A) bring back third spaces where people can meet up and socialize without money. Decent wages so people have free time. Unions so people have breaks and rights. Walkable cities where you can run into another person and have a chat without being run over by a car.
B) authoritarian police state where porn is banned but the government has 10gb of photos of your genitals and sells it to advertisers who send you coupons for diapers when you fuck.
I only ever saw it as controlling the spread of the horrific and anti-human terrorist philosophy of “believing the mass internment and murder of Palestinians is not a good thing actually”
Nah I disagree. They don’t care about anything specific so long as the population of sheep is robust. They need to shear at their leisure.
They don’t actually care what the sheep do, who the sheep fuck or who fucks the sheep. They are just sheep. There isn’t a moral component at all. It’s a sham to get the sheep signed on.
Capitalists see themselves as a different species.
I mean, Thanos’ plan may have been popular if he used the infinity stones to reward mothers for limiting their children, using societal pressure and other tools to limit populations for a generation.
He just had to convince males to not fuck with their cum active (e.g. doing vasectomy and reverse it as time comes). This would make hormones of women less fucked with, and male people would learn that it is not “she is just being woman”, but realise it was fucking hormone engineering.
🫣 but how should males learn that in a society where sexual education is shown as evil (like yea, we changed everything on this world and teach our children anything, but o noo please don’t tell them how reproduction works, so they just try something out and are fucked for live).
Same goes for drugs, if you just ban and say it is evil rather than why, you will always have bad experiences and shady cycles around drugs.
Whenever population control is mentioned, this inevitably comes up. No, not looking to "remove" anyone, just prevent more births than the natural environment can handle.
Isn’t there a book with such a story that they investigate some dangerous bomb thingy that turns out to just make about half the population not able to have babies?
I think they made a movie which sucks out of it
I think it is the same writer as has written davinci code
Just give incentives to voluntarily have less kids. Heck, even just education, high wages, and social mobility (particularly for women) typically drops the birth rate at or under 1 child anyway.
Better ensure perfect women/men equality before doing that, otherwise it leads to a big gender disbalance and high infanticide rate for girls, as was demonstrated in China.
Literally hundreds of studies showing that if people can buy a house before they're 40, they will have more children.
You can't legislate your way into a higher birth rate. Even authoritarian countries have tried and failed. But you can legislate systemic changes that help people with housing, childcare, and groceries.
So fuck the youn g generation even harder? You think what? The old which will continue to outnumber them, won't fuck over the younger generation because they can't outvote them?
If the "cycle" breaks, the young get turbo fucked. Either you somehow offload the old dependables or you meet the demand. No one in their right mind wants to cull the elderly.
Noett suggesting we cull the elderly, but what's being in our right mind gonna do for us? The enemy is fucking insane, may as well fight fire with fire. Let's have a left that isn't passive yeah
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Fedizen@lemmy.world · 88 pts · 293d
A) bring back third spaces where people can meet up and socialize without money. Decent wages so people have free time. Unions so people have breaks and rights. Walkable cities where you can run into another person and have a chat without being run over by a car.
B) authoritarian police state where porn is banned but the government has 10gb of photos of your genitals and sells it to advertisers who send you coupons for diapers when you fuck.
reev@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 293d
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 292d
....what are the diapers for?
...and why are they only sold to you when you fuck?
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 292d
I think he's referring to invasive unethical marketing shenanigans like this
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
This is exactly what I was talking about, and its crazy this was 13 years ago.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 292d
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 292d
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 292d
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
I vote Fedizen for President/King/ Ruler of Everything.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
I promise to be only the most mediocre tyrant.
obinice@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 293d
That's not why they're doing it, they want to tightly control and track what everyone does, limit their freedoms and so on. But yeah.
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 22 pts · 293d
Shit starts getting real when they start cracking down on VPNs.
ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 292d
I only ever saw it as controlling the spread of the horrific and anti-human terrorist philosophy of “believing the mass internment and murder of Palestinians is not a good thing actually”
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
They're really upset we keep organising protests about things they don't want protests about.
Like climate or g-cide.
Much better to sabotage or intimidate them in the organisation phase.
Silly plebs should trust in Keir.
xxam925@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 292d
Nah I disagree. They don’t care about anything specific so long as the population of sheep is robust. They need to shear at their leisure.
They don’t actually care what the sheep do, who the sheep fuck or who fucks the sheep. They are just sheep. There isn’t a moral component at all. It’s a sham to get the sheep signed on.
Capitalists see themselves as a different species.
And yes I understand that I am a sheep.
jimmy90@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
god save the queen
chuck@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 292d
Oh I have some sad news for you buddy https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/queen-elizabeth-obituary-1.6575696
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 48 pts · 293d
Dicska@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
Nononono, you don't get it: looking at the past 4+ governments, I think they want to increase the birth rate of the right people.
I was so naïve back when had I thought the Labour would be any different from the Tories...
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 3 pts · 292d
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
If they wanted to increase the birthrate if already wealthy people they wouldn't remove the 2 child cap for benefits.
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 292d
So you want to remove half of the population, like Thanos?
Katana314@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 292d
I mean, Thanos’ plan may have been popular if he used the infinity stones to reward mothers for limiting their children, using societal pressure and other tools to limit populations for a generation.
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 11 pts · 292d
Would vote for Thanos
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 289d
He just had to convince males to not fuck with their cum active (e.g. doing vasectomy and reverse it as time comes). This would make hormones of women less fucked with, and male people would learn that it is not “she is just being woman”, but realise it was fucking hormone engineering.
🫣 but how should males learn that in a society where sexual education is shown as evil (like yea, we changed everything on this world and teach our children anything, but o noo please don’t tell them how reproduction works, so they just try something out and are fucked for live).
Same goes for drugs, if you just ban and say it is evil rather than why, you will always have bad experiences and shady cycles around drugs.
shiftymccool@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 292d
Whenever population control is mentioned, this inevitably comes up. No, not looking to "remove" anyone, just prevent more births than the natural environment can handle.
Paddzr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 8 pts · 292d
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 289d
Isn’t there a book with such a story that they investigate some dangerous bomb thingy that turns out to just make about half the population not able to have babies?
I think they made a movie which sucks out of it
I think it is the same writer as has written davinci code
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
2/3. gives you an extra generation before things are back where they were
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 5 pts · 292d
Or just limit1 baby per couple, same effect. Population halves every life cycle
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 292d
if memory serves, last time that was attempted it did not work.
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 292d
See China
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 1 pts · 292d
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 292d
The law had plot holes, just needs to be long sighted with human behavior in mind.
What's happening now is different story. Maybe it'll come full circle.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 292d
Carrot vs stick.
Just give incentives to voluntarily have less kids. Heck, even just education, high wages, and social mobility (particularly for women) typically drops the birth rate at or under 1 child anyway.
angrystego@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
Better ensure perfect women/men equality before doing that, otherwise it leads to a big gender disbalance and high infanticide rate for girls, as was demonstrated in China.
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 291d
Absolutely, that's a bigger fight altogether
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 293d
Literally hundreds of studies showing that if people can buy a house before they're 40, they will have more children.
You can't legislate your way into a higher birth rate. Even authoritarian countries have tried and failed. But you can legislate systemic changes that help people with housing, childcare, and groceries.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
In today’s standards, that is awfully a left leaning suggestion… some would would even say extreme leftist.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 2 pts · 292d
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 289d
And maybe acknowledge that having a child is fucking labour and not a treat that pays for itself
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 293d
Can't tell if that's Robotnik or Farva.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 293d
Brigadier General Robotnik, Farva (Mrs.)
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
We should all stop having kids and stop feeding their machine. Watch it all burn
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 6 pts · 292d
Or we could take a shortcut and just burn them down directly.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
That is also a viable option. I just don’t see that happening.
Paddzr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
So fuck the youn g generation even harder? You think what? The old which will continue to outnumber them, won't fuck over the younger generation because they can't outvote them?
If the "cycle" breaks, the young get turbo fucked. Either you somehow offload the old dependables or you meet the demand. No one in their right mind wants to cull the elderly.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
Noett suggesting we cull the elderly, but what's being in our right mind gonna do for us? The enemy is fucking insane, may as well fight fire with fire. Let's have a left that isn't passive yeah
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 293d
Your country doing that too?
hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 293d
When I first read this I was confused about whether OP meant Minecraft or Roblox,
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 293d
VoXXXels
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 293d
Not the way I misread "block" to replace the o with an a. "I see this as an absolute win"
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 292d