capitalism, or at least the flavour we enjoy in “the west”, needs continued increases in profit and growth or baby Jesus will cry or something.
The easiest way to do that is by increasing population. Most of the countries that have actually benefited from capitalism over the last 80 years are now seeing declining populations (or at least working populations) as the desperation to funnel wealth upwards makes the idea of starting a family unpalatable.
This is why “wealthy” capitalist counties are all importing migrants at unprecedented rates. However this upsets the nationalism that goes hand in hand with exploitative capitalism as they don’t want to “lose their country” to the very people propping it up.
Not really. Without the need for upward trending squiggly lines to justify CEO’s next pay increase or predatory institutions looking to buy up any business that doesn’t show growth every quarter and break it up for parts companies can quite easily scale back when demand shrinks.
It’s unthinkable to us because we pray at the alter of the shareholder but there are millions of small businesses that maintain steady profitability (with little growth) over the life of the owner. Or are even scaled back when needed (market issues, owner lifestyle changes) and then scaled up again when it is desirable.
A business that is allowed to have other goals other than increased profit growth no matter what can provide jobs, goods and still a regular profit in all types of markets. If the population shrinks then the company shrinks. And why shouldn’t it? There are less people to sell too and less people looking for employment.
Honestly main unethical part is that there are the alternatives "making it cheaper to raise children" or "needing less households where both parents have to work full-time" yet we debate this.
It's terrifying how many comments seems to be supporting this terrifying suggestion as a viable option. For anyone wondering. Thing is, if a brain is dead, the body starts to rot, a lot of the functions your brain does, keep the body not rotting. When your brain dies and your body starts rotting, medicine can hit your corpse with some hard drugs to delay the rot a little, but they're not compatible with growing a fertilised egg to maturity. What the absolute fuck.
Yall just come up with any crap and blame capitalism. I know yall dont want to hear this, but thats why things are as good as theg are. And things are better than they have ever been in history. More people have access to modern medicine than ever, we send mercy ships around the world to provide Healthcare to the poorest. Christians.
Anyway... things are no where near perfect, and they never will he because we are imperfect humans. Anyhoo...
We're looking at between 200 million and 2 billion dead over the next 20 years due to climate collapse. Things are better than they ever have been? My brother in Christ, we are on the eve of what future historians will call "The Great Hunger."
I would still take this over living in a shit hut during the Dark Ages. Or dying from a small infection because no one knows what germ theory is. Or watching 6 year old girls getting sold for marriage to old men. Or not being able to read, nor even knowing anyone who can. Or live in a world without anti-parasitic drugs.
TBf this might be a great idea. This protects wanting mothers from the harm done by pregnancy. Why is this bad? It's weird. Sure. And I guess you might claim benefit from being lugged around by your mother while you can start to feel and hear people.
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tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 45 pts · 271d
I’m not sure how this has to do with capitalism
tuff_wizard@aussie.zone · 27 pts · 271d
capitalism, or at least the flavour we enjoy in “the west”, needs continued increases in profit and growth or baby Jesus will cry or something.
The easiest way to do that is by increasing population. Most of the countries that have actually benefited from capitalism over the last 80 years are now seeing declining populations (or at least working populations) as the desperation to funnel wealth upwards makes the idea of starting a family unpalatable.
This is why “wealthy” capitalist counties are all importing migrants at unprecedented rates. However this upsets the nationalism that goes hand in hand with exploitative capitalism as they don’t want to “lose their country” to the very people propping it up.
The next logical step is brain dead baby makers.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 271d
It’s a weak joke. They should have mentioned selling the womb, which is definitely not implied. Low effort tankie bs
GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 270d
"The next logical step is brain dead baby makers"
I thought those were conservatives
mika_mika@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
Don't you bring baby Jesus into this. 8 pound 4 oz Jesus has nothing to do with this.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 270d
tuff_wizard@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 270d
Not really. Without the need for upward trending squiggly lines to justify CEO’s next pay increase or predatory institutions looking to buy up any business that doesn’t show growth every quarter and break it up for parts companies can quite easily scale back when demand shrinks.
It’s unthinkable to us because we pray at the alter of the shareholder but there are millions of small businesses that maintain steady profitability (with little growth) over the life of the owner. Or are even scaled back when needed (market issues, owner lifestyle changes) and then scaled up again when it is desirable.
A business that is allowed to have other goals other than increased profit growth no matter what can provide jobs, goods and still a regular profit in all types of markets. If the population shrinks then the company shrinks. And why shouldn’t it? There are less people to sell too and less people looking for employment.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 270d
Are you fucking high?
Because I'm tripping on three solid hits of acid and 300mg of THC trying to be as baroquely fucking stupid as that statement.
Tell me what you're high on. I want to be a winner.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 270d
shalafi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 271d
It's a lemmy thing.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 271d
Gotcha. Sometimes I forget 😅
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 271d
Capitalism is when bad things happen. Don't you know that self-serving hierarchies never formed under any other system?
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 270d
When self-serving hierarchies form under other systems it's because The CIA Did It.
you_are_dust@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 271d
This is part of the plot of Death Stranding. We're gonna have oil ghosts soon.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 271d
Yes, sure, and cannibalism solves overpopulation and starvation in one easy step....
Doesn't make it a good idea.
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 271d
Eating the rich sure looks tempting
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 270d
Naww. Let's mulch them, make good food from their otherwise useless bodies.
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 270d
Good meat going to waste, it got all that plastic in it ! Yummy
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 271d
Honestly don't have a problem with this if there was prior consent in a living will. I could see a lot of people willing to sign up for this.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 270d
Honestly main unethical part is that there are the alternatives "making it cheaper to raise children" or "needing less households where both parents have to work full-time" yet we debate this.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 270d
It's terrifying how many comments seems to be supporting this terrifying suggestion as a viable option. For anyone wondering. Thing is, if a brain is dead, the body starts to rot, a lot of the functions your brain does, keep the body not rotting. When your brain dies and your body starts rotting, medicine can hit your corpse with some hard drugs to delay the rot a little, but they're not compatible with growing a fertilised egg to maturity. What the absolute fuck.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 271d
My name is Buck, something something
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
Yes, Alotl tanks are the endstate of capitalism.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 270d
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 270d
Tbf the idea people think of that instead of better work-life-balance and free school lunches is studiable.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 270d
The christofascism definitely has a billionaire's dick in its mouth.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 270d
billwashere@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 270d
Why does this sound like Death Stranding…
weariedfae@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 270d
Technically it's Dune.
Look up axlotl tanks.
Sv443@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 270d
Time to move into a lone shelter in the woods and wait until all cities randomly explode
Goretantath@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 271d
Suggests? They literally did that already.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 271d
Feels really good to be infertile right about now
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 270d
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Daemonculaba
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 270d
I think they did that in one of the Dune spinoffs
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 270d
weariedfae@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 270d
Yes, they're called axlotl tanks.
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 271d
Lower the cost of IVF not this buffoonery.
Artisian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
IVF helps a subset of the folks that this would help; not everybody has a spare uterus lying around.
Gladaed@feddit.org · 3 pts · 270d
Pretty sure the cost of IVF is not due to malice but actual costs. Just cutting prices might not work in reality.
stray@pawb.social · 2 pts · 271d
Why make worthless babies when we can use them to manufacture spice?
weariedfae@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 270d
This guy gets it.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 270d
O brave new world
seatwiggy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 270d
The Foundation eats babies
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/the-foundation-eats-babies
Dingleberrydipndots@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 270d
So, how is this a capitalism issue?
Yall just come up with any crap and blame capitalism. I know yall dont want to hear this, but thats why things are as good as theg are. And things are better than they have ever been in history. More people have access to modern medicine than ever, we send mercy ships around the world to provide Healthcare to the poorest. Christians.
Anyway... things are no where near perfect, and they never will he because we are imperfect humans. Anyhoo...
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 270d
We're looking at between 200 million and 2 billion dead over the next 20 years due to climate collapse. Things are better than they ever have been? My brother in Christ, we are on the eve of what future historians will call "The Great Hunger."
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 270d
I would still take this over living in a shit hut during the Dark Ages. Or dying from a small infection because no one knows what germ theory is. Or watching 6 year old girls getting sold for marriage to old men. Or not being able to read, nor even knowing anyone who can. Or live in a world without anti-parasitic drugs.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 269d
Capitalism is when the scientific method exists and human knowledge has accumulated after all
The Wealth of Nations literally just says "Let Newton do it lol" that's it, that's the whole book
Gladaed@feddit.org · -15 pts · 270d
TBf this might be a great idea. This protects wanting mothers from the harm done by pregnancy. Why is this bad? It's weird. Sure. And I guess you might claim benefit from being lugged around by your mother while you can start to feel and hear people.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 270d
ah, yes, let's rape comotose women and force them through pregnancy to expand the population beyond necessary
FridaySteve@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
For starters, it doesn't work. It can't.