F1: let's pave over the green space with asphalt ( petroleum) and run cars that shed tire rubber (petroleum) and sometimes leak engine oil until the surrounding land is dangerously contaminated.

FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 18 pts · 305d (14 replies)

Golf uses a fuck ton of water and land. It's not great either.

IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 305d (6 replies)

Both of those may not be a big concern, depending on the situation.

Land availability in North America is not really a concern; there's a shit ton of land available. When cities expand and the golf course's land value goes way up, the course tends to get sold off.

Water use also is a case of "it depends". If the the course is using aquifer water, yes that's a big problem. Many, if not most, don't use aquifer water. In the wetter climates, most are using water pumped from rainwater fed holding ponds, or other lakes, rivers, etc on the property. Even in Arizona, most courses are using treated grey water, keeping them from contributing to any water shortages.

snooggums@piefed.world · 5 pts · 305d (4 replies)

When cities expand and the golf course's land value goes way up, the course tends to get sold off.

Do they? All the courses that I remember being on the edge of towns and cities just had the city grow around them as the increase in customers made up for the increased ownership costs.

IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 305d (1 reply)

And all the courses I remember being on the edge of towns and cities got sold as the land value became way higher than than the profit margin ever could be.

snooggums@piefed.world · 1 pts · 304d

I do live in the central US where there is always more room, so maybe it doesn't drive up the land costs enough.

Quasit@kolektiva.social · 0 pts · 305d (1 reply)

@snooggums @IrateAnteater

This seems apropos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1-axqBZdNk

snooggums@piefed.world · 1 pts · 305d

It absolutely is.

Fantastic movie.

apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d

None of that is as concerning to me as the ecological disaster that is a golf course. It is equally detrimental to ecological systems as any other human development.

apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d

And native plant and animal diversity is zilch, so contributes to habitat loss and exterpation of species, especially insects and bugs.

pyria@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 305d (2 replies)

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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d (1 reply)

but both are equally bad.

Asphalt, petrol, oil, and tires are equally bad to watering grass so old men can drive electric carts around?

Ledivin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d

Golf courses are estimated to take up ~0.1% of all US land. Yes, a square mile of F1 track is worse than a square mile of golf course, but we're talking probably 1000x difference in scale.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d (1 reply)

I didn't say it was great. It's just an odd one to single out when there are sports that are far worse.

apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d

This isn't a time for whataboutism. He has a Titleist hat on, not an F1 hat.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 304d

its a ton of fertilizer and herbicides as well.

Ledivin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d

Ehhhh, I honestly think golf is worse. How many F1 tracks are there, and how many golf courses? Yes, F1 might be worse for each instance, but I bet golf takes up something like 100-1000x more usable space. Factor in the water reqs and it's probably not even that close in terma of environmental impact?

frank@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 304d (1 reply)

Of all of the sports to make fun of, surely, surely NASCAR or something is lower hanging fruit.

F1 has had some pretty neat innovation actually come to road cars in the past decades and has some amount of continued materials engineering that's fairly cutting edge. Also, of all the things to make fun of, leaking oil is really infrequent. Just for the fun fact, the engine-on time of an F1 car has less emissions per year than a one way flight from NY to London

It isn't great for the environment of course, but it's just a funny one when there's a LOT better things to rip on.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d

Well sure Nascar. F1 was the first motorsport that came to mind.

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d

Unfortunately a field of untouched native vegetation is not an option for most of the spaces where golf courses are. I'd rather let them play on grass than have yet another parking lot.

dumbass@piefed.social · 18 pts · 305d (1 reply)

People gotta start letting god kill their children again!

RePsyche@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 305d

It’s what the lord desires most.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 12 pts · 305d (1 reply)

Found the nurgle cultist

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d

Hey, he's the god of medicine as well as disease. It's his wife that this guy really is just dying to bring people to.

wuffah@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 305d

It follows that the magical thinking of vaccine conspiracy attracts the religious.

tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d

I’d happily help him meet god.

Kintarian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d (2 replies)

I wonder. If none of them get vaccinated and the rest of us do, will they die off so we don't have to listen to them anymore?

Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d (1 reply)

That's not how herd immunity works, so the unvaxxed will inadvertly kill off the vaxxed as well

Kintarian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d

Well. That sucks.

Harvey656@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d (1 reply)

Why does this pastor look like every dude ever i purchased weed from 10 years ago?

dustyData@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d

He looks like the guy who hanged out outside high school even though he graduated 5 years ago.