Same, but if they’re trained to look for the Voyager icon I could be in “trouble”
But for now, this is the last place I can say it:
I hope Trump is hanged for treason and violently shits himself to death out of fear and panic in the seconds before the noose snaps. And then a buncha hand-scrawled notes confessing his pedophelia, sexual assaults, rapes, and love for AOC’s feet fall from his pockets
I don't think I would be allowed in the US anyway. Given that my last 5 years of social media history is non-existent I suspect they would think I was being subversive.
You're starting to make China look progressive. What are you doing?
Isn't it linked to your name though? Like, you think your OPSEC is good enough for the Five Eyes not to know who is behind your Lemmy account? Kind of doubt it honestly...
Unclear to me, but I would assume sending poisoned data would be far more attractive than cancelling the agreement for either side. Until there are open hostilities at least.
I'm saying they are tracking everyone they can, which is just about... everyone. Even if you do the best you can with encryption everywhere, running your traffic through proxies, and whatnot, your communications are still likely to be saved until decryption algorithms/compute catches up. Nevermind metadata which is probably all that would be needed to identify the average Lemmy account.
Do border agents have access to that? Probably not directly, but I would presume any visa application to be routed through intelligence services. And while those may not have reported a missing social media account before, you know with that not being a requirement at all, they sure might under this administration.
Based on what we learned in the very short window when Twitter let people see location information about specific accounts, I think we can trace a lot of Trump's "grassroots" support back to Russia.
Russia has a much smaller economy, not even equivalent to California.
I think you give them too much credit, Trump even played a rich businessman on TV; he's an "ideal" Republican candidate (name recognition and for sale to highest bidder)
I don't consider reddit/lemmy as social media. The lack of 'necessity' of having your personal info plastered about and inserted into every exchange makes them something different. They're just a different form of forum, in my opinion, with nested comments instead of a long chain.
Yeah I never really got the whole "forums aren't social media" thing. Only difference I've ever seen is lacking a need for followers which I guess for a lot of people is enough.
I am a bit torn. I think social media has kinda moved from things like forums and chatrooms, to twitter/Instagram and so on.
Forums are a part of social media, but when asking about someones social media accounts or activity, you don't really go to what forums they are on, it's always ticktok or Facebook.
You could also say that comment sections under articles are social media as well, but that's not the typical association with the term.
The term 'social media' became popularized when 'online bulletin boards' started to really incentivize building a strong personal profile (with lots of social connections, likes et.c.). Even if a traditional forum is technically social media, it's not what we associate with the term and the psychology of using it is quite different.
You could also say that comment sections under articles are social media as well
I think that comes down to what the primary purpose of the site is. News media is mostly about disseminating information with their comment sections being a sad, withering afterthought where nothing of value ever happens.
I never considered reddit/lemmy social media myself. The anonymity of it just feels different. Just because im online doesnt mean its social media (to me.)
I can play video games online, and post in their group chats, but thats not social media either. I tend to draw the line around anonymity and topics. If were not talking about individuals, and their experiences, and interests, in the target to promote that person, i dont think its social media
I think you have a very optimistic view of the US if you think the people that don’t care if one group of non-white citizens are deported is suddenly going to be shocked and appalled when a different group of non-white citizens is on the chopping block.
I sincerely hope that it never comes to that, but thinking that your deportation is going to be the straw to break the camels back is a little arrogant.
I mean I've been avoiding going outside, that's my way to reduce risk.
It's because of this very political issue that I feel so anxious and even more depressed, which is why it's hard to make plans.
What am I supposed to do?
Its like nuclear war, shit can go down at anything. It's outside of my control.
Canada won't take me. EU won't take me
I hate PRC.
Moving isn't so simple, I don't have the advantage of being young when I learned English, I'd stuggle a lot. Moving take a lot of effort, something I'd struggle to do with depression.
I think you are overestimating the amount of things someone can actually do.
You realized during the Wong Kim Ark era, my people faced worse? They still have the guts to continue living. I mean... am I supposed to run every time there's a problem? It's not like there is anywhere to run to.
(cant think clearly right now, sorry if I'm rambling)
Since you deleted your comment, I can't really address exactly what you said and I'll have to sort of do it by memory of what tone you had, but don't be caught without a plan. Even if the plan is just running when you see ice approach, it's better than just being a deer in the headlights because you've blithely told yourself you won't be targeted.
I wish we would see the equivalent of the la riots where shopowners banded together with guns on top of their shops, but perhaps even consider what you can do if you see someone you're vaguely familiar with being taken by ice. The golden ideal would be a community driven communication of ice tracking, from the moment they leave their little compounds until they get to the rental car place and then their targeted areas, but things will have to get a lot worse before there's enough people to band together for that. You could start (I have four of us in my area) with just your friends and you tracing where they're going from news reports or social media in your area.
Honestly true. Especially with how angry these snowflakes get about the smallest things.
Did you truly life, if you didn't make at lease one passing reference to that "I have read some obituaries with great pleasure" quote about Trump? Don't think so.
Right!? Like I can guarantee you it isn’t worse than trumps himself… I would like to see the guidelines they are going to judge you on. Lmao, the president probably wouldn’t be able to enter.
Mine would get me barred, which is why I deleted voyager and metatext from my phone as I prepare to travel abroad. If they want to look at the facebook account I have not updated the past decade, then whatever.
I feel like if people like this person were in power, they would also start checking people's social media for wrongthink. I found over the years that the people who care about social media the most tend to be the most fragile and sensitive people you'll ever come across. Trump's check this box, but so do so many other people.
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runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone · 100 pts · 247d
US boarder agents - show me you Facebook
ME: I deleted it in 2016
BA: okay show me your insta
ME: I don't have insta
BA: wtf.jpg, okay Twitter?
ME: nope.
BA: visibly frustrated ... Reddit then?
ME: deleted that account when they fucked over 3rd party apps.
BA: writing refused to comply, rejected.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 247d
Same, but if they’re trained to look for the Voyager icon I could be in “trouble”
But for now, this is the last place I can say it:
I hope Trump is hanged for treason and violently shits himself to death out of fear and panic in the seconds before the noose snaps. And then a buncha hand-scrawled notes confessing his pedophelia, sexual assaults, rapes, and love for AOC’s feet fall from his pockets
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 247d
I think Signal has an option built it in to disguise the app as something else. Lemmy apps should start adding that function.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 247d
Voyager does have a face-id-to-unlock feature that enable. But yeah, a facade icon/name would be awesome as well
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 247d
They wouldn’t hesitate to hold it to your face to unlock it.
Passcode would be better, but I’m not sure the 5th amendment works at border crossings like it should.
Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 247d
From my understanding it does. The only thing is, that while they have to let citizens back in, they don't have to let their phone back in
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 247d
I think Android in general has a way of hiding certain apps.
I couldn't find the options so I just don't go to the US. Seems like the easier response.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
Why not travel with a burner phone?
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 246d
Because a lack of an account is likely suspect.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
Burner account.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 246d
I'm putting a lot of effort into visiting the United States here. I think I'm just not going to bother.
Lazylazycat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
You can do this in android if you use a launcher.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 247d
I hope he gets Ted Kaczynskis old cell.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
I wish I knew a Genie to make your wish come true.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 247d
The Monkey Paw says "nah, all good on this one, no downside"
runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 247d
same but interstellar for me.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 247d
Can't speak to a Border Agent if you stay away from that shithole country.
*taps forehead
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 247d
They want to make us all antifa terrorists if we’ve ever dissed capitalism or Christianity. Or christo-fascism presumably.
runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 247d
sadly I'm stuck in the center of the shithole (in a thankfully blue area).
echodot@feddit.uk · 43 pts · 247d
I don't think I would be allowed in the US anyway. Given that my last 5 years of social media history is non-existent I suspect they would think I was being subversive.
You're starting to make China look progressive. What are you doing?
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 247d
Ditto re social media. I bet not having social media will get you discriminated against for being old.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 246d
echodot@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 246d
It's not linked to my name though is it. So it's not really about me.
Muehe@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 246d
Isn't it linked to your name though? Like, you think your OPSEC is good enough for the Five Eyes not to know who is behind your Lemmy account? Kind of doubt it honestly...
Revan343@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 246d
Does the rest of Five Eyes still share shit with the US? They probably ought to stop that
Muehe@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 237d
Unclear to me, but I would assume sending poisoned data would be far more attractive than cancelling the agreement for either side. Until there are open hostilities at least.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 246d
You think the international intelligence community is tracking me do you. Also do you think the border agents have access to that stuff?
Muehe@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 237d
I'm saying they are tracking everyone they can, which is just about... everyone. Even if you do the best you can with encryption everywhere, running your traffic through proxies, and whatnot, your communications are still likely to be saved until decryption algorithms/compute catches up. Nevermind metadata which is probably all that would be needed to identify the average Lemmy account.
Do border agents have access to that? Probably not directly, but I would presume any visa application to be routed through intelligence services. And while those may not have reported a missing social media account before, you know with that not being a requirement at all, they sure might under this administration.
madjo@feddit.nl · 26 pts · 247d
Given that Trump's USA is no longer an ally to us in Europe, I'll never set foot in that country again.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 247d
It's not "Trump's USA", he's just one tiny, orange facet of the same beast, which is world-wide (with USA being the source).
NVIDIA, Apple, Amazon, Walmart, et al find Trump very useful as he is motivated by greed alone.
ysjet@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 247d
You're pretty naive if you think the US is the source, lol.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 247d
How so? USA is money central, the capital of the biggest economy since at least WW2.
I'm not saying the original source, I didn't mean to imply that. I think that would be the banks if I had to pick just one.
Who do you think is the source today or how far do you go back?
Ha! I guess.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 246d
Based on what we learned in the very short window when Twitter let people see location information about specific accounts, I think we can trace a lot of Trump's "grassroots" support back to Russia.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
Russia has a much smaller economy, not even equivalent to California.
I think you give them too much credit, Trump even played a rich businessman on TV; he's an "ideal" Republican candidate (name recognition and for sale to highest bidder)
ysjet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
Ahhh, you're talking about economically, not politically.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 247d
Is lemmy social media?
If not, i have no social media in the last 5 years except 1 post on facebook trying to rehome a dog.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 247d
I don't consider reddit/lemmy as social media. The lack of 'necessity' of having your personal info plastered about and inserted into every exchange makes them something different. They're just a different form of forum, in my opinion, with nested comments instead of a long chain.
tlmcleod@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 247d
Forums are a type of social media. It's a media platform where you can be social.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 247d
Yeah I never really got the whole "forums aren't social media" thing. Only difference I've ever seen is lacking a need for followers which I guess for a lot of people is enough.
OrgunDonor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
I am a bit torn. I think social media has kinda moved from things like forums and chatrooms, to twitter/Instagram and so on.
Forums are a part of social media, but when asking about someones social media accounts or activity, you don't really go to what forums they are on, it's always ticktok or Facebook.
You could also say that comment sections under articles are social media as well, but that's not the typical association with the term.
mirshafie@europe.pub · 3 pts · 246d
The term 'social media' became popularized when 'online bulletin boards' started to really incentivize building a strong personal profile (with lots of social connections, likes et.c.). Even if a traditional forum is technically social media, it's not what we associate with the term and the psychology of using it is quite different.
tlmcleod@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 246d
I think that comes down to what the primary purpose of the site is. News media is mostly about disseminating information with their comment sections being a sad, withering afterthought where nothing of value ever happens.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 247d
But you can also be anti social and just bark on lemmy. So it’s not 100% social media (at least I don’t consider it as such).
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 246d
I never considered reddit/lemmy social media myself. The anonymity of it just feels different. Just because im online doesnt mean its social media (to me.)
I can play video games online, and post in their group chats, but thats not social media either. I tend to draw the line around anonymity and topics. If were not talking about individuals, and their experiences, and interests, in the target to promote that person, i dont think its social media
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
ceenote@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 247d
It will really depend on if the customs person knows what Jerboa is.
gibmiser@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 247d
I wouldn't volunteer that information....
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 247d
madjo@feddit.nl · 16 pts · 247d
Considering how ICE ignores things like "Due Process", you won't even get the chance to prove that you're a citizen.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 247d
0ops@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 247d
Careful there, he might take you up on that
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 246d
echodot@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 247d
I was talking to a recruiter the other day and apparently it's almost impossible to recruit internationally for the US.
Kattiydid@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 247d
Out of curiosity, why would you get bigger press coverage? Zero judge, just curious.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 247d
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 247d
People also said that Roe v Wade would be a red line that'd lead to mass protest.
I wouldn't bet on it.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 247d
I mean, there were mass protests, they just didn't do shit.
KaChilde@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 247d
I think you have a very optimistic view of the US if you think the people that don’t care if one group of non-white citizens are deported is suddenly going to be shocked and appalled when a different group of non-white citizens is on the chopping block.
I sincerely hope that it never comes to that, but thinking that your deportation is going to be the straw to break the camels back is a little arrogant.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 247d
Considering the categories of people that have already been deported in the last year, I think you're not taking the threat seriously enough.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 246d
I mean I've been avoiding going outside, that's my way to reduce risk.
It's because of this very political issue that I feel so anxious and even more depressed, which is why it's hard to make plans.
What am I supposed to do?
Its like nuclear war, shit can go down at anything. It's outside of my control.
Canada won't take me. EU won't take me
I hate PRC.
Moving isn't so simple, I don't have the advantage of being young when I learned English, I'd stuggle a lot. Moving take a lot of effort, something I'd struggle to do with depression.
I think you are overestimating the amount of things someone can actually do.
You realized during the Wong Kim Ark era, my people faced worse? They still have the guts to continue living. I mean... am I supposed to run every time there's a problem? It's not like there is anywhere to run to.
(cant think clearly right now, sorry if I'm rambling)
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 246d
Since you deleted your comment, I can't really address exactly what you said and I'll have to sort of do it by memory of what tone you had, but don't be caught without a plan. Even if the plan is just running when you see ice approach, it's better than just being a deer in the headlights because you've blithely told yourself you won't be targeted.
I wish we would see the equivalent of the la riots where shopowners banded together with guns on top of their shops, but perhaps even consider what you can do if you see someone you're vaguely familiar with being taken by ice. The golden ideal would be a community driven communication of ice tracking, from the moment they leave their little compounds until they get to the rental car place and then their targeted areas, but things will have to get a lot worse before there's enough people to band together for that. You could start (I have four of us in my area) with just your friends and you tracing where they're going from news reports or social media in your area.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 246d
I've been vocally anti-american for nearly 10 years, but the real question is "why would I want to be friends with someone called 'Tindertranslator'?"
discocactus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
Good wingman?
bstix@feddit.dk · 14 pts · 247d
I wish Charlie Kirk was alive to see this. Only so he could be shot through the throat. Again.
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 246d
Honestly, if you spend that much time on social media, would i want to be friends with you?
Someone8765210932@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 246d
What has time to do with anything? You can spend one hour a month on social media and still make your disdain for Trump and MAGA clear.
teslasaur@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 246d
Oh, i see you decided to misinterpret me on purpose. I'll rephrase.
Why would i want to be friends with people that place such a value on social media?
InputZero@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 246d
Isn't Lemmy a type of social media? I know they meant the popular apps, but in my opinion Lemmy is still social media.
witten@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 246d
teslasaur@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 246d
Do you think i put any value in this? For my actual life?
ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee · 9 pts · 247d
I'm on her side
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 247d
It'd get me shot in certain parts of the USA.
howrar@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 247d
My genetics already has me barred.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 247d
Trump'sUSA. The USA is USA, fight backpopoto@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 246d
I can show them my social media stuff and give my DNA if Trump gives me the Espstein files without censorship.
Someone8765210932@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 247d
Honestly true. Especially with how angry these snowflakes get about the smallest things.
Did you truly life, if you didn't make at lease one passing reference to that "I have read some obituaries with great pleasure" quote about Trump? Don't think so.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 247d
Right!? Like I can guarantee you it isn’t worse than trumps himself… I would like to see the guidelines they are going to judge you on. Lmao, the president probably wouldn’t be able to enter.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 247d
They don't create consistent rules.
Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 247d
Mine would get me barred, which is why I deleted voyager and metatext from my phone as I prepare to travel abroad. If they want to look at the facebook account I have not updated the past decade, then whatever.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 247d
But I dont have any :(
ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 247d
Lemmy counts.
Edit: After a brief look at your history, you're fine.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 247d
How about like 12, or whenever he announced his campaign?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 247d
If I travelled to the US, my latest post would get me and three generations of my family sent to Aligator Alcatraz
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
I feel like if people like this person were in power, they would also start checking people's social media for wrongthink. I found over the years that the people who care about social media the most tend to be the most fragile and sensitive people you'll ever come across. Trump's check this box, but so do so many other people.