The deal also includes voting in December to extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies that Democrats have been fighting to preserve, according to the report.
Vote on it? They don’t control the House or Senate. They’ll lose it.
They have the votes on the Dem side plus GOP defectors to pass something no problem. It would political suicide for the GOP people siding with Dems right to bail on it in a month, especially after people just got hit hard by this shutdown and the bills for their upcoming ACA premiums. I think they've got the votes.
If this was true, there would be no reason not to vote on it all together.
This happened under Biden. (Schumer then, too, I belive) Separated a bill, passed the parts the Republicans wanted, then the Republicans voted against the part the Democrat wanted.
Oh, yes, I'm sure they'll follow through on their pinky promise to be civil like they have every other time in history when they get the chance to dig in. And I'm also sure that Trump will happily not veto a democratic bill to make an example or anything.
Last time Schumer caved because he didn't want to inflict shutdown pain on Americans, so he said. This time he did exactly that, then also caved. Motherfucker.
Oh good a vote in the Senate. Fucking Mike Johnson will never bring it up in the house and you just traded away everything for nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Dems wonder why people have a shit opinion of them and its this.
These fuckers are completely complicit. Republicans' word is absolutely worthless. How can the claim they'll vote on healthcare in December be at all believed?
I believe they'll have a vote in the Senate. And I believe even if it passes, Republicans only agreed to it after confirming Johnson won't even hold a vote in the House.
They didn't reach any deal since they didn't get anything for the American people.
These collaborators capitulated and sold the Democrats and the American people out.
But you know what the best part about this is? Trump and the Repbulicans now get to point out, right or wrong, that see Democrats were the ones who caused the shutdown and they get a chance to spout off more propaganda about how Democrats are to blame for the incoming Republican caused premium hikes. And the American people are going to just eat it up.
Yeah yeah, I know. Trading their votes for the promise of a vote in the future is kinda dumb. But then, there is this nugget buried here:
There is also a negotiation to reinstate all of the federal workers Trump laid off during the shutdown, the report adds.
That might just be worth it, because it would be Congress passing something that puts direct constraints on what the President can do, and daring him to veto it.
Edited to add: don't sleep on the 3 spending bills that are being negotiated too. This effort looks like a continuing resolution that extends most agencies through the end of the year, but those 3 bills constitute full appropriations for agriculture, military construction and legislative agencies. And it looks like Democrats may have won back some funding for programs that the House budget gutted. This is all from the NYT, if I happen to find a non-paywall link I'll add it
Multiple sources granted anonymity told Axios that at least 10 Democrats plan to vote on the deal, which includes supporting a procedural motion to approve a series of short-term spending bills that fund the government through the end of the year. The deal also includes voting in December to extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies that Democrats have been fighting to preserve, according to the report.
There is also a negotiation to reinstate all of the federal workers Trump laid off during the shutdown, the report adds.
54 Comments
Veedem@lemmy.world · 173 pts · 296d
Vote on it? They don’t control the House or Senate. They’ll lose it.
just_another_person@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 296d
They have the votes on the Dem side plus GOP defectors to pass something no problem. It would political suicide for the GOP people siding with Dems right to bail on it in a month, especially after people just got hit hard by this shutdown and the bills for their upcoming ACA premiums. I think they've got the votes.
SaltSong@startrek.website · 141 pts · 296d
If this was true, there would be no reason not to vote on it all together.
This happened under Biden. (Schumer then, too, I belive) Separated a bill, passed the parts the Republicans wanted, then the Republicans voted against the part the Democrat wanted.
Bend over, here it comes again.
snooggums@piefed.world · 49 pts · 296d
Yeah, this the same old Schumer compromise ratcheting everything to the right
Ancalagon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 296d
As is his job.
Triumph@fedia.io · 48 pts · 296d
I’m sure they’ll have that vote right after they swear in that congresswoman and release the Epstein files.
xyzzy@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 296d
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 296d
There's no reminder bot on here yet is there?
xyzzy@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 296d
sidelove@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 296d
Oh, yes, I'm sure they'll follow through on their pinky promise to be civil like they have every other time in history when they get the chance to dig in. And I'm also sure that Trump will happily not veto a democratic bill to make an example or anything.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 296d
Good. Fuck the GOP. Let them "suicide" at great numbers.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 296d
If they had the votes they would have included it in the current bill.
Prox@lemmy.world · 148 pts · 296d
And we will once again be forced to watch as the Democrats find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
They won the elections in a landslide only to turn around and IMMEDIATELY fuck it up.
unrealizedrealities@kbin.melroy.org · 18 pts · 296d
This is the homeostasis of the status quo, turgid and frothing at the edges while slowly gurgling down the drain.
Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
If they were gonna cave, why put everyone through all the pain first?
Why pretend they even care at this point?
Mamdani for President! Legit seems to be the only one who actually cares.
Auli@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 296d
Let's see how and what he actually does. God it's like people have never heard a politician lie to get elected before.
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub · 117 pts · 296d
Last time Schumer caved because he didn't want to inflict shutdown pain on Americans, so he said. This time he did exactly that, then also caved. Motherfucker.
smeg@infosec.pub · 55 pts · 296d
Look, upper and middle income flight passengers were being inconvenienced - the Democratic Party cannot stand for that!
Screwing ACA subsidy recipients? They're easy to sacrifice.
snooggums@piefed.world · 8 pts · 296d
This past spring, right?
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 296d
Yep. First real opportunity the Dems had to meaningfully oppose Trump, and they rolled over like a trained dog
Catma@lemmy.world · 93 pts · 296d
Oh good a vote in the Senate. Fucking Mike Johnson will never bring it up in the house and you just traded away everything for nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Dems wonder why people have a shit opinion of them and its this.
watson387@sopuli.xyz · 68 pts · 296d
These fuckers are completely complicit. Republicans' word is absolutely worthless. How can the claim they'll vote on healthcare in December be at all believed?
Maeve@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 296d
You win the best guess award.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 296d
I believe they'll have a vote in the Senate. And I believe even if it passes, Republicans only agreed to it after confirming Johnson won't even hold a vote in the House.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 53 pts · 296d
Good! The LAST thing we Need is for ALL this Hardship to be for SOMETHING! I LOVE Starving WITHOUT healthcare for LITERALLY no Reason!
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 52 pts · 296d
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 296d
Is your think the parties are the same, you're incredibly out of touch.
One is batshit crazy, violent, and selfish. The other is weak and pathetic. They're both quite stupid, though.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 296d
No one thinks the parties are the same. Some people lie their fucking asses off about it though. And some of them get paid to do it.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
BoTh SiDeS
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 296d
Well I was afraid it would just be trans people losing our healthcare, but nope it's everyone.
aarch0x40@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 296d
Chuck, you had public opinion on your side and you blew it. Enjoy your retirement.
n4ch1sm0@piefed.social · 32 pts · 296d
He's CAVING. Americans, call his office NOW.
https://youtu.be/MFejM5qHa5M
Invidious link if you prefer that
Linktank@lemmy.today · 31 pts · 296d
Why aren't people posting a phone number instead of a fucking youtube link?
mr_account@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 296d
http://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact
Contact page for Schumer's office. Give em hell
Jerkface@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
Done. Thanks for the link.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 296d
Fuck those traitors.
Pistcow@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 296d
How about, vote on the credits first before the budget?
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 296d
Wonder which marginalized group they threw under the bus for this. My guess is people with disabilities.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 12 pts · 296d
My guess is all.
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 296d
People with disabilities are fucked without healthcare.
LordCrom@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 296d
Fucking cowards.
They caved and got nothing in return except a guaranteed vote that will end in a NO from GOP....
They gave up the SHIELD WALL and got nothing for it.
aramis87@fedia.io · 19 pts · 296d
God. Fucking. Damnit!
etherphon@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 296d
Doesn't sound like they've reached a deal at all, what a dumb article.
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 296d
The deal is "we surrender. Again"
snooggums@piefed.world · 11 pts · 296d
Schumer is just offering to lube up the general public again.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 296d
Reached a deal.
They didn't reach any deal since they didn't get anything for the American people.
These collaborators capitulated and sold the Democrats and the American people out.
But you know what the best part about this is? Trump and the Repbulicans now get to point out, right or wrong, that see Democrats were the ones who caused the shutdown and they get a chance to spout off more propaganda about how Democrats are to blame for the incoming Republican caused premium hikes. And the American people are going to just eat it up.
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 296d
A deal would imply that they extracted some concessions. This was just a capitulation.
dhork@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 296d
Yeah yeah, I know. Trading their votes for the promise of a vote in the future is kinda dumb. But then, there is this nugget buried here:
That might just be worth it, because it would be Congress passing something that puts direct constraints on what the President can do, and daring him to veto it.
Edited to add: don't sleep on the 3 spending bills that are being negotiated too. This effort looks like a continuing resolution that extends most agencies through the end of the year, but those 3 bills constitute full appropriations for agriculture, military construction and legislative agencies. And it looks like Democrats may have won back some funding for programs that the House budget gutted. This is all from the NYT, if I happen to find a non-paywall link I'll add it
Jagger2097@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 296d
Great, then the executive will refuse to spend the money and we get nothing. Noting here is good.
snooggums@piefed.world · 6 pts · 296d
That is if Trump doesn't bother vetoing anything that is a compromise with the Dems right off the bat.
aramis87@fedia.io · 11 pts · 296d
I wonder if the bill still has the nation-wide shadow abortion ban in it. I bet it does ....
ikidd@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
That was already the law.
I_Jedi@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 296d
Haha my friend owes me $20.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 296d
So they fell over.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 296d
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 296d
For real life?