They spent so much time and effort prepping to act like it’s okay to fuck minors. Now they have to deal with Trump sucking dick.
If it isn’t true, release the files. The same files everyone in Trump’s orbit promised to release before they got appointed to higher positions and saw what was in them.
I'm really, really hoping it turns out that Jeff's brother was telling the truth when he said it wasn't Bill. You know what Ghislaine's horse was named?
Fun and all, but isn't this the most obvious case of brothers just ribbing each other? Mark's obviously making fun of Jeffrey for playing friends with such a piece of shit (Trump).
The only reason I think it's remotely credible is he said "the photos", not like "you think the Russians have a photo of such and such" like one might joke about...he said the photos.
It also raises the obvious question... What's wrong with destroying Trump's presidency?
I had quite a conservative upbringing, and considered myself a conservative when I was a very young adult. But I never would have thought that one person was more important than my own beliefs. We are supposed to live in a representative democracy, where if one politician is disgraced, then you boot him to the curb, and go root around in the trash bin for the next politician. It's not like there's a shortage of politicians.
Similar upbringing and path. It's felt terrible to learn so many friends and family don't actually care about policy, democracy or even freedom as much as they want to hate a "liberal" and want their politician to do the same.
So Ben Shapiro knows that Trump is a crook, a pedophile, ... But he's more concerned with keeping those scandals covered up than with seeking justice. Keeping their guy in power is more important than any morality, which demonstrates how amoral the entire usa right wing has become.
I think it's possible to have small c conservative values and still be a productive and peaceful member of society. Even if I might disagree with their views.
However, I don't know that the American political right has had any genuinely held small c conservative values since Reagan, so
Small c conservative values before Reagan were racism and segregation so I'm personally not convinced. I mean if you look at a timeline of American rightwing politics you go from Jim Crow to the Civil Rights Movement and right into Nixon's Southern Strategy. That shit has always been based on racism and slavery.
What is polite about telling someone who was born a certain way beyond their choices that they shouldn’t exist? Not every worldview is inherently good or noble. Some are just evil.
What does this change? Before the election, the whole world already knew Trump raped children and 77 million Americans voted for him anyway. It was everywhere. There was no rock large enough that anyone could hide under it and not know that truth. They were OK with this.
You are disastrously underestimating the level of ignorance that about 40% of US voters have. So many people genuinely believe he will lower taxes and improve the economy for working class people.
I, for one, did not have "Trump sucked Bill Clinton's cock" on my bingo card. Who knows what else is there? The truth is wilder than anyone's imagination.
OK, yeah. I didn't see that one coming. Bubba isn't confirmed to be Bill Clinton, but if true, I wonder how many of Trump's bigoted fan base will finally ditch him for being bisexual, of all things.
The only thing that I can think of is that this is particularly personal to Trump and he doesn't want his twisted private life getting out, regardless of how little it really matters to his base.
Ditto. I have no idea why the Epstein list has been such a focus.. instead of the actual problems. But then again, it’s not like the d’s want to fix anything either. It’s a distraction.
The Epstein files are such a big thing because releasing them was a major part of Trump's campaign and calling their opponents and people they don't like pedophiles is a big Republican tactic (it's part of the "think of the children!" tactic they love to use). He made a huge stink about how all the politicians in Washington were in the files and that's why they wouldn't release them, and that when he became President, he'd release them and show the whole country how we're being led by a bunch of pedophiles (with some implied "that's why they support LGBTQ people" thrown in there).
He created an entire cult who care only about the ring of Jewish pedophiles who secretly run the world or whatever, and they made it their entire personality. Their glorious leader actually being one of the people listed in there would crack a foundational pillar of their worldview. I'd say "if they even believe that it's true and not a liberal lie", but Republicans are doing a damn good job of openly stating that he is definitely in there and that's why they won't release them.
It should be, but that's not what Republicans care about. They care about hurting people - especially leftists and minorities. And Trump promised that the Epstein files would hurt Democrats. Anything else they can justify away as being the fault of Democrats somehow.
Yeah, it's just your bog standard destroy the constitution, crash the economy, betray the allies, suck up to the dictators, rape the children, grab 'em by the pussy, suspend the right to trial, presidential personal thug army in masks abducting the less pale citizens, suspension of the right to trial, concrete over Gaza to make a theme park investment opportunity, armed insurrection storming the Capitol, defiance of budget rules, starve the poor, mass disenfranchisement of black districts, classified documents to russia 44 times felony presidency.
Absolutely standard. Just like the dems always do. Both sides, both sides. They're the same picture. Absolutely nothing to see here, situation normal. Biden kissed a girls hair, so it's exactly the same.
If you are enabling the other side then you’re part of the problem. It’s like a dysfunctional family - the enabler of the narcissist is just as a problem as the narcissist themselves.
.....................................the slim probability that he may actually face consequences for something, not to mention whatever ring he's likely running now, being shut the fuck down. That's what it changes. Each period represents how fucking obvious this answer is.
I'd never even heard "Charlie Kirk" until he was assassinated. I knew there was some right-wing talking head that everybody made fun of because he had a tiny face. When Kirk was assassinated, my reaction was "holy shit, he really did have a tiny face."
Fucker Carlson merely got attacked by demons. I guess it was a close thing, the way he went on about it. But doG saved him and told him to spread the gospel of MAGA even more.
Anyone else feels like he's to not human? The whole looks of him creeps me out, with no a single hair out of place, and he has a lot of it, add that to the stickiness and the absolute hate and evil he spews out of his fucken face, The whole combination makes my skin crawl
Nobody cares about his cult anymore. They will go down with the ship, and the world will be a better place without them. His supporters aren't part of the question. I don't mean conservatives who voted for the Republican candidate, I mean the actual cultists who have all his merch, pray to him, etc.
Trump is the only one in the whole shit show that has gained any kind of personal following. There is nobody waiting in the wings and Vance is fucking kryptonite for MAGA because it is obvious he is a tryhard sycophant and they only love belligerent strongmen.
Vance will be much worse in some ways given that he's a full believer in the Yarvinist neomonarchist cult with Thiel, Andreeson, etc., and he's somewhat more competent than trump (which is a low bar).
However, like you said, I think his time will be limited because he can't control the idiot MAGAs like trump can. But the MAGA propaganda machine (Fox, Newsmax, OANN, TPUSA, etc.) will spin up around him and can probably suck in a decent amount of the MAGA cult. So all this to say... we'll see lol
On Tuesday “if” we actually get the Epstein files voted on and released it’s gonna be biblical levels of chaos for trump supporters and I’m fully onboard for it.
..."If"?... Do people just not understand the bare fucking basics of how the government works?
It won't release on Tuesday. Not because of any kind of cover up, but because it's only in the House right now. If on Tuesday the House votes to release it... It goes to the Senate. And they won't vote on it that same day. There is no "if" it releases on Tuesday because there is literally no route for that to happen. And even moving forward, it's extremely unlikely to ever get released this way.
That's why I've been pulling my hair out at all the idiots going "OMG we got the 218 signatures now! They're gonna vote to release it!!1!"
Yea... In the House. Then it goes to the Senate. Then it goes to Trump's desk where he's essentially guaranteed to veto it. Then it goes back to the house who now needs a 2/3rds majority, which they don't have.
That's how fucking bills work. We learned this in fucking grade school with schoolhouse rock. "Oh we have the signatures now!" is completely meaningless. It's like celebrating you won the lottery when all you've done is buy a ticket; you still don't stand a snowballs chance in hell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to say, but I think you're wrong. What they are going to do is not a law; Congress does more and has more authority than just legislate. If I'm not mistaken, the idea is to give a direct order to the Justice Department to release the files; they don't need to go to the Senate or through Trump's office. That's why they're so nervous in the government; otherwise, what would be the point of seeing Trump acting crazy about it?
Lol, it's a bill dude. That's how bills work. The bill is called The Epstein Files Transparency Act. There is nothing special about this bill that would make it go straight from the House to the Justice Department. It still has to go through the Senate and be signed into law by the president before it takes effect.
You fell for the bait. And I get it, you're probably scrambling now, looking up the actual reality of the situation going "No... No, that can't be right... If that was how it worked then all this would be meaningless, and if this is all meaningless then why would every news site and social media board be talking about it as if it wasn't? People would have to be complete, ignorant, fucking idiots for that to be the case..."
Even if they did override the Trump veto, now that he's directed Bondi and the DOJ to investigate only Democrats named in the Epstein leaks, they can easily say that the materials can't be turned over due to an ongoing investigation.
I'm not going to look for anything; you say it with such conviction that I simply believe you. I wasn't sure either, as I already told you, and in any case, we'll all know for sure after the vote.
Anyway, I imagined something like a Senate inquiry committee requesting information from the Department of Justice or something equivalent. I suppose they don't need anyone for that; the DOJ would be obligated to respond to that request, right?
"Duurrrr. He only did all that raping of children to get 'in with the baddies' and then dismantle everything and to 'drain the swamp' from the inside.
It's obvious, when you think about it.
Plus he was only an heejeebaphile, so he wasn't raping pre-teens, like that weirdo hair sniffing sick fuck biden.
Biology has proven for decades that those girls are practically adults by that age!!
If they didn't want it to happen then why were they there?
Also the female body has ways to stop 'proper' rape!!
You guys will believe anything. You just wait, it'll all come out that he was only doing it because he was forced to!"
That ⬆️ is basically a condensed version of what the maggots will be spouting over the next few weeks.
What? It's a leading question. Matthew is trying to get a response to said question which would force someone like Ben Shapiro to admit that the Epstein files are actually bad for Trump a d not a nothing burger like trump would like you to believe. The question implies that Matthew does actually know the same thing we all know, that the files prove trump is a pedophile child molester.
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N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 132 pts · 274d
They spent so much time and effort prepping to act like it’s okay to fuck minors. Now they have to deal with Trump sucking dick.
If it isn’t true, release the files. The same files everyone in Trump’s orbit promised to release before they got appointed to higher positions and saw what was in them.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 274d
I'm really, really hoping it turns out that Jeff's brother was telling the truth when he said it wasn't Bill. You know what Ghislaine's horse was named?
oyo@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 274d
Fun and all, but isn't this the most obvious case of brothers just ribbing each other? Mark's obviously making fun of Jeffrey for playing friends with such a piece of shit (Trump).
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 273d
The only reason I think it's remotely credible is he said "the photos", not like "you think the Russians have a photo of such and such" like one might joke about...he said the photos.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 273d
People acting like families don’t have running jokes.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 273d
Who is acting like that? I explained my reasoning how the phrasing of a running joke would likely be different...
relic__@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
This is by far the most obvious and realistic interpretation.
bassad@jlai.lu · 15 pts · 274d
Why not both? I would not be surprised of Trump sucking a minor's dick.
We already know he is a cheater, lyer, war criminal, and many more, and he is still out there
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 274d
Eh. Trump is so narcissistic, I could not see him doing anything that would bring pleasure to another person.
Bonus@piefed.social · 81 pts · 274d
fin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 273d
Which movie is this? Fight club?
Bonus@piefed.social · 3 pts · 273d
Seven.
fin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 273d
thx!
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 274d
It also raises the obvious question... What's wrong with destroying Trump's presidency?
I had quite a conservative upbringing, and considered myself a conservative when I was a very young adult. But I never would have thought that one person was more important than my own beliefs. We are supposed to live in a representative democracy, where if one politician is disgraced, then you boot him to the curb, and go root around in the trash bin for the next politician. It's not like there's a shortage of politicians.
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 274d
Similar upbringing and path. It's felt terrible to learn so many friends and family don't actually care about policy, democracy or even freedom as much as they want to hate a "liberal" and want their politician to do the same.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 273d
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 60 pts · 274d
Like that time they complained that an anti-nazi graffiti featuring a swastika was anti-MAGA. Oops.
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 274d
So Ben Shapiro knows that Trump is a crook, a pedophile, ... But he's more concerned with keeping those scandals covered up than with seeking justice. Keeping their guy in power is more important than any morality, which demonstrates how amoral the entire usa right wing has become.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 22 pts · 274d
If you seriously believe the US or otherwise right wing was ever moral, I have a perfectly moral strategy to sell you.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 274d
I think it's possible to have small c conservative values and still be a productive and peaceful member of society. Even if I might disagree with their views.
However, I don't know that the American political right has had any genuinely held small c conservative values since Reagan, so
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 13 pts · 274d
Small c conservative values before Reagan were racism and segregation so I'm personally not convinced. I mean if you look at a timeline of American rightwing politics you go from Jim Crow to the Civil Rights Movement and right into Nixon's Southern Strategy. That shit has always been based on racism and slavery.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 274d
There was racism before Reagan?? No way?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 274d
Small c conservatism is specifically about victimizing minority groups. That is not peaceful.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 274d
Seems overly reductive, are we just saying anyone who falls on the right of the political spectrum is non-viable in a polite society?
You might see the irony of that?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 274d
What is polite about telling someone who was born a certain way beyond their choices that they shouldn’t exist? Not every worldview is inherently good or noble. Some are just evil.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 274d
This argument is entirely specious. I didn't say people who think other people shouldn't exist.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 273d
Then how would you define conservatism (I recognize this conversation is getting annoying and if you bail out I won’t hold it against you).
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 274d
I believe that in the past some of them had morals, but that now none of them do.
VM_Abrantes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
Ben was also reminded on September 10th what happens when you stray from the narrative.
hitstun@feddit.online · 54 pts · 274d
What does this change? Before the election, the whole world already knew Trump raped children and 77 million Americans voted for him anyway. It was everywhere. There was no rock large enough that anyone could hide under it and not know that truth. They were OK with this.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 30 pts · 274d
If your only source of news were fox news you probably wouldn't know trump was suspected of being in the files
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 274d
MAGA supporters in Tennessee claimed it was all Democrats in the files. That Trump didn't even know him.
People will believe whatever they want
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 273d
And they will not know that he is in them
They say anybody who says so is lying and they will not read them themselves
Like all the other proofs against trump
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 274d
You are disastrously underestimating the level of ignorance that about 40% of US voters have. So many people genuinely believe he will lower taxes and improve the economy for working class people.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 274d
I, for one, did not have "Trump sucked Bill Clinton's cock" on my bingo card. Who knows what else is there? The truth is wilder than anyone's imagination.
hitstun@feddit.online · 2 pts · 273d
OK, yeah. I didn't see that one coming. Bubba isn't confirmed to be Bill Clinton, but if true, I wonder how many of Trump's bigoted fan base will finally ditch him for being bisexual, of all things.
tym@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 273d
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 273d
The only thing that I can think of is that this is particularly personal to Trump and he doesn't want his twisted private life getting out, regardless of how little it really matters to his base.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 274d
Ditto. I have no idea why the Epstein list has been such a focus.. instead of the actual problems. But then again, it’s not like the d’s want to fix anything either. It’s a distraction.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 274d
The Epstein files are such a big thing because releasing them was a major part of Trump's campaign and calling their opponents and people they don't like pedophiles is a big Republican tactic (it's part of the "think of the children!" tactic they love to use). He made a huge stink about how all the politicians in Washington were in the files and that's why they wouldn't release them, and that when he became President, he'd release them and show the whole country how we're being led by a bunch of pedophiles (with some implied "that's why they support LGBTQ people" thrown in there).
He created an entire cult who care only about the ring of Jewish pedophiles who secretly run the world or whatever, and they made it their entire personality. Their glorious leader actually being one of the people listed in there would crack a foundational pillar of their worldview. I'd say "if they even believe that it's true and not a liberal lie", but Republicans are doing a damn good job of openly stating that he is definitely in there and that's why they won't release them.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
He also promised us lower costs and instead gave us tariffs. That should be the focus not the Epstein files which won’t affect anything.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 273d
It should be, but that's not what Republicans care about. They care about hurting people - especially leftists and minorities. And Trump promised that the Epstein files would hurt Democrats. Anything else they can justify away as being the fault of Democrats somehow.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 274d
Yeah, it's just your bog standard destroy the constitution, crash the economy, betray the allies, suck up to the dictators, rape the children, grab 'em by the pussy, suspend the right to trial, presidential personal thug army in masks abducting the less pale citizens, suspension of the right to trial, concrete over Gaza to make a theme park investment opportunity, armed insurrection storming the Capitol, defiance of budget rules, starve the poor, mass disenfranchisement of black districts, classified documents to russia 44 times felony presidency.
Absolutely standard. Just like the dems always do. Both sides, both sides. They're the same picture. Absolutely nothing to see here, situation normal. Biden kissed a girls hair, so it's exactly the same.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
If you are enabling the other side then you’re part of the problem. It’s like a dysfunctional family - the enabler of the narcissist is just as a problem as the narcissist themselves.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
Yes, yes, EXACTLY the same, just like you said.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
.....................................the slim probability that he may actually face consequences for something, not to mention whatever ring he's likely running now, being shut the fuck down. That's what it changes. Each period represents how fucking obvious this answer is.
Flickerby@lemmy.zip · 47 pts · 274d
"Pedophiles are okay so long as they're on my side" I sure hope his advertisers know what message they're supporting.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 274d
Don't these shows mostly just advertise doomsday prepper shit?
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 274d
I thought Shapiro died?
Edit: wait or was that Carlson?
duckythescientist@lemmy.sdf.org · 35 pts · 274d
You may be thinking of Charlie Kirk who was assassinated a couple months ago. Shapiro and Carlson are both alive as far as I've heard.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 274d
Oh yeah, you’re right. They kinda all blend together tbh, no joke.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 274d
I'd never even heard "Charlie Kirk" until he was assassinated. I knew there was some right-wing talking head that everybody made fun of because he had a tiny face. When Kirk was assassinated, my reaction was "holy shit, he really did have a tiny face."
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 274d
Fascist smoke. Don't breathe this!
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 274d
Well, they're dead inside. But I don't think that technically counts.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 13 pts · 274d
Fucker Carlson merely got attacked by demons. I guess it was a close thing, the way he went on about it. But doG saved him and told him to spread the gospel of MAGA even more.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 7 pts · 274d
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 3 pts · 274d
Don't leak the script.
kurikai@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 274d
Honestly I thought the same thing, hold on... isn't this guy dead?
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 274d
Ben, your slip is showing.
Shamber@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 274d
Anyone else feels like he's to not human? The whole looks of him creeps me out, with no a single hair out of place, and he has a lot of it, add that to the stickiness and the absolute hate and evil he spews out of his fucken face, The whole combination makes my skin crawl
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 274d
I know the pain you feel and I recommend watching Majority Report videos that make fun of Ben Shapiro as a balm for it.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 274d
no doubt he's on the spectrum, spectrum doesn't make you a ghoul like him, but lots of his mannerism and tone are from autism.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 273d
Fuentes, Carlson, and Shapiro all give off massive power bottom energy, and are clearly really fucking uptight and in denial about it.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 273d
Fuentes getting asked by Carlson why he hasn't gotten married yet, and Fuentes saying "it's the women, honestly."
Come ON people. Talk about a glass closet.
zd9@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 274d
We can only hope it ruins his presidency, along with about a dozen others. I don't care what political party they're in.
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social · 4 pts · 274d
His supporters will defend it somehow. Probably.
zd9@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
Nobody cares about his cult anymore. They will go down with the ship, and the world will be a better place without them. His supporters aren't part of the question. I don't mean conservatives who voted for the Republican candidate, I mean the actual cultists who have all his merch, pray to him, etc.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 273d
0x0@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 273d
I think they did.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 274d
If it does ruin his presidency, that just puts Peter Thiel's creature into the Oval Office.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 274d
Yeah but will MAGA coalesce around Vance? Dude has the charisma of a wet paper bag.
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 274d
Trump is the only one in the whole shit show that has gained any kind of personal following. There is nobody waiting in the wings and Vance is fucking kryptonite for MAGA because it is obvious he is a tryhard sycophant and they only love belligerent strongmen.
zd9@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 274d
Vance will be much worse in some ways given that he's a full believer in the Yarvinist neomonarchist cult with Thiel, Andreeson, etc., and he's somewhat more competent than trump (which is a low bar).
However, like you said, I think his time will be limited because he can't control the idiot MAGAs like trump can. But the MAGA propaganda machine (Fox, Newsmax, OANN, TPUSA, etc.) will spin up around him and can probably suck in a decent amount of the MAGA cult. So all this to say... we'll see lol
Themightybooshfan420@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 274d
About fucking time let's hope they will
0x0@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 273d
They have.
NewDark@lemmings.world · 15 pts · 274d
Rare Matty W
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 274d
Extremely rare, but I'll give him this one
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 274d
On Tuesday “if” we actually get the Epstein files voted on and released it’s gonna be biblical levels of chaos for trump supporters and I’m fully onboard for it.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 274d
..."If"?... Do people just not understand the bare fucking basics of how the government works?
It won't release on Tuesday. Not because of any kind of cover up, but because it's only in the House right now. If on Tuesday the House votes to release it... It goes to the Senate. And they won't vote on it that same day. There is no "if" it releases on Tuesday because there is literally no route for that to happen. And even moving forward, it's extremely unlikely to ever get released this way.
That's why I've been pulling my hair out at all the idiots going "OMG we got the 218 signatures now! They're gonna vote to release it!!1!"
Yea... In the House. Then it goes to the Senate. Then it goes to Trump's desk where he's essentially guaranteed to veto it. Then it goes back to the house who now needs a 2/3rds majority, which they don't have.
That's how fucking bills work. We learned this in fucking grade school with schoolhouse rock. "Oh we have the signatures now!" is completely meaningless. It's like celebrating you won the lottery when all you've done is buy a ticket; you still don't stand a snowballs chance in hell.
Foni@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 274d
I'm not sure what I'm going to say, but I think you're wrong. What they are going to do is not a law; Congress does more and has more authority than just legislate. If I'm not mistaken, the idea is to give a direct order to the Justice Department to release the files; they don't need to go to the Senate or through Trump's office. That's why they're so nervous in the government; otherwise, what would be the point of seeing Trump acting crazy about it?
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 274d
Lol, it's a bill dude. That's how bills work. The bill is called The Epstein Files Transparency Act. There is nothing special about this bill that would make it go straight from the House to the Justice Department. It still has to go through the Senate and be signed into law by the president before it takes effect.
You fell for the bait. And I get it, you're probably scrambling now, looking up the actual reality of the situation going "No... No, that can't be right... If that was how it worked then all this would be meaningless, and if this is all meaningless then why would every news site and social media board be talking about it as if it wasn't? People would have to be complete, ignorant, fucking idiots for that to be the case..."
And now you know why I'm going bald.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 6 pts · 274d
With how baldness-inducing this mess is even from the other side of the world, I express my sincere condolences for your hairline.
Hominine@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 274d
Even if they did override the Trump veto, now that he's directed Bondi and the DOJ to investigate only Democrats named in the Epstein leaks, they can easily say that the materials can't be turned over due to an ongoing investigation.
Foni@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 274d
I'm not going to look for anything; you say it with such conviction that I simply believe you. I wasn't sure either, as I already told you, and in any case, we'll all know for sure after the vote.
Anyway, I imagined something like a Senate inquiry committee requesting information from the Department of Justice or something equivalent. I suppose they don't need anyone for that; the DOJ would be obligated to respond to that request, right?
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 274d
Vibe-arguing is a bonkers debate tactic, I like it
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 274d
"The girls weren't THAT young, and besides, all the documents are fake, altered by the liberals".
About how I think it'll go.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 274d
"That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault. <--- we're here
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it."
Wiz@midwest.social · 1 pts · 273d
And if I did a blowjob, it wasn't that good.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 274d
"Duurrrr. He only did all that raping of children to get 'in with the baddies' and then dismantle everything and to 'drain the swamp' from the inside.
It's obvious, when you think about it.
Plus he was only an heejeebaphile, so he wasn't raping pre-teens, like that weirdo hair sniffing sick fuck biden.
Biology has proven for decades that those girls are practically adults by that age!!
If they didn't want it to happen then why were they there?
Also the female body has ways to stop 'proper' rape!!
You guys will believe anything. You just wait, it'll all come out that he was only doing it because he was forced to!"
That ⬆️ is basically a condensed version of what the maggots will be spouting over the next few weeks.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 273d
Here you go.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 274d
Saying the quiet part out loud.
tym@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 273d
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 274d
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 274d
What? It's a leading question. Matthew is trying to get a response to said question which would force someone like Ben Shapiro to admit that the Epstein files are actually bad for Trump a d not a nothing burger like trump would like you to believe. The question implies that Matthew does actually know the same thing we all know, that the files prove trump is a pedophile child molester.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 274d
I'm sorry I deleted my comment, but I do want to answer you. Epstein is very bad for trump, and rightly so. But what do I need to respond to?