PSA: DO NOT INSTALL xx.04 releases!!!
- The .04 stands for "April", commonly known for "April Fools".
- Many projects use the term "LTS", meaning "Lies, Tricks, and Slander". So called 'Enterprise' users often promote these releases to "own the noobs". Be warned!
54 Comments
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 34 pts · 317d
Or just use Debian, if you really enjoy the sluggishness and shitty dependency management of APT.
Alternatively you could switch to Arch and the glory that is pacman (or, even better, yay).
...But that's none of my business.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz · 60 pts · 317d
For a main desktop, absolutely.
For low maintenance servers and vms? Staying with Debian.
For a laptop on which Arch gives issues (mine where with battery when standby). POP-OS has been working well.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 42 pts · 317d
No, that's fair. I wouldn't recommend Arch for server use. Debian has its place, and I respect that.
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 28 pts · 317d
FIGHT ME BITCH
i actually use Debian, but your tone here cannot be tolerated. I challenge you to a duel.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 23 pts · 317d
You... challenge me to a duel because you're into Debian and I recognize its superiority?
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 41 pts · 317d
No–because you're being reasonable and nonpartisan.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 23 pts · 317d
Aww, shit.
48954246@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 317d
I thoroughly enjoyed this exchange. Thank you internet strangers
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 317d
My home server runs OpenSUSE Leap and I've quite enjoyed it.
AnthropomorphicCat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 317d
Yeah. I use Arch on my gaming PC. But on my laptop-converted-to-a-NAS I use OpenMediaVault (Which is Debian based)
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 317d
There are 2 wolves inside you.
One uses the yay and can install anything from AUR.
The other can install propreitery .deb packages your university vpn comes in to submit homeworks.
There is a crow pulling both wolves by the tail called "bedrock linux" that can install packages using both apt and aur.
The crow is the most dangerous.
jim3692@discuss.online · 17 pts · 317d
Bedrock Linux requires you to change distro.
Let me introduce you to distrobox. It containerizes the distro of choice, and allows you to install any software of any distro, without messing any system files.
Regarding the VPN case though, I haven't tested it, but I would rather install any kind of proprietary software inside a VM. Steam may be an exception.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 317d
Oh god... what happens when they both try to pull the same library as a dependency, but slightly different versions because different repos?
exu@feditown.com · 7 pts · 317d
You can just make an AUR package that downloads and installs the .deb
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 317d
Technically you can actually install Apt onto Arch Linux. (don't)
ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 317d
Debtap ftw
rikudou@lemmings.world · 14 pts · 317d
Or just switch to Nix and finally witness some actually good package manager.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 29 pts · 317d
Yeah, but I need to be able to actually do shit. Preferably in finite amounts of time.
jim3692@discuss.online · 7 pts · 317d
The Nix package manager can be installed on most distros.
Keep in mind though:
rikudou@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 317d
Yep, I use it everywhere, that's why I said Nix and not NixOS. I even use it on the company Windows machine inside WSL.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 317d
Look at me I am running a package management system with atomic upgrades that can roll back, and indubitable sounds positively fabulous.
oce@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 317d
which memeSaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 5 pts · 317d
No, thanks. I like my distro not to break with updates ever. Arch breaks stuff every few months at least. I know cause I have used it. Also I prefer to just have fewer updates in general.
exu@feditown.com · 4 pts · 317d
Paru is a rust rewrite(ish) of yay and therefor even even betterer
Edit: uncorrecting autocorrect
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 313d
File based package review and automatic git tracking + merge of local PKGBUILD changes are pretty attractive features. I'll give it a try.
Ofiuco@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 317d
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 315d
Tbf, you can always run arch in distrobox and just use the AUR from there if you prefer fedora. I personally do though with gnome.
Ofiuco@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 315d
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 317d
apt's dependency management is shit?
mittorn@masturbated.one · 2 pts · 317d
@protogen420 @xxce2AAb sure
https://github.com/FWGS/xash3d-fwgs/issues/1828#issuecomment-2415131759
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 306d
let me see if I understood this straight, someone replaced a core library which caused apt to rightfully to belive the package is not there which caused all packages that depend on it to be marked for autoremoval as expected
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 315d
The server software world is debian based. Fortunately/unfortunately.
Horses for courses, desktop and server OS's should have different priorities and approaches.
gkaklas@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 317d
Even better: stay away from xx.10 releases as well!
rockerface@lemmy.cafe · 30 pts · 317d
.10 stands for October and October is the spooky month! xx.10 releases are just here to sow terror and panic!
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 316d
You mean I can turn my PC into a haunted house? That'll save me so much money and time!
user1234@lemmynsfw.com · 8 pts · 317d
So that leaves what, Ubuntu 6.06?
Supercrunchy@programming.dev · 1 pts · 314d
The only good ubuntu is 4.04 "Not Found"
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 317d
Zozano@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 317d
Thats why I use nixOS. Its only ever .05 or .11
As it should be.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 317d
do you remember what happened last time the version is 11?
(/s, I <3 Nix & NixOS)
Ging@anarchist.nexus · 18 pts · 317d
This is a messed up meme 😂 When I first into'd ubuntu, I really thought I was big-brained for choosing LTS over the more current release. Mentors are so much more important than you'd think when you're 14ish
nitramek@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 316d
Wait I know this is a meme but isnt LTS a way to be on the most stable version with the biggest support by other software/hw?
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 317d
I thought LTS was short for Let Them Suffer
kinther@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 317d
This I can get behind
genuineparts@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 316d
Arch user here btw. What is a... 'release'?
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 316d
When a mommy and daddy love each other very much-
genuineparts@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 315d
Again... Arch user. Such release will never happen for me either :D
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 316d
Rolling is the way, embrace the updates, go TumbleWeed
lemmyknow@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 317d
That explains some of the instability in Pop!_OS 24.04… Programs suddenly closing, session dying upon unlock. Bluetooth turning on by itself sometimes. Glad to know it isn't haunted, though
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 317d
In fairness isn't that the beta release of the cosmic desktop? I would expect bugs and random hauntings
lemmyknow@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 317d
Yes, it is Beta. Not a horrible experience overall, despite being Beta. The Bluetooth thing can be a tad annoying, when my headphones randomly scream "connected" in my ears. Windows closing can also be a tad annoying, and the death of my active session moreso (akin to all windows closing together. Combo!)
flemtone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 316d
Kubuntu 25.10 works great!
Rooty@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 316d
I actually like snaps ducks
obscur_3@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 316d
Its also autism month...
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 315d
"They have taken us for absolute fools."