Italy will be the latest country to require age verification for porn sites
https://www.engadget.com/cybersecurity/italy-will-be-the-latest-country-to-require-age-verification-for-porn-sites-170913842.html
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themurphy@lemmy.ml · 111 pts · 280d
If we set aside the privacy nightmare, consider this.
Teens wont stop searching for porn. Would you rather they find it on not-moderated sites, that might also consist of illegal content? Or might consists of nudes from people than didnt consent to their picture being online?
Everything is just dumb about this.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 280d
True, it's like the war on drugs, but drugs that can be perfectly copied infinite times and fully shared over the internet.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 14 pts · 280d
and not to mention, the tools required to create it (maybe not the best examples, but still) are already in the possession of virtually everybody.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 23 pts · 280d
No considerations are taken for the children, this isn't about them, it's just populism & control.
rozodru@pie.andmc.ca · 18 pts · 280d
yes you're right but you and I both know they aren't concerned about that because going back to your first sentence that's what this is really about but masked as a "won't anyone think of the children" so it's easier to swallow (no pun intended)
themurphy@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 280d
At least in the EU they will implement a verification system, meaning you only have to verify with the official government, and then you can use a anonymised token that gives the porn sites only the age.
It's not perfect, but it's far better than everything else suggested.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 280d
the recent California law seems to be better. what it requires is the parent to be able to configure the age for an OS account. browsers can then check the age bracket, and enforce the limit instead of having the website do it.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 280d
Sometimes I forget that Italy, despite its history, is currently under control of far-right neo-fascists.
ragas@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 280d
Why do you say despite its history? What about Mussolini? They had their own mini Hitler.
Damage@feddit.it · 33 pts · 279d
Mini? Excuse me, I'll have you know that our own fascist leader actually invented the term fascism, was in power before Hitler and for a longer period.
I won't have you besmirch our glorious history of oppression like that.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 280d
Australia and UK are at the forefront of Internet ID control and both are Labor/Labour party led.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 279d
To say that the UK is currently Labour led is like saying Germany from 1933 - 1945 was run by socialists (national socialists as it were).
Their name means fuck all when their actions say the opposite.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 279d
Labour (at least in the UK, I don't know about AU) is not a socialist party, though at times it has had some socialist members and MPs.
And, regardless of that, there have been numerous socialist and social-democratic parties that have been authoritarian, not just the center-left. Left/right and authoritarian/non-authoritarian are independent dimensions.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 279d
Aye, that's true. My point was just that to claim the UK is Labour party led (in contrast with Italy's neo-fascists) doesn't really work as a contrast because they're not really contrasting. The UK's current Labour party is authoritarian, pro-capital, pro-austerity, anti-welfare state, anti-immigrant, anti-freedom of expression, anti-protest, anti-democracy, pro-Trump, and (indirectly) pro-Farage.
They're not the Labour party any more (although that's been obvious since 1997 when they rebranded as New Labour) but to those who don't follow UK politics they still have the marketing of socialists, of pro-welfare state, of being pro-democracy and pro-worker. That is not the case, and they probably have more in common with Meloni's Brothers of Italy, neo-fascist party, than they do with 20th century Labour from which they are so closely associated.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 279d
-Labour Party Rule Book, clause IV.
(I'm not claiming the PLP are democratic or socialists, merely pointing out that they are breaking their own rules, and they they publicly claim to be socialist)
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 279d
"No true Scotsman..."
Which party, anywhere in the world, has been true to their word once in power?
Zombie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 279d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attlee_ministry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_government,_1964%E2%80%931970
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_government,_1974%E2%80%931979
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 279d
I heard good things about Labour post war (from Gary's Economics) but put it down to war recovery.
Didn't know about the other terms, thanks. That's quite a list of achievements.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 279d
Here in Australia we saw a bigotted Eddie Booth in BBC's Love Thy Neighbour(1972-1976). He was a fanatical Labour supporter. What was that about?
Edit: That was the joke, says AI: "The show's humor relied on the irony of Eddie's political alignment versus his personal, racist attitudes."
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 32 pts · 279d
ever notice how its happening all at once, like someone is pushing behind the scenes.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 279d
It's big tech and anti-porn lunatics like CitizenGo.
devolution@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 280d
Torrents Ya'll! Oh wait... Gen Alpha don't know what those are...
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 280d
Typey computers are hard!
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 280d
Mullvad is still in their reach though.
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
*y'all. You couldn't even spell a redneck word correctly.
Pauce@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 280d
Spell checking randos over an apostrophe placement in a colloquial term is truly a choice.
cheeseburger@piefed.ca · 15 pts · 280d
What the fuck is going on?
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 278d
Control. Governments don't really like the idea of anonymous internet.
pendel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 279d
For the children
jet@hackertalks.com · 3 pts · 276d
It's almost like this isn't about porn at all, but an attack on the open internet and being about to track every one
redlemace@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 280d
Any free vpn provider that has itallian exit nodes? (Asking for a friend)
tal@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 280d
You don't want one with exit nodes in Italy. You want one with exit nodes not in Italy. The exit node determines where the user appears to be coming from to the site in question.
madcaesar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 279d
Maybe OP's kink is blue balls
nforminvasion@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 280d
Proton possibly?