I thought it was weird they were implying femboys can't be straight, so I went to investigate. What they mean is that men who identify as heterosexual are finding themselves attracted to femboys and intentionally seeking pornography featuring them.
I think it's a bit of a double entendre, because it's also referencing this specific part of the report:
As the stock of “femboys” rose, the fate of porn featuring “straight” guy porn has fallen. Searches for “straight” on PornhubGay tumbled nine spots to 19th place, just above “cruising” and two spots below “cute femboy.” (Notably, “straight guys first time” is still in the 6th spot, though it was knocked out of the top five.)
So "straight" guys are "out" as a gay porn category and femboys are "in".
Iirc only about 10% on either end are fully gay or straight, with the other 80% having various shades of m-spec sexualities.
Then you add kink/shame/taboo to the mix.
And we also consider that many of these people are Pavlov training themselves to be aroused by their own pheromones in their goon caves in the absence of the complete sensory experience of sex.
So I don't think that's what the article was going for (see melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 's reply), but also yes.
I consider myself straight and for the most part normal for a 20-something guy.
So far, I've only ever dated women, however I certainly consider some femboys to be very cute and I wouldn't inherently be opposed to dating one. While I'm not attracted to penises, and I'm certainly not attracted to masculine men, some femboys are absolutely "feminine enough" that I do find them attractive.
I’m more confident than ever that bi/pan is secretly the most common sexuality.
In many ancient societies, being bi was the norm. Like it was actually considered close minded to be straight or gay.
Obviously this isn’t proof but I have it memorized so I’m gonna spout it off anyway, there’s a scene in doctor who where a lesbian companion gets hit on by a Roman centurion, he tells her “oh. Well I’m just normal. You know, guys and girls. But that’s okay [other centurion] is like that too.”
Ehh we didnt need no study for that. Think about how it always turns out that rich and powerfull people are bi or gay. Hell, the us president is one of them.
I think humanity just gets bored and wants what isn't immediately in front of us. We're bored of muscly men and tiny women so we want some tiny men and muscly women now. Makes sense to me.
Im mega drunk right now but I feel like at this point whatever you like is fine and great just e mjoy it how gives a fuck how does any of this make any sense? I hate these arbitrary thresholds fembois muscle mommies whatever love is love and enjoyment is enjoyment just be yourself I love all of you for who you are I wish all humanity was as open and encompassing as all of you
Alcohol disinhibits us, but I don't think it reveals our true selves. Our inhibitions are an important and truthful part of who we are. There's a real and important difference between someone who hits on women all the time and one who only ever tries it when he's had a glass or two.
I use the 'In Vino Veritas' phrase to remark on instances where a bit of disinhibition allows one to come to a correct conclusion by way of letting go of a bunch of bullshit performative social norms...
... but yes, the flip side is that excess and addiction can absolutely warp a person, not 'reveal' them, and that your baseline inhibitions, to some extent, fundamentally are you, are your characteristics, your personality.
And, people often say a lot of very objectively stupid bullshit when drunk as well.
But but... a person is also to a good extent... a process, an evolving system, not a fully static thing.
As to your example... a person who only hits on someone after a drink or two likely just has less self-confidence than a person who hits on other people often.
But that does not mean that our ... liquid courage needer... that they cannot gain self-confidence by other means, by maybe going to a bit of therapy and learning how to be reasonably proud of themselves, removing toxic, negging people from their life, engaging in self-affirming activities, reframing their view of themselves and their place or part in the world.
Possible explanation: you love complicated diets, not talking to your partner for hours most days of the week and you simply adore clothes shopping without anything fitting because women aren't allowed to have shoulders and lats.
I'm mentoring a femboy in our queer nonprofit, he came to our board retreat and got adorably flustered trying to explain to the group "why wouldn't you want to look like what you're attracted to?"
I've offered to build him a Linux box but he says "not yet."
Not that I disagree, or even have the data to see what's really going on here, but... okay, look. Men have a place in porn. That said, IMO, nothing kills the vibe faster than some dude with the build and charisma of a wet potato sack. Aesthetics reign supreme here and yeah, pretty guys are out there crushing it.
Okay so I've been thinking of being more feminine myself. I've started painting my nails and Im really feeling that direction. But I don't want to attract strait men (ew gross). How to be fem boy but attract female or other fem boy?
more women want to date me now because i present as a femboy. it's hilarious, but understandable. they feel safer around me generally and appreciate makeup/style choices and my higher attention on emotions which i learned through the queer community.
I mean, it's a pretty effective filter. Someone who paints their nails and wears women's clothes from time to time is at the very least unlikely to be some misogynistic asshole. I'm sure there are some exceptions, but as a general rule, it's a good simple filter.
My best advice is not to worry about it. Everyone likes femboys, so you just decline any invitations you receive from men in the same way you would decline unwanted advances from a woman/enby/etc. you find unattractive.
I was slightly confused by your comment until I realised that I think you mean that you find masc men gross or stereotypical straight men gross rather than all straight men.
(Particularly since you come across as a male person who prefers feminine people and you find "other femboy"s attractive.)
I think the opposite is tomboys and it's the older word that femboy is based on? But don't quote me on that until I've checked en etymylogicimist.
Edit: ok, can't find any sources to back this up, but tomboy is older and in a similar semantic space, so I'm still willing to claim that it was at least the inspiration for the shape of the word.
So this is why, republican leaders are struggling with the realization that they're attracted to femboys in their porn so they have to ban porn outright.
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stray@pawb.social · 142 pts · 257d
I thought it was weird they were implying femboys can't be straight, so I went to investigate. What they mean is that men who identify as heterosexual are finding themselves attracted to femboys and intentionally seeking pornography featuring them.
https://archive.ph/Ok7z0
I'm more confident than ever in my hypothesis that bi/pan is secretly the most common sexuality.
Atlusb@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 257d
So the headlines could read
" _stright_men are in femboys according to recent survey"
melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 257d
I think it's a bit of a double entendre, because it's also referencing this specific part of the report:
So "straight" guys are "out" as a gay porn category and femboys are "in".
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 257d
Oh no, so the gays are turning straighter??
/s
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 257d
Iirc only about 10% on either end are fully gay or straight, with the other 80% having various shades of m-spec sexualities.
Then you add kink/shame/taboo to the mix.
And we also consider that many of these people are Pavlov training themselves to be aroused by their own pheromones in their goon caves in the absence of the complete sensory experience of sex.
Clearwater@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 257d
So I don't think that's what the article was going for (see melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 's reply), but also yes.
I consider myself straight and for the most part normal for a 20-something guy.
So far, I've only ever dated women, however I certainly consider some femboys to be very cute and I wouldn't inherently be opposed to dating one. While I'm not attracted to penises, and I'm certainly not attracted to masculine men, some femboys are absolutely "feminine enough" that I do find them attractive.
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 257d
I was only replying to
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 257d
This is healthy.
Spaniard@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
Gynosexuality is the name for it.
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 257d
In many ancient societies, being bi was the norm. Like it was actually considered close minded to be straight or gay.
Obviously this isn’t proof but I have it memorized so I’m gonna spout it off anyway, there’s a scene in doctor who where a lesbian companion gets hit on by a Roman centurion, he tells her “oh. Well I’m just normal. You know, guys and girls. But that’s okay [other centurion] is like that too.”
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 256d
The romens has house husbands for a reason. Pretty men are pretty.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 257d
Ehh we didnt need no study for that. Think about how it always turns out that rich and powerfull people are bi or gay. Hell, the us president is one of them.
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 257d
A lot of people are mono under duress.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 257d
i've considered that being bi helps with forging political alliances ... so there's an evolutionary advantage to it.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 256d
"Anything is fuckable if you're brave enough."
Beebabe@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 257d
Meanwhile my taste In women: muscle mommies.
Please explain.
Xenny@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 257d
I think humanity just gets bored and wants what isn't immediately in front of us. We're bored of muscly men and tiny women so we want some tiny men and muscly women now. Makes sense to me.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 257d
There's a reason the calf used to be seen as one of the most attractive parts of a person. Women wore long dresses and Men wore long pants.
eyes@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 257d
Femboys can enjoy muscle mommies.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 257d
I personally feel like it's the perfect pairing, but I am heavily biased.
jh6AZStb@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 257d
Im mega drunk right now but I feel like at this point whatever you like is fine and great just e mjoy it how gives a fuck how does any of this make any sense? I hate these arbitrary thresholds fembois muscle mommies whatever love is love and enjoyment is enjoyment just be yourself I love all of you for who you are I wish all humanity was as open and encompassing as all of you
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 257d
Not mega drunk and can confirm what you said inshallah sibling 🙏 have a great night
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 257d
In Vino, Veritas.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 256d
Alcohol disinhibits us, but I don't think it reveals our true selves. Our inhibitions are an important and truthful part of who we are. There's a real and important difference between someone who hits on women all the time and one who only ever tries it when he's had a glass or two.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 256d
I use the 'In Vino Veritas' phrase to remark on instances where a bit of disinhibition allows one to come to a correct conclusion by way of letting go of a bunch of bullshit performative social norms...
... but yes, the flip side is that excess and addiction can absolutely warp a person, not 'reveal' them, and that your baseline inhibitions, to some extent, fundamentally are you, are your characteristics, your personality.
And, people often say a lot of very objectively stupid bullshit when drunk as well.
But but... a person is also to a good extent... a process, an evolving system, not a fully static thing.
As to your example... a person who only hits on someone after a drink or two likely just has less self-confidence than a person who hits on other people often.
But that does not mean that our ... liquid courage needer... that they cannot gain self-confidence by other means, by maybe going to a bit of therapy and learning how to be reasonably proud of themselves, removing toxic, negging people from their life, engaging in self-affirming activities, reframing their view of themselves and their place or part in the world.
baines@lemmy.cafe · 7 pts · 257d
republican states are banning pornhub
the demographic down bad enough in these states to bypass the bans have a type
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 257d
You mean the same demographic that is responsible for an explosion of Grindr activity at any and every major Republic public event?
Thats not like, a joke... its quite literally measurable data.
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 257d
You’re just avant-garde
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 256d
It's the usual bisexual dilemma: "Look how smoll he is! And look how tall she is!"
AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 257d
Muscle mommies are hot, what else is there to explain?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 257d
Possible explanation: you love complicated diets, not talking to your partner for hours most days of the week and you simply adore clothes shopping without anything fitting because women aren't allowed to have shoulders and lats.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 257d
mika_mika@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 257d
BanMe@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 257d
I'm mentoring a femboy in our queer nonprofit, he came to our board retreat and got adorably flustered trying to explain to the group "why wouldn't you want to look like what you're attracted to?"
I've offered to build him a Linux box but he says "not yet."
verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 257d
One of us. One of us…
Rooty@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 257d
I like how the Linux user sterotype went from "greasy neckbeard" to "femboy"
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 256d
Ngl it was more of a "graybeard" than "greasy neckbeards."
They now dodged the gamergate misogynists and started passing torch to catboys with anime pfps.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 257d
be the woman you want to see in the world
InevitableWaffles@midwest.social · 9 pts · 257d
Are you going to offer the kneehigh socks or let them pick when you bring the Linux box over? 🤣
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 256d
LGBTQNarcissism
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 257d
I mean pan/bi people also kind of don't care either
AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 257d
what
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 257d
I didn't know humans like you could laugh.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
It’s a built in feature for humans.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 257d
Must be a factory option then because theirs didn’t get installed.
Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 257d
Fuckin finally
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 257d
it was always inevitable xD
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 30 pts · 257d
Yes, femboys are in... my bed.
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 257d
where do you say i am? D:
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 27 pts · 257d
So the person in that photo got an OnlyFans or?..
JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org · 17 pts · 257d
Nonono I'm pretty sure that's the article author, Matthew Rodriguez. /s
but maybe.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 256d
Not that I disagree, or even have the data to see what's really going on here, but... okay, look. Men have a place in porn. That said, IMO, nothing kills the vibe faster than some dude with the build and charisma of a wet potato sack. Aesthetics reign supreme here and yeah, pretty guys are out there crushing it.
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 255d
Right? It's always some bellied middle aged man with a chode for some reason.
Una@europe.pub · 22 pts · 257d
HELL YEAH :3
alottachairs@beehaw.org · 20 pts · 257d
Okay so I've been thinking of being more feminine myself. I've started painting my nails and Im really feeling that direction. But I don't want to attract strait men (ew gross). How to be fem boy but attract female or other fem boy?
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 257d
This may shock you, but women are into femboys.
IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 257d
can confirm
deviantfemboi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 257d
more women want to date me now because i present as a femboy. it's hilarious, but understandable. they feel safer around me generally and appreciate makeup/style choices and my higher attention on emotions which i learned through the queer community.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 256d
I mean, it's a pretty effective filter. Someone who paints their nails and wears women's clothes from time to time is at the very least unlikely to be some misogynistic asshole. I'm sure there are some exceptions, but as a general rule, it's a good simple filter.
scoobford@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 256d
My best advice is not to worry about it. Everyone likes femboys, so you just decline any invitations you receive from men in the same way you would decline unwanted advances from a woman/enby/etc. you find unattractive.
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 257d
I wouldn't not dress/style yourself more feminine because you don't want to attract straight men.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 256d
I'm too tired to unpick all these negatives right now.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 256d
I was slightly confused by your comment until I realised that I think you mean that you find masc men gross or stereotypical straight men gross rather than all straight men.
(Particularly since you come across as a male person who prefers feminine people and you find "other femboy"s attractive.)
jaschen306@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 257d
Why isn't the opposite called Mengirls?
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 15 pts · 257d
Mascgirls?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 256d
Butches
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 2 pts · 256d
Butches love me cause they know that I can rock!
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 255d
Ok now I'm curious, what's the diff between a tomboy, butch, demigirl, and muscle mommy?
Hoimo@ani.social · 13 pts · 257d
I think the opposite is tomboys and it's the older word that femboy is based on? But don't quote me on that until I've checked en etymylogicimist.
Edit: ok, can't find any sources to back this up, but tomboy is older and in a similar semantic space, so I'm still willing to claim that it was at least the inspiration for the shape of the word.
scoobford@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 256d
If femboy is feminine boy, then it should be masc girl. Which lesbians call them mascs a lot so...I guess they are?
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 256d
So a tomboy?
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
Call it whatever you want!
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
Hmmm "submissive what ever you want" does have a nice ring to it.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 256d
If that’s what you wanna fuck, I am happy for you.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 256d
The word your looking for is tomboy...
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 256d
Nature is healing.
HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 257d
I know I love my femboy 💜💜💜
Wren@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 257d
My kingdom for a dominant femboy. I need a body that can rock booty shorts and pigtails, with the personality of Magneto.
Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 257d
As a dominant transfem: send the subby ones to me >:]
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 257d
twintails are the wintails
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 257d
So human types are just like seasonal paint colours? Who will be in style next? One thing is for sure...they'll all be wearing Blundstone boots.
paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 256d
hunnypaint on the cover :D
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 257d
fuck yeah
trslim@pawb.social · 5 pts · 256d
FUCKING BASED MY PEOPLE ARE SO IN
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 257d
They banned porn in good ol’ straight republican states.
/s
Bongles@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 257d
So this is why, republican leaders are struggling with the realization that they're attracted to femboys in their porn so they have to ban porn outright.
/s? Maybe?
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 256d
Makes sense, straight viewers would probably rather watch a twink screw milfs and babysitters than a fat hairy guy.