MIT is 1st school to reject Trump administration's agenda in exchange for funding benefits

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/mit-rejects-trump-agenda-funding-benefits-rcna236894?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

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floofloof@lemmy.ca · 112 pts · 319d

Well done MIT. Hopefully this will encourage others to stand their ground too, even if they're not so well equipped with other sources of funding as MIT.

tal@olio.cafe · 88 pts · 319d (4 replies)

"With respect, we cannot support the proposed approach to addressing the issues facing higher education,” the Massachusetts Institute of Technology president wrote in a letter.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WithDueRespect

With Due Respect

"Why is it that whenever someone says 'with all due respect', they really mean 'kiss my ass'?"

— Ashley Williams, Mass Effect 1

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 319d

Highly appropriate though, if we’re being honest

Nastybutler@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 319d

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 318d

All due respect, if getting spit on's how respect is now defined
-Run the Jewels

with a video that's only gotten more grim with time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-M15L4BTqI

badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 317d
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foggy@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 319d (5 replies)

Universities have legacies to maintain. Some have already irreparably fucked that up.

Looking at you, Columbia.

Straight to the trash, any resume from Columbia. Sorry not sorry. Your institution is beyond tainted. Just tell me you got a GED instead.

scintilla@crust.piefed.social · 22 pts · 319d (1 reply)

I mean arguably Columbia is perfectly mantaining its legacy.

cdf12345@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 318d

King's College

bo5on@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 319d (2 replies)

I'm sorry how is that fair to current students or alumni who predate current events?

foggy@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 319d

It isn't.

That's the nature of of ruining a legacy.

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 318d

Fair isn't how things normally play out. If hiring was fair, the name of your University wouldn't have half the impact it does on law firms and such. Any good company will know they are still a good student if they graduated, but stains come from before/during/after no matter what.

Were the Harry Potter books a great series for kids at the time, I say definitely. Do the stains from the authors views after they come out stain the actors/actresses who don't denounce them.. unfortunately yes. You see it in so many threads shitting on anyone willing to work on their upcoming series.

Is it reasonable... Many people think yes, so they will lose audience. Many people think no, so they will keep that audience. If Rowling died, would that stain on the product still hold in 10 years.... It will stay for some forever.

TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 319d (9 replies)

This is particularly impressive considering 48% of MIT's funding is from the federal government. This is the largest percentage of any university.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 318d (8 replies)

MIT is in a unique position to negotiate here though as that funding is a bargain for the US. And honestly MIT's reputation and capacity to attract the global top talent in stem will remain long after a funding battle unless they trash it.

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 318d (2 replies)

Yeah being ranked as one of the best schools in the world will hopefully help them gain leverage. On the world stage there are only a few U.S. schools that say "the U.S. is still good at things" and letting MIT fall from those positions will make the U.S. look like their re-imagining of education is the complete failure we all know it is going to be. Would someone else take their place, yes. Will they be from the U.S., no. I was hoping UCF would reach that point somewhere along the line, but I'm biased and I think they got a boot on their neck for the last number of years that stopped them from research growth and diverted it to stupid Desantis shit.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 318d (1 reply)

It's not even that, MIT has this reputation because they produce results. They're well known to be the upstream source of massive amounts of technological innovation with all the financial benefits that comes with

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 318d

I agree, that is what makes them rank high. It's what makes Harvard rank high while turning out 50% shit students in my opinion

UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 318d (2 replies)

I'm afraid the current administration doesn't care about the reputation of US institutions.

Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 318d (1 reply)

MIT will outlast the administration, is the idea. And if (and when) the pendulum swings, they don't want to have tarnished their otherwise impeccable reputation by capitulating.

BanMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 318d

Unlike a number of other schools, some of which (Berkeley) are downright pathetic.

Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 318d (1 reply)

Yeah, I mean Gordon Freeman went there...

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 318d

He learned how to throw switches. That education really pays for itself. :p

expatriado@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 319d

pretty sure MIT did the math

dan@upvote.au · 23 pts · 319d

Good; hopefully other universities follow.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 21 pts · 319d
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Tinidril@midwest.social · 3 pts · 317d (1 reply)

How can there be funding benefits of there is no funding? They kinda gave up their leverage

tonytins@pawb.social · 1 pts · 317d

I know California threatened to cut support for colleges who caved to Trump but I'm not quite sure with Massachusetts.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 318d (1 reply)

and to provide instruction in American civics to all foreign students,” the memo about the compact said.

Of course, they will have to use the civics curriculum provided by the illegitimate MAGA Nazi government, which will be prepared by the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

3abas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d

American history currently taught in schools is already colonial propaganda, they wouldn't need to change much. Most of the world learns a very different history of America, and it would be sufficient to expose them to the propaganda Americans grew up on.

IamSparticles@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 316d

Signers would be required to freeze tuition rates charged to American students for the next five years, among other conditions, according to the memo. In return, the schools would be given a “competitive advantage,” including priority for grants and invitations to White House events and discussions with officials, a White House official said in a statement.

Going to the white house to talk to officials there does not sound like an "advantage" under the current leadership. It sounds more like punishment.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 318d

i was going to say, but MIT is a pipeline for Israeli weapons research industry, scientist, engineer that dont feel conscience when supporting israeli efforts.