It's kinda hard to find out where Coca Cola is actually made. Coke for the German market is for sure bottled in Germany, but the Coke syrup which is the base for it (which Coca Cola is very cagey about) isn't necessarily made there. I assume it's made somewhere in Europe because according to a brief web search it's made in about 4 places in the world and Europe is a big market, but there isn't really a reason to assume that the European syrup plant is in Germany, insted of Spain, Netherlands etc. - certainly possible, but not at all certain.
But TBH, even if it was all made in Germany, it's still kinda bullshit. Maybe not in a legally actionable way, but Coke is not that popular in Germany and the inventors and standard ingredients (other than water and beet sugar) have no connection to Germany whatsoever. The Coca Cola product that deserves to be called "the German drink" is Fanta, and I assume Coca Cola isn't quite ready yet to use Fanta's Nazi heritage as a selling point.
Simply because people should know exactly what they are buying and from who, without having to make a web search at the supermarket for every single product they want to buy (which sometimes is not even that easy because corporations are allowed to be pretty shady and you have to dig further than a simple search of the product/brand name)
It's not correct in this case. Which is also easily researchable on the internet.
Coca-Cola in Germany is bottled in many different plants locally, by the biggest Coca-Cola bottling company worldwide. It is a british company licensing the use of the brand and name from the US Coca-Cola company, but a separate entity.
That is something different from processed and packaged, which you talked about in your first comment.
Of course not, most ingredients however will be EU produced/processed and then processed into the final drinks in Germany.
But aside from pure agricultural product, almost no product would be "product of Germany" if using no imports would be the requirement to use that lable.
The amount of sugar they put on it is what should be illegal. Motherfuckers are co-responsible for an entire generation of obesity and we're left holding the
bag as tax payers.
i’ve noticed Coke, fanta and monster have been on sale in stores at least twice as often as any other beverage brand this summer. Often at a 50% discount and they had a huge Star Wars collaboration out of nowhere. I still didn‘t buy any of it. I bought European brands. Coke posing as „the german drink“ does bring back some memories though. Mostly bad memories.
It looks like they’re emphasizing local sourcing to distance themselves from U.S. associations, but that misses the real issue. The problem is not whether the ingredients are local, it is that Coca-Cola is still a U.S. company. The same applies to brands like Heinz, Tesla, and others. Their identity is tied to their origin, not where they source materials.
They need to show how fanta is a 100% German brand, born of the will of Coca-cola to circumventing the embargos placed on Germany during the 40's due to, you know, being Nazis and such.
Sure, so much space for empty fields beyond the wired...
Sorry, fields? Yes, sure, That's what I meant. We have those grey mice (that's what my mother always called them) working the felds. They're always so quiet and diligent.
There's one that dropped, once. A girl. I think it was a girl. They were all running back to the trucks. She must have tripped.
The trucks had departed, we found her at the edge of the field. She was so thin in her mouse suit. She had fallen, and she stayed down. There was my uncle and I. We looked at her. She was lying down. She was alsmost shaking. She slowly lifted her head. She looked at us. She had eyes thay were so green, you could have sold them for gems. But once the dazzle of her eyes passed me, I saw that she was but a spectre.
The moment lasted a second, and vanished. But it felt so much longer. I saw that girl like she might have been, like she should have been... Like the spectacular beauty she could one day be, although she probably wouldn't be. Because her piercing eyes wouldn't let anyone think of her as just a beauty.
Anyway, I took a step back. Because she felt too impressive to me, even in her condition. So I turned to my uncle, and felt all the muck on my cheek, and heard the detonation. I didn't dare to look at her. So I just turned away. I saw soldiers running towards us. Fuckers. I had to greet them. How was I going to do that?
[My first attempt at minifiction out of nowhere in a while, not in my language, sorry, I don't know what prompted me]
I think that's a very good thing, going beyond original brand source location.
It goes beyond global brand, and actually finally labels differences of the brands between markets as well as better indicating differences in sourcing and production.
Like with any labeling there's a danger of white washing. Let's hope lies get identified and prosecuted, if and when they occur.
NOBODY likes americans. Think of it like this: who are those "americans"? From what i understand the scum of europe. Instead of working on change where they were, those btards chose to run away from the problems, enslave the native americans and bring doom to the world.
every american is just what was too crap for europe. ZERO quality people.
no. i am not saying migrants are the problem. please read.
i am saying the europeans that fled the continent back than were mostlikely the worst humans at that time and I have not seen the slightest argument saying something else. i mean europeans were murderous fucks all the time, but the worst went to murder the native americans. so i am sure for generations there were children in america being told they did anything good or whatever romanticising of the USA they do there. But that time is over as we can wee from the numbers of americans coming to europe. they finally opened their eyes to see a shit world be their home. no democracy, no basic human rights... a hell hole for the scum of the earth.
So I can give you an apple pie and introduce you to some of my immigrant and minority friends and take you to some cool restaurants and museums and native American heritage sights and support groups and hopefully change your mind.
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kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 64 pts · 304d
This should be illegal
duhlieluh@lemmy.zip · 59 pts · 304d
too bad the corporations control their own regulation.
colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz · 28 pts · 304d
Not a Coca Cola fan, but why? If it’s made in Germany, it should be okay to say that
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 304d
Not so much, if the money goes to the US. And at very least some licensing fees will go to the US with an originally US brand.
errer@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 304d
Got a news flash for you: lots of German made products send plenty of money to the US
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 304d
Unfortunately.
markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 304d
Would you take issue with Nike having advertisements saying "made in Indonesia" on them?
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 15 pts · 304d
It's kinda hard to find out where Coca Cola is actually made. Coke for the German market is for sure bottled in Germany, but the Coke syrup which is the base for it (which Coca Cola is very cagey about) isn't necessarily made there. I assume it's made somewhere in Europe because according to a brief web search it's made in about 4 places in the world and Europe is a big market, but there isn't really a reason to assume that the European syrup plant is in Germany, insted of Spain, Netherlands etc. - certainly possible, but not at all certain.
But TBH, even if it was all made in Germany, it's still kinda bullshit. Maybe not in a legally actionable way, but Coke is not that popular in Germany and the inventors and standard ingredients (other than water and beet sugar) have no connection to Germany whatsoever. The Coca Cola product that deserves to be called "the German drink" is Fanta, and I assume Coca Cola isn't quite ready yet to use Fanta's Nazi heritage as a selling point.
kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 304d
Simply because people should know exactly what they are buying and from who, without having to make a web search at the supermarket for every single product they want to buy (which sometimes is not even that easy because corporations are allowed to be pretty shady and you have to dig further than a simple search of the product/brand name)
remon@ani.social · 1 pts · 304d
So what are you proposing exactly? Should the be forced to put a "invented in USA" after the "made in Germany"? I really don't see the point.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 7 pts · 304d
Just because there isn't an obvious single-sentence solution to a problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem
remon@ani.social · -1 pts · 304d
Solution to what problem, though?
It's made in Germany (and that's not even relevant) and is subject to German and EU food safety standards.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 4 pts · 304d
The problem of companies misleading customers through marketing
remon@ani.social · 1 pts · 304d
Except there is nothing misleading about claiming a product is "made in Germany" when it is in fact made in Germany.
kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 304d
I wonder why you are so triggered, but ok.
In my country they are, for example, allowed to state that their product is made here even if it is ONLY processed and packaged here.
Assuming this is the same situation (and I'd be very surprised if it isn't), "product of Germany" is false and should not be allowed.
tabloid@feddit.org · 0 pts · 304d
It's not correct in this case. Which is also easily researchable on the internet.
Coca-Cola in Germany is bottled in many different plants locally, by the biggest Coca-Cola bottling company worldwide. It is a british company licensing the use of the brand and name from the US Coca-Cola company, but a separate entity.
kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 304d
So all the ingredients are produced in Germany too?
tabloid@feddit.org · 0 pts · 304d
That is something different from processed and packaged, which you talked about in your first comment.
Of course not, most ingredients however will be EU produced/processed and then processed into the final drinks in Germany.
But aside from pure agricultural product, almost no product would be "product of Germany" if using no imports would be the requirement to use that lable.
Kissaki@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
Standardized product labeling:
🤔
nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
Only if it's from the official Koka region
verdi@feddit.org · 10 pts · 304d
The amount of sugar they put on it is what should be illegal. Motherfuckers are co-responsible for an entire generation of obesity and we're left holding the bag as tax payers.
chris@l.roofo.cc · 52 pts · 304d
I switched to Vita Cola and now I don't even like Coca cola anymore. Just doesn't feel refreshing anymore. And it's cheaper.
JetpackJackson@feddit.org · 23 pts · 304d
From Wikipedia:
Do I have the right one? It sounds interesting
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 16 pts · 304d
Yes, it's from east Germany and survived the reunification. I also like its lemony flavour more than pure cola.
JetpackJackson@feddit.org · 3 pts · 304d
Oh nice, TIL! Thanks!
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 7 pts · 304d
That's the one
JetpackJackson@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
Alright thanks!
BigShammy80@feddit.org · 15 pts · 304d
Try Afri-Cola, it's delicious 😇
chris@l.roofo.cc · 3 pts · 304d
I know it. Not my fave.
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
Too sweet. And the sugar free one has an aftertaste I don't like. Still better than Cocacola though.
kugel7c@feddit.org · 3 pts · 304d
I'm a mio mio cola junge but vita and afri are both also better than coke.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 304d
i’ve noticed Coke, fanta and monster have been on sale in stores at least twice as often as any other beverage brand this summer. Often at a 50% discount and they had a huge Star Wars collaboration out of nowhere. I still didn‘t buy any of it. I bought European brands. Coke posing as „the german drink“ does bring back some memories though. Mostly bad memories.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 22 pts · 304d
Would have been even worse, a lot more truthful and also funnier if they did that with Fanta.
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 2 pts · 304d
I only buy monster for my younger brother and only when it is on sale. I wished he'd drink a European brand energy drink such as Gönrgy.
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 29 pts · 304d
We have a word for that in German: "Etikettenschwindel"
coronach@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 304d
I appreciate German's endless supply of terms 🙂
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
That's just etikett and schwindle together!
Kissaki@feddit.org · 5 pts · 304d
Roughly translates to misleading or con labeling
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 304d
"Label swindle" is the closest literal translation I think.
germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 304d
I’ve been drinking Fritz Cola for about 7 years now, cheap tricks won’t win me back
RichieRich@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 304d
Same here but with "Afri Cola". German drinks do taste better than Coca Cola. 💪
Trail@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
Yeah, I have also switched to a local one here in greece, tastes better and does not have an aftertaste.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 20 pts · 304d
They could try naming it Koker Koler and offering it in 1 liter mugs. I'd still prefer cheaper regional alternatives but it would be funny.
Melchior@feddit.org · 8 pts · 304d
Koker being the German word for Coker, which is a thermal cracker unit in an oil refinery.
MrNesser@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
Too close to Kofola a legit EU brand cola Tastes awful to me
mapu@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 304d
Can't agree, Kofola out of the tap is glorious. Can't wait to be in Czechia/Slovakia again
MrNesser@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
Prefer Radegast myself
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 304d
I still have no idea why would anyone drink branded cola when your average grocery store cheap cola tastes exactly the same.
But again, maybe it is me. I don't even feel much difference between normal cola, zero and light.
Cliff@feddit.org · 6 pts · 304d
That is clearly you then. There is a massive difference between normal coke vs. light or zero.
DasAlbatross@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
I looked this take up on WebMD and it said your taste buds are wack.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 19 pts · 304d
superior water drinking noises
Pofski@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 304d
It looks like they’re emphasizing local sourcing to distance themselves from U.S. associations, but that misses the real issue. The problem is not whether the ingredients are local, it is that Coca-Cola is still a U.S. company. The same applies to brands like Heinz, Tesla, and others. Their identity is tied to their origin, not where they source materials.
mcange@feddit.org · 14 pts · 304d
Who needs Coca Cola?
RichieRich@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
😍 SUPER-SEXY AFRI-COLA!
rockmeat@feddit.org · 12 pts · 304d
in other words, the boycott is working! Keep it up, lads!
Ooops@feddit.org · 11 pts · 304d
I thought it's a UK (headquarter of CCEP) or Spanish (by far biggest share owner is Coca-Cola Iberian Partners) product...
(for reference: less than 20% of that "US brand" is owned by the original US company)
Kissaki@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
The internationalization of corporations really doesn't make it easy.
Local remains local though. Not every other is multinational or liquidated across investors.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 304d
Maybe they should try adding back the cocaine.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 304d
I'm pretty sure they're doing this in most if not all, of Europe.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 304d
It turns out to be quite hard to boycott USA products, but our household is getting there.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
What are you struggling with?
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 304d
How long do you have?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
CPUs, GPUs...
Drinks have never even been an issue.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 304d
How about Fanta?
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
They need to show how fanta is a 100% German brand, born of the will of Coca-cola to circumventing the embargos placed on Germany during the 40's due to, you know, being Nazis and such.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
"We make it from whatever comes out of the camps! It's a nationalistic drink, please buy it!"
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
"Camps? Surely you mean 'fields'... Right?"
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Sure, so much space for empty fields beyond the wired...
Sorry, fields? Yes, sure, That's what I meant. We have those grey mice (that's what my mother always called them) working the felds. They're always so quiet and diligent.
There's one that dropped, once. A girl. I think it was a girl. They were all running back to the trucks. She must have tripped.
The trucks had departed, we found her at the edge of the field. She was so thin in her mouse suit. She had fallen, and she stayed down. There was my uncle and I. We looked at her. She was lying down. She was alsmost shaking. She slowly lifted her head. She looked at us. She had eyes thay were so green, you could have sold them for gems. But once the dazzle of her eyes passed me, I saw that she was but a spectre.
The moment lasted a second, and vanished. But it felt so much longer. I saw that girl like she might have been, like she should have been... Like the spectacular beauty she could one day be, although she probably wouldn't be. Because her piercing eyes wouldn't let anyone think of her as just a beauty.
Anyway, I took a step back. Because she felt too impressive to me, even in her condition. So I turned to my uncle, and felt all the muck on my cheek, and heard the detonation. I didn't dare to look at her. So I just turned away. I saw soldiers running towards us. Fuckers. I had to greet them. How was I going to do that?
[My first attempt at minifiction out of nowhere in a while, not in my language, sorry, I don't know what prompted me]
Lachs@feddit.org · 4 pts · 303d
Pfanner 2L Grüner Tee Tetrapack Meisterklasse representiert
festkoerper@feddit.org · 3 pts · 304d
Wie Pepsi dann: Schmeckt nicht mehr.
peetabix@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 304d
Didn't they do this during WWII as well?
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
They created Fanta because they couldn't import the ingredients to make Coke because of embargoes.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
Fanta is "we found this in the trashcan and made soda out of it because the show must go on (or something, but with bubbles)".
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
I'll be honest though, Mexican Fanta is pretty good.
Kissaki@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
I think that's a very good thing, going beyond original brand source location.
It goes beyond global brand, and actually finally labels differences of the brands between markets as well as better indicating differences in sourcing and production.
Like with any labeling there's a danger of white washing. Let's hope lies get identified and prosecuted, if and when they occur.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 304d
Again? Hunh. Sounds like Faygo 2.0 🤷🏼♂️
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Guaraná is better anyway.
zehnkirchen@feddit.org · -9 pts · 304d
NOBODY likes americans. Think of it like this: who are those "americans"? From what i understand the scum of europe. Instead of working on change where they were, those btards chose to run away from the problems, enslave the native americans and bring doom to the world. every american is just what was too crap for europe. ZERO quality people.
Fusselwurm@feddit.org · 7 pts · 304d
Keep your illusions… and don't ever read about European history. :>
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 5 pts · 304d
Saying migrants are just the crappier people leaving their home is a right wing dog whistle.
zehnkirchen@feddit.org · 0 pts · 302d
no. i am not saying migrants are the problem. please read. i am saying the europeans that fled the continent back than were mostlikely the worst humans at that time and I have not seen the slightest argument saying something else. i mean europeans were murderous fucks all the time, but the worst went to murder the native americans. so i am sure for generations there were children in america being told they did anything good or whatever romanticising of the USA they do there. But that time is over as we can wee from the numbers of americans coming to europe. they finally opened their eyes to see a shit world be their home. no democracy, no basic human rights... a hell hole for the scum of the earth.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 304d
I wish you'd come over here and say that!
So I can give you an apple pie and introduce you to some of my immigrant and minority friends and take you to some cool restaurants and museums and native American heritage sights and support groups and hopefully change your mind.
Miaou@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 304d
If your answer to "americans suck" is "not only americans live here!" you may have missed the point
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Nah I was just trying to be nice and stuff. Funny and wholesome for a laugh.
Edit: it was also because that person said that immigrants were all bastards and so forth