you talking about? You can absolutely become both physically and mentally addicted to it. You can develop a tolerance, and you can trigger psychosis in predisposed younger people. I've seen all three cases in university and it wasn't pretty.
Again, I am not advocating for the criminalisation of possession or consumption. I am only advocating for not downplaying that mj is a drug. Right now, the narrative parallels that "a glass of wine or two won't hurt", "let's have a beer with friends", "let's get the champagne to celebrate", "alcohol is fine at social events" that we used to hear some decades ago about alcohol. It didn't end well. Why are we doing this again with weed now?
I 100% agree with everything you said. I am very much pro legalisation of weed and decriminalization of all drugs. Unless you are cooking up tons and tons of fentanyl you shouldn't be in jail.
To me, education and awareness includes not equating marijuana and oregano.
Which will be a year with time served. Down to 6 months before work release. 6 months which will be served in a minimum security celebrity resort rehabilitation farm.
Feels like I've wasted all this time not doing drugs, exploiting models and forcing people to rape eachother. I've been such a sucker...
So anyway, anybody here want to party? I have already ordered oil and bulls for 50 people.
Keep in mind that 1) he gets time served from the time he spent in jail, 2) if he's a good boy he'll do 85% of his time, 3) he could get into the RDAP program and get a year off. Not a bad deal.
Ugh there’s nothing to do so those guys just think about getting high all the time and stay up till 4 am getting high in prison. They practically condone it. Hopping everyone up on pills. You get extra ice cream if you take pills.
72 Comments
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 215 pts · 312d
There's a lot of people currently in jail for longer just because they possessed the leaves of a plant.
chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 312d
3abas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 312d
Flower*
But yes, we shouldn't be celebrating a monster like Diddy getting a slap on the wrist of just over 4 years.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 312d
nah I bet they're plenty of people in there for possession of the leaves no buds
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -113 pts · 312d
I love hyper-reductionism.
"There are people in jail for murder just for moving a metal lever."
three@lemmy.zip · 64 pts · 312d
True, murder and marijuana possession are equal crimes and can be compared.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol · -3 pts · 312d
They need to be equal to be compared?
chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 312d
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol · 4 pts · 312d
I don't
three@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 312d
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol · 3 pts · 312d
I don't think that's what they were doing at all.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 312d
What moron thought I was comparing them?
three@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 312d
Stick a fork in him, he's boilin'!
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -25 pts · 312d
I could have so easily predicted this response. 🙄
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 312d
Your response was even more predictable.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 312d
Oh, you got me!
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 312d
Do you have a point?
Owning marijuana leaves causes just as much harm as owning oregano.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -21 pts · 312d
Was it not clear? I was commenting on how hyper reductionism is ridiculous. I even called it out in my post.
There seem to be a lot of morons who think I'm comparing murder and marijuana possession though.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 9 pts · 312d
Who brought up murder under a comment about marijuana possession?
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · -30 pts · 312d
While I absolutely don't agree with atzanteol, this statement is also utterly ridiculous. You own both marijuana and oregano with the intention of consumption. One of them is addictive, can cause psychosis, and can destroy lives.
All drugs should be decriminalized. So should weed. Maybe it even should be legal. But let's try to not repeat the same mistakes we did with alcohol. Nowadays I think most people would agree that alcohol can be consumed in moderation, but its overall effect on public health is devastating and alcoholism is a real problem that affects way too many people, also people you wouldn't think of. Science revised its guidelines of claiming a little drink a day is fine or even healthy to the best choice is no drink at all.
Its dangers were downplayed for so, so long. And now that we are legalizing weed I see the exact same sentiments about it that alcohol used to have. Marijuana is not an innocent, harmless substance. It can easily be abused and cause damage to individual lives, families, and friends.
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 312d
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · -13 pts · 312d
I am making the argument for both, that is exactly the point I am making. I see too many people demonising alcohol and calling marijuana not dangerous in the same sentence, comparing it to oregano. Both substances are dangerous. And of course marijuana is addictive, what are you talking about? You can absolutely become both physically and mentally addicted to it. You can develop a tolerance, and you can trigger psychosis in predisposed younger people. I've seen all three cases in university and it wasn't pretty.
Again, I am not advocating for the criminalisation of possession or consumption. I am only advocating for not downplaying that mj is a drug. Right now, the narrative parallels that "a glass of wine or two won't hurt", "let's have a beer with friends", "let's get the champagne to celebrate", "alcohol is fine at social events" that we used to hear some decades ago about alcohol. It didn't end well. Why are we doing this again with weed now?
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 312d
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 312d
I 100% agree with everything you said. I am very much pro legalisation of weed and decriminalization of all drugs. Unless you are cooking up tons and tons of fentanyl you shouldn't be in jail.
To me, education and awareness includes not equating marijuana and oregano.
Eheran@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 312d
Not just Amsterdam. Have a look at the map here.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 8 pts · 312d
Huh?
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 120 pts · 312d
That’s 4yrs and 2 months for those that have a hard time mathing.
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 29 pts · 312d
What’s that in metric?
YogaDouchebag@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 312d
About five pregnancies in a row with one month break each in between
bert@piefed.monster · 7 pts · 312d
How many cabbages?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 312d
How many trusses
fizgig420@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 312d
~31 Units of Truss
GPT maths:
Number of Truss Terms = (50 months × 30.44 days per month) ÷ 49 days per term Number of Truss Terms = (1522 ÷ 49) Number of Truss Terms = 31.06
Answer: ≈ 31 Liz Truss terms
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 312d
Sorry, cant do metric, but we can make the unit less helpful.
Its ~137 mochies.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 312d
4.167
skyin7@feddit.org · 4 pts · 312d
~ 2,19Ms
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 312d
He's got money and is connected. He won't serve more than 2 years
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 312d
Which will be a year with time served. Down to 6 months before work release. 6 months which will be served in a minimum security
celebrity resortrehabilitation farm.Feels like I've wasted all this time not doing drugs, exploiting models and forcing people to rape eachother. I've been such a sucker...
So anyway, anybody here want to party? I have already ordered oil and bulls for 50 people.
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 312d
Keep in mind that 1) he gets time served from the time he spent in jail, 2) if he's a good boy he'll do 85% of his time, 3) he could get into the RDAP program and get a year off. Not a bad deal.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 312d
They waited til the news was distracted so they don't have to give him a harsher sentence
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 312d
including time served. he is out in 3. joke sentence
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 312d
If he was poor, he'd have got 50 years.
Substance_P@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 312d
Such a broken system. Four years and change is a weak ass slap on the wrist for all the depraved bullshit he did.
Veedem@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 312d
He didn’t get convicted on much of it, though. It’s a flawed system and a poor person would have been locked away forever.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 312d
He's also tied to Epstein and trump too
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 312d
Bullshit their are pedophiles running free and you elected one of these criminals for president. The entire system is one pathetic hypocritical joke.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 312d
80% is less than four years. Edit: three years, three months.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 312d
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 312d
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 312d
governour of epstein island
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 312d
Trying to make it like it’s a long time. That’s four years, that’s nothing.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 312d
All they really got is pimping and beating Cassie ass. Technically.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 312d
50 months of freaking off in jail is too light
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 312d
I read the title as 50 years and thought "he's 55 so I guess that's enough", then I read the comments. WTF.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 312d
We sure he black?
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 312d
Funny how race matters less when you rich
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 312d
slap on the baby oiled wrist
Linktank@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 312d
50 whole months?
expatriado@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 312d
2% reduced fat months
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 312d
Months? Should have been years
maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 312d
We need to do more for people with weaker crimes and unfair sentences. We should audit everyone’s sentences routinely and shut down for profits.
And 40 percent of incarcerated shouldn’t be in prison. They need mental help.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 312d
maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 298d
Ugh there’s nothing to do so those guys just think about getting high all the time and stay up till 4 am getting high in prison. They practically condone it. Hopping everyone up on pills. You get extra ice cream if you take pills.
snooggums@piefed.world · 12 pts · 312d
Not long enough.
comador@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 312d
Should have been 1 day of jail for every 1 bottle of baby oil he spilt.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 312d
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 311d
That’s it?!
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 312d
Can’t stop, won’t stop! Take dat, take dat! Ain’t no party like a Diddy shower party!
Trill88@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 312d
Plus time served though. 3 years to do give or take
474D@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 312d
Less with good behavior probably
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 312d
Think he makes it out alive?
snooggums@piefed.world · 27 pts · 312d
Absolutely. He is too famous and doesn't have powerful enemies. His prison stay will be cushy and he won't serve the whole time from a cell.
He should have a far longer sentence.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 312d
Probably gonna get a pardon
FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 312d
He's going to be the event coordinator for the WH ballroom.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 312d
Make America Freakoff Again
Grimy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 312d
Money talks even inside I'm guessing, as does fame.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 312d
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 312d
Someone bust out the baby oil!
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 312d
Should a been 10 times that. All that time will do is make that animal more vicious when it gets out
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 312d
Dude's drawn like the grandad from Desmond's.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 312d
Well, I mean he did say: i thought I told you that we wont stop...
ObsidianZed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 312d
Shoulda been tree fiddy for P Diddy.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org · 3 pts · 312d
Oh gosh