There is a German lullaby with the line "tomorrow morning, if God wants, you will wake up again" and quite a number of kids worried "what if He doesn't?"
have you had kids? "and if you die before you sleep AND YOU BETTER SLEEP YOU LITTLE SHITS i pray the lord take your soul (because no one else wants it. i can tell)" is a fairly common sleep-deprived emotion
That's why Metallica put it in their song "Enter Sandman", which Motörhead later covered (I'm only saying that because I like the Motorhead version better)
Used to say that as a kid. Catholicism is a fear thing. I don't think much of it. I don't think it's particularly bad, just hey, if I choke on air tonight, bring me to the promised land! Unfortunately, this is it.
This is even darker! The one I quoted is arguably just a filler to get enough syllables for the line. Depending on your image of God, it's just "of cause he does". Your version elaborates on the idea much more
@lugal@EfreetSK child mortality rates were pretty fucking high in earlier times. Around the time the original poem was published 40-50% of children under 15 died.
Only vaccines and modern medicine put this down to 4.2% globally in 2022, with the most developed countries reaching 0.3%
This seems to be a mistranslation, because in German, “wenn” can mean both “if” and “when”, but it’s actually closer to “when”. If you really mean “if”, you use “falls” instead of “wenn”.
So the intended meaning is in fact "tomorrow morning, when God wants it (ie. at the time God wants it), you will wake up again"
I honestly never thought about it that way. It wasn't sung to me when I was little and I only know it from people who misunderstood it. But it's not closer to "when". It's the default for both. You can disambiguate it to "falls" or "sobald" but "wenn" is in both contexts the most common word.
I can’t argue with that, because the German “wenn” is definitely more ambiguous than the English “when”, but since it’s a lullaby, you kinda have to assume that perhaps it’s leaning more on the positive side, because who on earth would want their baby to die in their sleep?
If Germans really were this cruel, they would have been wiped off the face of the earth a long time ago.
because who on earth would want their baby to die in their sleep?
actually, this exact thought was really calming to me when i was a kid (yes, the song was sung to me too):
if i die, at least i die in my sleep, where i wouldn't really be aware of it anyways, so i don't have to care about it. it's like, every human has to die sometime, but at least it can be in your sleep. and there's nothing you can do about it either, so you don't have to worry about it.
Well, another datapoint on "how cruel are Germans towards their children" is the Struwwelpeter story collection. Like, children get their thumbs cut off for sucking it or starving for not eating their soup etc.
So, I lean towards "if". And, honestly, I remember understanding it like that as child 😅
Since the song is quite old and "when" is the older meaning, there is a point to make about the intended meaning. What I took issue with was calling it a mistranslation and at least by now I think we agree it's not
It's taking a song to an unintended implication. "All I want for Christmas is you" implies how important you are, not that you aren't much. And the German lullaby implies that God will wake you up, not that he might decide not to. Another commenter pointed out that "if" could also be "when" so God will wake you when he sees fit.
Yeah, I stopped caring for outside validation, funny enough. I just assume people want to undermine my mental health more, and that everything is rigged. So, I literally don't care for any opinion except my own, and any progress except how much I follow my schedule.
Don't listen to her Santa! All I want for Christmas is tits! And world pace and for ruzzian to become a nation of underwater basket weevers thar follows international laws including staying in their country and not invading others. But don't forget! Tits please!
i used to hate this song and it was a long as streak of like 10 years. idk if its because shits fucked this year but this song is actually good. I genuinely wish i knew more of her other songs.
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lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 94 pts · 271d
There is a German lullaby with the line "tomorrow morning, if God wants, you will wake up again" and quite a number of kids worried "what if He doesn't?"
brsrklf@jlai.lu · 43 pts · 271d
That's honestly a terrifying idea to put in a kid's brain before they go to sleep.
Lembot_0005@lemy.lol · 33 pts · 271d
The concept of most religions is absolute obedience and absence of curiosity. This " terrifying idea" is an excellent tool to form the needed mindset.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 271d
He said it was German
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 270d
have you had kids? "and if you die before you sleep AND YOU BETTER SLEEP YOU LITTLE SHITS i pray the lord take your soul (because no one else wants it. i can tell)" is a fairly common sleep-deprived emotion
LordAmplifier@pawb.social · 35 pts · 271d
Isn't that a thing in English, too?
Still pretty messed up.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe · 17 pts · 271d
That's pretty metal, heh
LordAmplifier@pawb.social · 13 pts · 271d
That's why Metallica put it in their song "Enter Sandman", which Motörhead later covered (I'm only saying that because I like the Motorhead version better)
rockerface@lemmy.cafe · 8 pts · 271d
That was the reference I was making, yeah
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 271d
I like the Funktallica version
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social · 1 pts · 270d
That sounds interesting, you got a link?
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 270d
https://youtube.com/@conhuir
He funks up a bunch of metal bands, it's good stuff
bramkaandorp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 269d
It's AI though, which to some people is probably fine, but I can't unhear the uncanny valley.
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social · 2 pts · 270d
Ah that’s great thanks!
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 8 pts · 271d
Literally. Metallica used this in their Enter the Sandman song.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
Used to say that as a kid. Catholicism is a fear thing. I don't think much of it. I don't think it's particularly bad, just hey, if I choke on air tonight, bring me to the promised land! Unfortunately, this is it.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 271d
This is even darker! The one I quoted is arguably just a filler to get enough syllables for the line. Depending on your image of God, it's just "of cause he does". Your version elaborates on the idea much more
kyonshi@dice.camp · 8 pts · 271d
@lugal @EfreetSK child mortality rates were pretty fucking high in earlier times. Around the time the original poem was published 40-50% of children under 15 died.
Only vaccines and modern medicine put this down to 4.2% globally in 2022, with the most developed countries reaching 0.3%
That is to say... that poem had a point.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 270d
yup. childhood mortality was so high that average lifespan was 40-ish years, but life expectancy at age 20 would be 60-70 years old.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 271d
This seems to be a mistranslation, because in German, “wenn” can mean both “if” and “when”, but it’s actually closer to “when”. If you really mean “if”, you use “falls” instead of “wenn”.
So the intended meaning is in fact "tomorrow morning, when God wants it (ie. at the time God wants it), you will wake up again"
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 270d
I honestly never thought about it that way. It wasn't sung to me when I was little and I only know it from people who misunderstood it. But it's not closer to "when". It's the default for both. You can disambiguate it to "falls" or "sobald" but "wenn" is in both contexts the most common word.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 270d
I can’t argue with that, because the German “wenn” is definitely more ambiguous than the English “when”, but since it’s a lullaby, you kinda have to assume that perhaps it’s leaning more on the positive side, because who on earth would want their baby to die in their sleep?
If Germans really were this cruel, they would have been wiped off the face of the earth a long time ago.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 270d
actually, this exact thought was really calming to me when i was a kid (yes, the song was sung to me too):
if i die, at least i die in my sleep, where i wouldn't really be aware of it anyways, so i don't have to care about it. it's like, every human has to die sometime, but at least it can be in your sleep. and there's nothing you can do about it either, so you don't have to worry about it.
kossa@feddit.org · 1 pts · 270d
Well, another datapoint on "how cruel are Germans towards their children" is the Struwwelpeter story collection. Like, children get their thumbs cut off for sucking it or starving for not eating their soup etc.
So, I lean towards "if". And, honestly, I remember understanding it like that as child 😅
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 270d
Since the song is quite old and "when" is the older meaning, there is a point to make about the intended meaning. What I took issue with was calling it a mistranslation and at least by now I think we agree it's not
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 270d
i think "wenn" is indeed translated as if, while "wann" is translated as when
or maybe people use the same word differently, i'm not sure
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
With music composed by Brahms.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 270d
i don't see in the slightest how that is related to the post?
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 270d
It's taking a song to an unintended implication. "All I want for Christmas is you" implies how important you are, not that you aren't much. And the German lullaby implies that God will wake you up, not that he might decide not to. Another commenter pointed out that "if" could also be "when" so God will wake you when he sees fit.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 269d
aaaaaaaaaaaaah i got it (i think)
Acidbath@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 269d
why is it that germany produces the wierdest stuff for kids like isnt there a kids show thats just a grumpy bread loaf wishing he could die?
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 269d
Bernd das Brot doesn't want to die. He just wants to be left alone and likes ingrain wallpaper
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 2 pts · 271d
I grew up during the Cold War, close enough to NYC that if it was bombed, I’d be fried. So this sentiment definitely had real meaning as a kid.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 271d
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 270d
Nerd!
(I am too, so.... Uhh... Hi)
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 270d
Thanks, first thing to pop into my mind.
n0respect@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
I don't want it either tbh
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 46 pts · 271d
This is how your brain works when you've got low self esteem
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 11 pts · 271d
It's also a humorous take if you have healthy self-esteem.
Though you do make a good point.
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 271d
You're not wrong it's absolutely still funny
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 271d
Yeah, I stopped caring for outside validation, funny enough. I just assume people want to undermine my mental health more, and that everything is rigged. So, I literally don't care for any opinion except my own, and any progress except how much I follow my schedule.
WagnasT@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 271d
Some people are a lot, I don't want them.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 12 pts · 271d
If she wants everyone hearing the song, and she thinks that's not a lot, there might be no boundary to her greed
BambiDiego@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 271d
M'ar'ia Careigh the Greedy, Patron goddess of Song and Pagan Gifting.
Derives her power from retail worship, and every year becomes stronger and stronger.
Soon her greed threatens to devour not just the Turkey, but All Hallows Eve
ripcord@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 271d
She thinks you are not many things. She just wants one thing.
It is a comment on complexity+quantity of what she wants, not significance.
Gosh!
dudinax@programming.dev · 1 pts · 271d
The Buddha would disagree.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 270d
That's encouraging.
All of my exes told me I was a lot, shortly before dumping me.
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 270d
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 270d
For anyone looking for refuge: LIDL doesn't play music in their stores. No one knows why, but enjoy it
elbiter@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 270d
They do in Spain. Rot-tot-tot-tom. Rot-tot-tot-tom.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 270d
Aw. Sorry.
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
Aldi doesn’t either in the US.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 271d
She doesn't want a lot for Christmas.
Except poor people to stop complaining about the economic crisis preventing them from buying Sephora bullshit and protesting capitalism.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 7 pts · 270d
I'm not a lot.
I'm Kenough.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 271d
I mean, fair.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
But if anyone of us showed up to her house wrapped I bet she’d say different
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 271d
She's right tho...
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
She's trying to be cute and sarcastic.
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 270d
altphoto@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 271d
Don't listen to her Santa! All I want for Christmas is tits! And world pace and for ruzzian to become a nation of underwater basket weevers thar follows international laws including staying in their country and not invading others. But don't forget! Tits please!
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 269d
SHE'S DEFROSTING AGAIN!!!
toeblast96@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 270d
i cant lie i fw this song. it use to be my fav xmas song
Acidbath@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 269d
i used to hate this song and it was a long as streak of like 10 years. idk if its because shits fucked this year but this song is actually good. I genuinely wish i knew more of her other songs.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 2 pts · 271d
At the end of the year your get character 13, Carey Return.
Swaus01@piefed.social · 1 pts · 271d
Mariah thinks she could gobble me up in one go and still have room for Christmas Dinner 😀👍